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rts551
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well said XPBR. screwed by the Heros and screwed by the villains. Don't think I would want to business with any of them after this.
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Cypress
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XPBRes, You paid Munoz. Heck, for all the good it was worth you could have sent the check to me. I'll accept all payments for any property anywhere
and you you'll get a receipt.
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captkw
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cpress
I'm in line too !! K&T
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Burbs
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| Quote: | Originally posted by XPBRes
I wish it was that easy to understand. We had a 30 year lease with Mike & Olivia, who had a lease with the Ejido. Mike leaves and Olivia claims
ignorance. She finds out that they have not met their obligations with the Ejido and then tries to extort more money from the renters. While in
negotiations with Olivia, about a new lease, Munoz shows up with info and docs to say he is the private property owner. We paid our rent and were
current. Yes we stopped paying Olivia and started paying Munoz.
So do we blame Mike for not paying the Ejido? Do we blame Olivia for not knowing what Mike was doing and her trying to make us pay for their mistakes?
Do we blame Munoz for misleading us to not pay Olivia and to pay him? Do we hold Munoz responsible for losing our court cases with Agrarian Court,
that he promised he would represent us and win.
There is so much more I could share but my feeling is that so many of you have made your minds up. Blame is easy, facts help but can be manipulated,
but the truth is hard to find.
We have been waiting 10 years to know the truth. I think we may never know the TRUTH and the experience has been long and hard. As far as I can see
that beach is not a BEACH of GOOD VENTURE.
[Edited on 3-23-2012 by XPBRes] |
Ted..you should have stayed and fought like we did. Like a man...like an American should. You bailed, and I'm left here. You're belly aching like a
seven year old or like Munoz(offense intended). IF you want you're house back come back here and live in it. At least six months a year. I live here
year around. I promise no hard feelings if you do. Cut the poor me routine and slandering us, please. I'm an American and Mexican citizen. Don't
really care about your old house and never wanted it. We had to fight the Con man Munoz, and now that we win, you want to complain. Munoz caused this
mess with you and the others. Your house is half finished or completed. If you want it come and occupy...do it now. Ted you never did anything except
stand on the sidelines...now do something or S. T. F. U.
-I should'nt be the only one to have to listen to the Jake Brakes!
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XPBRes
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Mark
how is sharing facts as we know them acting like a child? Why would we be that naive to start all over again with nothing resolved. You say come
back, Cheryle would love too, me not so much. You say no hard feelings, why would there be any we did nothing to you or Olivia? You say slander, you
are starting to sound like Munoz!
Complaints: you stayed, my belly aching, jake brakes, we left you there all alone and you have to live there all year.
WOW who is sounding like a child!
I posted on this board to convey OUR point of view, like a true American can.
If you don't like OUR truth get off this board or prove that you are really the "WINNERS".
Do you really think I believe you have the rights to anything, you may have sued us and won in a court, so what. Still don't see any proof that this
is over.
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norte
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WOW. and this is the person you all are sticking up for.A real Nomad hero. Stick it to em Burbs. and then play the poor me card. No thanks. this is
why I stay away from Baja real estate
| Quote: | Originally posted by Burbs
| Quote: | Originally posted by XPBRes
I wish it was that easy to understand. We had a 30 year lease with Mike & Olivia, who had a lease with the Ejido. Mike leaves and Olivia claims
ignorance. She finds out that they have not met their obligations with the Ejido and then tries to extort more money from the renters. While in
negotiations with Olivia, about a new lease, Munoz shows up with info and docs to say he is the private property owner. We paid our rent and were
current. Yes we stopped paying Olivia and started paying Munoz.
So do we blame Mike for not paying the Ejido? Do we blame Olivia for not knowing what Mike was doing and her trying to make us pay for their mistakes?
Do we blame Munoz for misleading us to not pay Olivia and to pay him? Do we hold Munoz responsible for losing our court cases with Agrarian Court,
that he promised he would represent us and win.
There is so much more I could share but my feeling is that so many of you have made your minds up. Blame is easy, facts help but can be manipulated,
but the truth is hard to find.
We have been waiting 10 years to know the truth. I think we may never know the TRUTH and the experience has been long and hard. As far as I can see
that beach is not a BEACH of GOOD VENTURE.
[Edited on 3-23-2012 by XPBRes] |
Ted..you should have stayed and fought like we did. Like a man...like an American should. You bailed, and I'm left here. You're belly aching like a
seven year old or like Munoz(offense intended). IF you want you're house back come back here and live in it. At least six months a year. I live here
year around. I promise no hard feelings if you do. Cut the poor me routine and slandering us, please. I'm an American and Mexican citizen. Don't
really care about your old house and never wanted it. We had to fight the Con man Munoz, and now that we win, you want to complain. Munoz caused this
mess with you and the others. Your house is half finished or completed. If you want it come and occupy...do it now. Ted you never did anything except
stand on the sidelines...now do something or S. T. F. U.
-I should'nt be the only one to have to listen to the Jake Brakes! |
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
| Quote: | | Originally posted by Woooosh There is no right or wrong in Mexico jmho |
 Do you really believe that? |
I didn't until I moved here to Mexico eight years ago. It doesn't smack you in the face all at once, it creeps up on you as you understand what is
really happening around you as the locals do. Right and wrong things def happen here, but many people (not all) don't judge them in black or white-
fuzzy gray at best. It doesn't bother me, it's just an observation. It's OK to cheat to get ahead and get caught, so long as you live to fight
another day. No blood, no foul. Just a cultural, not racist- observation.
No shame either
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Cypress
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OK!
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ramuma53
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This is the official letter sent by the Agrarian Magistrate to the Federal Judge, telling him that he has no legal cause against me and that he has no
intention to take my property from me.
As you see, what Olivia say is a lie.
[Edited on 3-24-2012 by ramuma53]
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ramuma53
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Now, do you want to know who is Mark Jerome Burbey?????
You want to know if Olivia know who is the owner????
do you want to know who is the owner????
[Edited on 3-24-2012 by ramuma53]
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ramuma53
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Who is the owner?
Just look at the very public signs
[Edited on 3-26-2012 by ramuma53]
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ramuma53
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Do you want to know if my title is public knowledge????
[Edited on 3-24-2012 by ramuma53]
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ramuma53
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Olivia and Nark Advocates
May any of you please ask Olivia and Nark if they have anything like these documents
[Edited on 3-24-2012 by ramuma53]
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ramuma53
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Who want to know if Olivia is convicted criminal???
 who are
you supporting??????
[Edited on 3-24-2012 by ramuma53]
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ramuma53
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Now, you really want to know who you advocates are supporting????
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ramuma53
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Now, do you want to know who I am????
Working for Baja Estate Congress
Here the Mexican Army say that I am a certified honest person and ask authority to help me without questions in my official and confidential tasks.
A Baja Senate candidtae, 2000 National Elections
As ABC Baja Estate Nespaper director
[Edited on 3-24-2012 by ramuma53]
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Based on the general locating latitude and longitude Fulano figured out regarding Rafael’s
property title Number 432949 at N26° 39', W111° 50' it is a property at Playa Buenaventura and not in the Mexico State of Veracruz as alleged.
Per Fulano, “The property description further describes the property as being in the Municipality of Mulegé bounded by the ocean to the North, the
ejido La Purisima to the South and East, and a property named El Frijol to the West. This also clearly describes San Buenaventura.”
Copy and paste the coordinates into Google earth and see where it takes you. I am in Rafael’s corner regarding his documents.
Can anyone dispute these facts with other documents? Put them out here for evaluation. It appears that Rafael posted his because he does not fear they
will be debunked. Can anyone debunk what he has posted?
THIS IS THE DOCUMENT
[Edited on 3-24-2012 by ELINVESTIG8R]
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ELINVESTIG8R
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CYPRESS YOU ARE OFFICIALLY
TASERED...AGAIN!
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Cypress
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ouch!
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ELINVESTIG8R
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Fulano also posted this regarding the below document: Rafael Muñoz posted copies of a lot of documents on BN tonight to prove that he was the owner of
the San Buenaventura property.
This page is probably the most important. It is a letter from a judge in the Agrarian Court to a judge in a Federal Court. The letter is dated April
21, 2010 and the Agrarian Court judge is telling the Federal Court judge that he should dismiss Olivia's case for possession of the home owned by Ted
and Cheryle Clinite because she does not have any legal interest in it.
The relevant part in Spanish is: Ahora bien, de la revision a los autos del juicio agrario del cual emana el acto reclamado, puede observarse que los
terrenos del amparista, no se encuentran incluidos en el ejido La Purisima, puesto que dicho predio cuenta con titulo de propiedad amparado con el
numero 432949expedido por la Secretaria de la Reforma Agraria.
However, upon review of the trial transcript of the Agrarian Court, one can observe that the lands claimed by the amparista (Olivia), are not a part
of ejido La Purisima, since this property has a separate property title identified by number 432949, issued by the Secretary of Agrarian Reform.
[Edited on 3-24-2012 by ELINVESTIG8R]
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