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arrowhead
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| Quote: | Originally posted by airmech
Fly to Guerrero Negro and Shari will pick you up there. |
What would be the point of that? GN is a good 3-hour drive to Asuncion. When you add in the extra time to stop and clear customs and immigration, file
flight plans, etc. might as well just drive all the way from the border.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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capt. mike
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i think non desired AC types would be fine at Asuncion. the cartels are pretty clear on what they target.
that being said....the Navy Grumman ejection seat i just found on ebay will be going in my bird soon. now - if i can just re program the switch to
remote trigger.....
insurance will cover the wreck....i don't care about the driver.... 
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
\"Remember there is a big difference between kneeling down and bending over....\"
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Skeet/Loreto
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Wessongroup: Google up "Aircraft Stolen Mexico". There is a running accont of most of the Thefts.
Show two just recently that had Prop and Thottle Locks.
Wonder if a remote Switch to the Ignition Switch and Mag, would do any good??
Something will happen, These guys know enogh that they will bring along a Cutting Torch.
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fishbuck
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capt. mike
i think non desired AC types would be fine at Asuncion. the cartels are pretty clear on what they target.
that being said....the Navy Grumman ejection seat i just found on ebay will be going in my bird soon. now - if i can just re program the switch to
remote trigger.....
insurance will cover the wreck....i don't care about the driver.... |
Yeah Mike, the best thing to do is take a real piece of junk plane like a Camanche. No one likes those .
Hey Skeet, you're right. I'll bet Bob Hoover could pull off your little tail dragger trick. Maybe Chuck Yeager also.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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fishbuck
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"Fishbuck. Do you mind telling us how much Taildragger time you have!!" Skeeter
Well Skeet, I guess I have about 2 hours or so. My Dad took me flying in a J3 Cub once. That thing was fun!
And my Dad had a Stinson 4 seater. I flew it once. Hated it. But I guess I could have learned to fly it well enough if I needed to.
My dad was a company pilot for an outfit that had a DC-3. I flew that a few times. I was only about 7-8 years old. Does that count.
My best story is my dad's trip down to Las Cruces in 1959 in a B-18 TWIN BEECH. It was like his first pilot job. I was born shortly after.
Later on he moved on to Lears, Jet Commanders, Hawkers etc.
He told me he quit logging time at around 25,000 hours.
I wouldn't mind trying a nice taildragger.
If I could find one.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by airmech
"From the victims mouth"
I copied this from the BBP site so the Nomads would have the real story.
"I flew my 210 down to Bahia Asuncion last Wednesday. I checked on the plane Saturday afternoon. I arrived at the airport on Sunday morning for
departure and the plane was gone. I had a solid prop lock on the plane and I pulled two spark plug wires. Gas jugs were found near the beginning of
the runway. We think the people who stole the plane came with gas jugs, added another 20 gallons of fuel. Cut the prop lock with a torch because the
hardened steal simply could not be cut with a hack saw and too thick for a bolt cutter. They must have diagnosed the pulled spark plug wires and took
the plane. My bet is that someone who lives in town tipped off the bad guys and it took 3 days to get a pilot over there to take the plane. I avoided
buzzing the town because I didnt want anyone to know I was there, but the whole town seemed to know within a day or two. The police new I was there
because they went out and took picures of my plane Thursday morning. They could have tipped off the bad guys too. No way to know for sure. Bahia
Asunsion otherwise is a great destination. Great people. Shari and Juan were awesome and probably the biggest losers in this. Fly to Guerrero Negro
and Shari will pick you up there. Do not fly to this airport and leave your plane overnight, ever." KREW
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Thank you for posting this----so very sad for the owners and sad for the entire town. I guess no place is immune from this problem. 
Even though the airstrip cannot be seen from the town or from the roads, it is not surprising that everyone knew there was a plane in town.
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Bajaboy
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Hey Bucky-
That Skeeter is smarter then them old seeintists up at UCSD/Scripps...sew em gessin thet he mite now what he's talkin bout. After all, he's seen a
seegull or too fly on the cortez.....
ar u still comin' down?
| Quote: | Originally posted by fishbuck
"Fishbuck. Do you mind telling us how much Taildragger time you have!!" Skeeter
Well Skeet, I guess I have about 2 hours or so. My Dad took me flying in a J3 Cub once. That thing was fun!
And my Dad had a Stinson 4 seater. I flew it once. Hated it. But I guess I could have learned to fly it well enough if I needed to.
My dad was a company pilot for an outfit that had a DC-3. I flew that a few times. I was only about 7-8 years old. Does that count.
My best story is my dad's trip down to Las Cruces in 1959 in a B-18 TWIN BEECH. It was like his first pilot job. I was born shortly after.
Later on he moved on to Lears, Jet Commanders, Hawkers etc.
He told me he quit logging time at around 25,000 hours.
I wouldn't mind trying a nice taildragger.
If I could find one. |
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Skeet/Loreto
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Now Baja boy: I did not say I was smarter only that I had more experience on top and down below in the Sea of Cortez for 38 years.
You show me a Xcientist from Scripps that has spent any time or just a little time studying the Sea of CorteZ.
Fishbuck. You should really get some Tail dragger time. See if you can get some with an ole Air Knocker to take you up{Aeronca 7 AC} it not that a Pa
18 Supper Cub. You can actually make it walk on its Tail!!
Good Luck
Long Live Cowboys and Cowgirls
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Bajaboy
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Hey Skeet-
Giving you a bad time. By the way, the Chargers had their way with the Cowboys...ouch!
| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
Now Baja boy: I did not say I was smarter only that I had more experience on top and down below in the Sea of Cortez for 38 years.
You show me a Xcientist from Scripps that has spent any time or just a little time studying the Sea of CorteZ.
Fishbuck. You should really get some Tail dragger time. See if you can get some with an ole Air Knocker to take you up{Aeronca 7 AC} it not that a Pa
18 Supper Cub. You can actually make it walk on its Tail!!
Good Luck
Long Live Cowboys and Cowgirls |
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
You show me a Xcientist from Scripps that has spent any time or just a little time studying the Sea of CorteZ.
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You ole tail dragger, that was easy:
http://explorations.ucsd.edu/Features/2009/Birth_of_an_Ocean...
http://explorations.ucsd.edu/Features/2009/Birth_of_an_Ocean...
I like the cowgirls 
[Edited on 12-23-2009 by k-rico]
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Skeet/Loreto
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K=rico"
No you Don't! That is about the Geological not the SEA!! Not the Fish, Not the Birds.
Ask them smart Suckers about the Bird Life and what is its connection to the Fish. That one is easy.
Why to the Squid Beach themselves and Die on the Beaches??
Why to the Squid return on generally a 3 year basis.
Why did the Sierra come back to Mulege after they were netted out 25 years ago??
The Scientist do some study work but it is gennerally things to support their OWN Ideas.Many times they do not see but One particular.
Anyway K-Rico I have to admit that sometimes they do a good Job, just sometimes.!
Skeet
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ELINVESTIG8R
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k-rico
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skeeterdeeter
have you heard of google.com ??
http://scrippsnews.ucsd.edu/Releases/?releaseID=624
Long live the Cowgirls, you can keep the boyz.
[Edited on 12-23-2009 by k-rico]
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David K
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You can't blame Skeet for being skeptical of (some) scientists and their reports... Look at the lies and altered/ destroyed data by those U.N. and
other scientists about 'global warming', all to keep funds coming their way, from the hysteria over an obvious (to most) false claim. Governments who
want more control and money from its citizens are using that lie, still... Other world leaders are a bit more honest and have rejected the trend of
some.
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DianaT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
You can't blame Skeet for being skeptical of (some) scientists and their reports... Look at the lies and altered/ destroyed data by those U.N. and
other scientists about 'global warming', all to keep funds coming their way, from the hysteria over an obvious (to most) false claim. Governments who
want more control and money from its citizens are using that lie, still... Other world leaders are a bit more honest and have rejected the trend of
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Guess it is time for another thread to dive into this stupid over and over argument between those who do believe in science and those who believe in
right-wing conspiracy theories.
This is about a stolen airplane, about the damage to a small town that has been out of the mainstream of these problems, it is about what can or
cannot happen to help this situation, but no---------------away we go.
Now DK, tell us all about how you didn't start it, how it is your job to teach us all about everything and correct everyone else if they are wrong, or
at least wrong in your opinion, how all nomads should love each other, how at least you love everyone and want to play nice and don't poke people with
a stick every chance you get  how you have been in Baja and watched the ocean so you know the "TRUTH"--- go for it.
Or, why doesn't everyone get back to what this thread is about and try your hand in the off-topic sewer where it belongs.
The discussion about flying was interesting, even with the disagreement.
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wessongroup
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Ditto's, but fun... hey skeets.. how the shrimp guys doing of the Texas coast
It's all a part of the contest between transient humankind and the eternal forces of the cosmos.
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Skeet/Loreto
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Good Post Diana except when you mentioned the "Vast Right Wing!!
You Lefties are not to swift!
I will admit that we should get back to the original .
There must be something that Pilots can do to stop these Thefts!
Still think and Electronic device that only allows the Ingition system to work when the Pilot wants it to work will be developed.
We should not let "Fear" control what we do in Life.
I sure do not fear a bunch of Leftie Scientist drinking Booze, smoking DOPE, running around Nekid on the Sea of Cortez doing a Scientfic Study!!!
They are like the Rooster ==
I am so confused that I dont know which way to Point my Pecker!!!
Long Live Cowboys
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k-rico
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Skeet, It still points? 
Eventhough it's a big loss to the aircraft owner and a true bummer for the honest folks of Asuncion, there are interesting things about the event.
Most are focused upon securing the aircraft, some, like me are wondering how the cartel guys knew the plane was there. I'd bet some resident of
Asuncion, Abreojos, or GN is in cahoots with a cartel. Others say it might be some employee of the gov organizations cognizant of the flight plan.
I think bribing a local is probably a lot easier, and safer, than bribing a gov employee.
Maybe thinking clouded by hope though.
I'm also wondering which cartel, seeing that I'm interested in the details of this war surrounding me in Tijuana. Either the Sinaloa cartel or the AFO
I would guess.
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Skeet/Loreto
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rico
I lean toward the information concerning the location of where the plane may be for a couple of Days.
If it was a local, then he has to make a contact, then the group has to arrive with the Torch.
I know that years past the planes stolen were then used to take a load across{under radar at that time]. Several times the planes where recoved back
in the states, no damage.
Also there is a group of Pilots that operate out of the Hills East of Cuilacuan.
They took several aircraft and repainted, renumbered, re registered in Mexico. These are used to transport some of the High Mucky t Muks around the
Country.
There is still a number of planes in the "Boneyard" at Hermisillo.
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shari
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when the hospital plane got stolen...it was jacked right after it landed so the banditos knew about this in advance and were there waiting in the
wings...(pun intended) It was kinda strange that this one had been here 3 days already....hmmm...sure stinks though when ya start wondering about
locals here....suspecting people you may know....ewwww.
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