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Bajahowodd
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Never Heard of Japan, Inc.?
"Afterall, the Japanese government is NOT sooo stupid as to give Toyota taxpayer's money or even take over the company!"
 
Give me a break. Back in the eighties that was what it was all about. They were buying up the world because they had government backing.
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Oso
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Well, my 2004 Taco is not on the recall list (yet). I've been over THAT road a few times and so far the only trouble I've had was the driver's seat
coming loose. But in all fairness, the former owner (Max) was not exactly a featherweight. I've been happy with it but I only have 45k on it. Now
I'm concerned about electronic throttle control. Anybody know if this model has it?
I miss my '53 Willys.
All my childhood I wanted to be older. Now I\'m older and this chitn sucks.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
"Afterall, the Japanese government is NOT sooo stupid as to give Toyota taxpayer's money or even take over the company!"
Give me a break. Back in the eighties that was what it was all about. They were buying up the world because they had government backing.
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??????????????? Please explain that one--------"Government backing"?????????? and I always thought that the Japanese were "buying up the world"
because their companies had successful business models and were making money hand over fist. Stupid me.
Barry
Barry
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MrBillM
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Passing the Buck ?
I heard this afternoon on the news that the Gal who tearfully testified before Congress about thinking she was going to die and contemplated ramming
the Guardrail to keep anyone else from dying, sold off her Toyota to some other unsuspecting buyer who has since driven 27K with no problem.
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Haven't seen any further confirmation.
Sounds like a great story, but True ?
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Bajahowodd
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
"Afterall, the Japanese government is NOT sooo stupid as to give Toyota taxpayer's money or even take over the company!"
Give me a break. Back in the eighties that was what it was all about. They were buying up the world because they had government backing.
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??????????????? Please explain that one--------"Government backing"?????????? and I always thought that the Japanese were "buying up the world"
because their companies had successful business models and were making money hand over fist. Stupid me.
Barry
Barry |
Barry- Back in the day, one and the same. Hence, Japan, Inc.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
"Afterall, the Japanese government is NOT sooo stupid as to give Toyota taxpayer's money or even take over the company!"
Give me a break. Back in the eighties that was what it was all about. They were buying up the world because they had government backing.
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??????????????? Please explain that one--------"Government backing"?????????? and I always thought that the Japanese were "buying up the world"
because their companies had successful business models and were making money hand over fist. Stupid me.
Barry
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Barry- Back in the day, one and the same. Hence, Japan, Inc. |
China is next, along with India. It is just the way it is---------change!!
Make the proper investments and you can share the prosperity!!!
Barry
(edited to correct a spelling error, one that I noticed, anyway)
[Edited on 2-25-2010 by Barry A.]
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
I heard this afternoon on the news that the Gal who tearfully testified before Congress about thinking she was going to die and contemplated ramming
the Guardrail to keep anyone else from dying, sold off her Toyota to some other unsuspecting buyer who has since driven 27K with no problem.
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Haven't seen any further confirmation.
Sounds like a great story, but True ? |
From what I've been reading it could very well be true that a car that had SUA once has been fine since. The incidents that can't be explained by
floor mats or stuck pedals seem to be due to some intermittant problem with the electronic control system that results in the throttle opening up. The
fix that Toyota is putting into place is to add a system that closes the throttle to idle when the brake is applied is a logical one, and one that
already has implemented by other automakers.
The question I have is why was it left out in the first place? If you do some digging you'll find out that the Audi 5000 was the first car to
encounter these problems back in to 80s. Audi tested and tested their system and could not reproduce the problem in a test environment. But they knew
it happened in the real world. They then added the brake override fail safe system.
And, if all this help the US automakers sell cars, GREAT!!
[Edited on 2-25-2010 by k-rico]
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805gregg
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Toyoda expressed remorse at the death of Toyota drivers, shouldn't he be charged with manslaughter? He finally figured out a way to kill Americans
without repercussions. Their cars and trucks have already been down graded in the rating companies, in a down economy they will have give away their
crap to get rid if them.
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k-rico
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| Quote: | Originally posted by 805gregg
Toyoda expressed remorse at the death of Toyota drivers, shouldn't he be charged with manslaughter? He finally figured out a way to kill Americans
without repercussions. Their cars and trucks have already been down graded in the rating companies, in a down economy they will have give away their
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Along those lines, some lawyers are saying if you drive a recalled Toyota and it malfunctions resulting in injury/death of others you could be open to
criminal charges. Sounds far-fetched, but........
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Bajaboy
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DK-
You are wrong on so many points but I will highlight the most important one....the throttle got stuck and the CEO of Toyota acknowledged it today on
Capitol Hill:
http://www.cbs8.com/global/story.asp?s=12040266
I really am at a loss as to why you are so dismissive of the events at hand. Obviously some commentator went off on a rant about the Obama
administration, Toyota, and some sort of conspiracy.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
One of my students lost 4 family members.
I'm not sure why you are so convinced this is not for real? For some reason, I'm guessing Fox news poisoned your thinking, once again.
Zac
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Sorry about your student, was that the Lexus with two floor mats that hung up the gas pedal, in Santee?
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[Edited on 2-27-2010 by BajaNomad]
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bajaguy
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Can't wait
To buy my 2011 Tundra with a re-engineered system and possibly a lower price!!!!!!
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Bajaboy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
To buy my 2011 Tundra with a re-engineered system and possibly a lower price!!!!!! |
Yes, my thoughts exactly. I have full confidence that Toyota will come back even stronger but will have to discount in order to get people to open
their wallets. I'll be in the market in the next year or two and am keeping my fingers crossed.
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Barry A.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
DK-
You are wrong on so many points but I will highlight the most important one....the throttle got stuck and the CEO of Toyota acknowledged it today on
Capitol Hill:
http://www.cbs8.com/global/story.asp?s=12040266
I really am at a loss as to why you are so dismissive of the events at hand. Obviously some commentator went off on a rant about the Obama
administration, Toyota, and some sort of conspiracy.
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
One of my students lost 4 family members.
I'm not sure why you are so convinced this is not for real? For some reason, I'm guessing Fox news poisoned your thinking, once again.
Zac
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Sorry about your student, was that the Lexus with two floor mats that hung up the gas pedal, in Santee?
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Huh????? No way the Toy CEO admitted anything in that link you imbedded here----------what a strange interpretation of what is written????
This gives me some insight into where you are coming from, tho.
Barry
[Edited on 2-27-2010 by BajaNomad]
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Bajaboy
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I should have included that I also listened to his testimony. While he didn't acknowledge it word for word, a reasonable person would probably come
to the same conclusion as I did. I can say one thing for certain, he did not blame a floor mat.
And just for clarification, where am I coming from?
| Quote: | Originally posted by Barry A.
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
DK-
You are wrong on so many points but I will highlight the most important one....the throttle got stuck and the CEO of Toyota acknowledged it today on
Capitol Hill:
http://www.cbs8.com/global/story.asp?s=12040266
I really am at a loss as to why you are so dismissive of the events at hand. Obviously some commentator went off on a rant about the Obama
administration, Toyota, and some sort of conspiracy.
| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajaboy
One of my students lost 4 family members.
I'm not sure why you are so convinced this is not for real? For some reason, I'm guessing Fox news poisoned your thinking, once again.
Zac
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Sorry about your student, was that the Lexus with two floor mats that hung up the gas pedal, in Santee?
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Huh????? No way the Toy CEO admitted anything in that link you imbedded here----------what a strange interpretation of what is written????
This gives me some insight into where you are coming from, tho.
Barry |
[Edited on 2-27-2010 by BajaNomad]
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gnukid
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I understand that the Toyota CEO did accept fault for actions which led to the problems. This news is well reported in the USA and Nationally, Barry.
... the Toyota president admitted "priorities became confused" at the Japanese company as a result of its expansion. "We pursued growth over the speed
at which we were able to develop our people and our organisation, and we should sincerely be mindful of that," he said.
Toyota USA President Looks Lost In Front Of Congress
Akio Toyoda, the grandson of Toyota's founder, yesterday said he regretted the company had failed to put customers first.
"It's taken us too long to come to grips with a rare but serious set of safety issues," Jim Lentz said.
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mulegejim
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Oso
Well, my 2004 Taco is not on the recall list (yet). I've been over THAT road a few times and so far the only trouble I've had was the driver's seat
coming loose. But in all fairness, the former owner (Max) was not exactly a featherweight. I've been happy with it but I only have 45k on it. Now
I'm concerned about electronic throttle control. Anybody know if this model has it?
I miss my '53 Willys. |
Oso, I have a 2005 Tacoma so have followed this pretty close - so far as I know the problem, whatever it is, started in 2005 for Tacoma. Haven't heard
2004's mentioned anywhere. Jim
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Phil S
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Oso. You miss your '53 Willys?????? I miss my 49 Willys also. My 49 Willys Jeepster. Yellow in color. It was the 'cats meowwwwww'!!!!!
And I was a junior in high school at the time.
Regarding GWB spending Clintons saved $$$$$$$$$. Wasn't that a Republican congress during Clintons term????? If so, how did Clinton manage to do that
all by himself???????
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805gregg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
To buy my 2011 Tundra with a re-engineered system and possibly a lower price!!!!!! |
They are way over priced now. They cost as much as a real truck.
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mulegejim
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You talk about getting off topic!!!!!!! Let's stop the political BS. I thought this post was about Toyota vehicles - guess I was wrong.
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by mulegejim
You talk about getting off topic!!!!!!! Let's stop the political BS. I thought this post was about Toyota vehicles - guess I was wrong.
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Yes indeed!
Here is the name of this thread: 2010 Toyota Tacoma Recall
I have a 2010 Tacoma.
Other than to make sure I don't have two floor mats under my gas pedal, there is no notice, TSB or recall for my truck. Some trucks did have a
driveshaft recall with driveshafts made by the Dana Corp. for Toyota.
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