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DaliDali
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
If you wait till it expires, you are toast. You have to apply no sooner than 30 days prior to expiration. |
I think this applies only to FM-3 and FM-2 renewals only.
Once one moves to the permanent status card, the FM-2 must expire first.
At least this is how multiple agents in Loreto explained it to me recently.
Now it's even more obfuscated than ever!!!!!!
Next week I am going to have another chat with them about this and see if I can get the EXACT statute citation that says this.
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DaliDali
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
If you wait till it expires, you are toast. You have to apply no sooner than 30 days prior to expiration. |
I think this applies only to FM-3 and FM-2 renewals only.
Once one moves to the permanent status card, the FM-2 must expire first.
At least this is how multiple agents in Loreto explained it to me recently.
Now it's even more obfuscated than ever!!!!!!
Next week I am going to have another chat with them about this and see if I can get the EXACT statute citation that says this.
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I applied for mine BEFORE my FM2 expired. The whole process took about 6 weeks. If you let your FM-2 or FM-3
expire, you will have to start the process from the beginning, from your home country for either a residencia permanente or temporal.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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bajaguy
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Pay attention
^^^^^ What M'loco said
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DaliDali
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
| Quote: | Originally posted by DaliDali
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
If you wait till it expires, you are toast. You have to apply no sooner than 30 days prior to expiration. |
I think this applies only to FM-3 and FM-2 renewals only.
Once one moves to the permanent status card, the FM-2 must expire first.
At least this is how multiple agents in Loreto explained it to me recently.
Now it's even more obfuscated than ever!!!!!!
Next week I am going to have another chat with them about this and see if I can get the EXACT statute citation that says this.
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I applied for mine BEFORE my FM2 expired. The whole process took about 6 weeks. If you let your FM-2 or FM-3
expire, you will have to start the process from the beginning, from your home country for either a residencia permanente or temporal.
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Indeed Mono, there is some confusion at different Migra locations so it seems.
I will get to the bottom of this here locally next week. (maybe)
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My FM3 is coming up to its expiry date. I have already had 3 renewals and I think I can qualify for Permanente at that time.
Can anyone here in the Ensenada area provide me with the name and phone number of a decent lawyer or agent in the area, who can help me get my
Permanente?
Thanks!
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DaliDali
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Yes sir boss..pickin it up here boss
| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
^^^^^ What M'loco said |
You could have gone all day without the condescending remarks Bajaguy.
Todos los lugares pueden no ser los mismos..... as has been discussed at length here many times.
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redmesa
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So far 4 months and counting....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by redmesa
So far 4 months and counting.... |
Do you have someone in Santa Rosalia working on it for you?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by colamex4
My FM3 is coming up to its expiry date. I have already had 3 renewals and I think I can qualify for Permanente at that time.
Can anyone here in the Ensenada area provide me with the name and phone number of a decent lawyer or agent in the area, who can help me get my
Permanente?
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Carlos Victorica
He has a small office in front of, and attached to the INM building.
646-175-7893 office
646-112-5480 cell
carlosvictorica7@hotmail.com
both phones are in Ensenada
Ask for Carlos or his daughter, Gabby.
[Edited on 6-13-2013 by bajaguy]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DaliDali
You could have gone all day without the condescending remarks Bajaguy. |
Actually, I couldn't 
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DaliDali
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
| Quote: | Originally posted by DaliDali
You could have gone all day without the condescending remarks Bajaguy. |
Actually, I couldn't |
Try harder again next time Bajaguy.
It's so easy, even a cave man can do it.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DaliDali
Try harder again next time Bajaguy.
It's so easy, even a cave man can do it. |
Nah, I learned from Dennis 
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DaliDali
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
| Quote: | Originally posted by DaliDali
Try harder again next time Bajaguy.
It's so easy, even a cave man can do it. |
Nah, I learned from Dennis |
Yuck yuck......he IS el maestro de todos nosotros.
Being the polite guy I am....I want to sincerely thank you for
your input on the conundrum of this permanent visa stuff.
As we speak, I have a local amiga attorney pounding the pages of the las p�ginas de la ley.....in search of the truth. If the truth is to be had, she
will find it.
On edit.....I should ask you and Mono if you started the permanent process BEFORE the new rules were in place?...
[Edited on 6-13-2013 by DaliDali]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DaliDali
Yuck yuck......he IS el maestro de todos nosotros.
Being the polite guy I am....I want to sincerely thank you for
your input on the conundrum of this permanent visa stuff.
As we speak, I have a local amiga attorney pounding the pages of the las p�ginas de la ley.....in search of the truth. If the truth is to be had, she
will find it. |
Ah, the truth......and the facts. An elusive quarry in Mexico, akin to finding a Unicorn.
If she finds it, it will only be good for today, for tomorrow it will certainly be different.
Good luck Amigo, I am off to Happy Hour!!!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DaliDali
As we speak, I have a local amiga attorney pounding the pages of the las p�ginas de la ley.....in search of the truth. If the truth is to be had, she
will find it.
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The "truth," should it differ from SOP of the office you deal with, will be your worst enemy.
Being instructive with the personnel in that office will have the same effect.
NoNoNo.......shouldn't be telling the boss how to do his job.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajaguy
Nah, I learned from Dennis |
Thank you, Grasshopper. 
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different question-- same subject
The lady who has been handling our process in La paz told us we could- with proof of income receive the RP card this time and we got our 6 months of
bank statements, but she ways they want same name on passport as the bank statements and are being very firm.
The name on passport is "first, middle and last names" the name on bank statement is "first, middle initial, and last name", she says no go and try to
get the bank statements changed- like that's easy to do for the last 6 months--another helpful facilitator advised me no such problem in LaPaz.
Anyone else in this boat-- I don't want to go ahead and get waylaid by some beauracrat coming up with some hurdle that he decided on his own.
Life is too short to drink bad wine
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| Quote: | Originally posted by capitolkat
but she ways they want same name on passport as the bank statements and are being very firm.
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No problem. Do what I did and make your own bank statements.
With an old statement, copy the back side with all the microscopic data..........turn it over and print your monthly statements that you need on the
front.
You can then convert it to an editable PDF file and fix your names.......or, just like the old days, physically cut 'n paste new names over the old.
Just be sure to use color where it's in color......back side too.
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DaliDali
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Today, June 14,2013, I had a chit chat with the local IMS agents in Loreto.
Both, separate and apart, answered my questions again about how and when to initiate the process for obtaining the permanent status card.
Again, they both told me in order for it to be legally accepted as a change from FM-2 to permanent status, the FM-2 must have expired. Then and only
then is it submitted for review and issuance. There reasoning was, according to them and MX IMS regulations, if you submit at the 360 day point of the
FM-2, your short 5 days of being here the full year on that FM-2, and therefore your application is not valid for being in MX for the full 365 days.
The agents went on to say that a FM-2 holder, at his/her discretion, could initiate the proceedings prior to the actual expire date. But in no
instance, would the actual documentation be submitted before the expire date.
They stated a person could submit the photos necessary, pay the bank the renewal fees and submit the application prior to the expire date...but the
actual submission date would necessarily have to be after the FM-2 expires.
In addition, both of these agents again, told me, once that FM-2 expires, the applicant has 6 (six) months within which to initiate the application
process to go to permanent.
During this 6 month period, if the applicant chooses to take this option, the FM-2 currently being held is still valid for entry into MX. Yes, even
though it says expired (their words not mine)
One agent gave me an example scenario.....if your FM-2 expires on July 1 , 2013, you have until 6 months later to start your permanent process. But in
no case can you be late past the 6 months date.
[Edited on 6-14-2013 by DaliDali]
[Edited on 6-14-2013 by DaliDali]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DaliDali
On edit.....I should ask you and Mono if you started the permanent process BEFORE the new rules were in place?...
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After, I just picked mine up, took 6 weeks. Instead of wading into it this time, I hired Margarita at the
Paperchase in La Paz to file the documents, two trips to La Paz, once to give my fingerprints and once to pick up the card. It cost less than a
hundred bucks, best money I ever spent.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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