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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Is to Follow the Gold.
In the Snowjob case, there would be NO Gold for Mexico.
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Mr. Bull,
Your poetry has the rhythm and meter style similar to Charlie Manson's blurbs ....sort of a psychotic haiku thing going on...
Don't believe everything you think....
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Some thoughts:
A Country Founded by Geniuses but Run by Idiots.
Attributed to Jeff Foxworthy:
If you can get arrested for hunting or fishing without a license, but not for entering and remaining in the country illegally — you might live in a
nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If you have to get your parents’ permission to go on a field trip or to take an aspirin in school, but not to get an abortion — you might live in a
nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If you MUST show your identification to board an airplane, cash a check, buy liquor, or check out a library book and rent a video, but not to vote for
who runs the government — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If the government wants to prevent stable, law-abiding citizens from owning gun magazines that hold more than ten rounds, but gives twenty F-16
fighter jets to the crazy new leaders in Egypt — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If, in the nation’s largest city, you can buy two 16-ounce sodas, but not one 24-ounce soda, because 24-ounces of a sugary drink might make you fat —
you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If an 80-year-old woman or a three-year-old girl who is confined to a wheelchair can be strip-searched by the TSA at the airport, but a woman in a
burka or a hijab is only subject to having her neck and head searched — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If your government believes that the best way to eradicate trillions of dollars of debt is to spend trillions more — you might live in a nation that
was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If a seven-year-old boy can be thrown out of school for saying his teacher is “cute,” but hosting a sexual exploration or diversity class in grade
school is perfectly acceptable — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If hard work and success are met with higher taxes and more government regulation and intrusion, while not working is rewarded with Food Stamps, WIC
checks, Medicaid benefits, subsidized housing, and free cell phones — you might live in a nation that was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
If the government’s plan for getting people back to work is to provide incentives for not working, by granting 99 weeks of unemployment checks,
without any requirement to prove that gainful employment was diligently sought, but couldn’t be found — you might live in a nation that was founded by
geniuses but is run by idiots.
If you pay your mortgage faithfully, denying yourself the newest big-screen TV, while your neighbor buys iPhones, time shares, a wall-sized do-it-all
plasma screen TV and new cars, and the government forgives his debt when he defaults on his mortgage — you might live in a nation that was founded by
geniuses but is run by idiots.
If being stripped of your Constitutional right to defend yourself makes you more “safe” according to the government — you might live in a nation that
was founded by geniuses but is run by idiots.
And as for Slim Pickens:
That film clip is touching....it appears that even the lawman gets tired of killing.....maybe putting the badge down...("I can't use it anymore...")
could be seen as a metaphor for the USA being the world's sheriff .....and being seen as the bad guy....
Don't believe everything you think....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
Giving aid and comfort to the enemy is treasonous. |
I believe that the notion of "treason" only relates to providing such information to an enemy with whom the USA has formally declared war.....and the
last formally declared war the USA was in was WW II.....the rest of the incursions fed by cannon fodder were undeclared wars....
I believe it says so constitutionally.....but I have been wrong before
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Article III, Section. 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their
Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act,
or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption
of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
Don't really know what constitutes an "Enemy." I'd bet it includes our opponents in "shootin' wars" - as opposed to cold wars - even if they are
undeclared. I remember a sailor on the USS Ranger was charged with sabotage in time of war for destroying the reduction gears on the ship.
This was during the Vietnam war, so who knows what constitutes "time of war". Seems a like permanent state since 9/11.
Anyway, the Rosenbergs were executed for espionage, not treason, because they had conveyed information to a foreign government "relating to the
national defense." That's pretty broad - and makes no mention of war or enemies. Jonathan Pollard was given a life sentence for espionage and he
gave info to Israel. Seems like Snowden is in real trouble if we get our hands on him.
[Edited on 7-14-2013 by Correcamino]
Si sirve, sirve.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
Some thoughts:
A Country Founded by Geniuses but Run by Idiots.
Attributed to Jeff Foxworthy:
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All I can say is ditto that... and AMEN!
Linda
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| Quote: | | Quote: | I believe that the notion of "treason" only relates to providing such information to an enemy with whom the USA has formally declared war.....and the
last formally declared war the USA was in was WW II.....the rest of the incursions fed by cannon fodder were undeclared wars....
I believe it says so constitutionally.....but I have been wrong before
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Article III, Section. 3. Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their
Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. No Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two Witnesses to the same overt Act,
or on Confession in open Court. The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, but no Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption
of Blood, or Forfeiture except during the Life of the Person attainted.
Don't really know what constitutes an "Enemy." I'd bet it includes our opponents in "shootin' wars" - as opposed to cold wars - even if they are
undeclared. I remember a sailor on the USS Ranger was charged with sabotage in time of war for destroying the reduction gears on the ship.
This was during the Vietnam war, so who knows what constitutes "time of war". Seems a like permanent state since 9/11.
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It seems like the new US government definition of enemy is any US citizen.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
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It seems like the new US government definition of enemy is any US citizen. |
I think some of the citizens ARE the enemy:
http://www.wimp.com/strangepublic/
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Unbelievable! A must see video
The harder I work, the luckier I get
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| Quote: | | Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
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It seems like the new US government definition of enemy is any US citizen. |
I think some of the citizens ARE the enemy:
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Some are really the enemy:
Si sirve, sirve.
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My question is this: How does Snowden know that the other countries i.e. Russia are not using sordid and unethical practices in their own countries
i.e. KGB, and that the shared confidential information will be used for the good of all? Does he really believe that Russia, Bolivia, Nicaragua and
Venezuela don't use illegal practices when it comes to their national security? Does he really believe sharing this information will benefit everyone
involved?
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What will the Russians do with Snowden when he no longer has information to give them? A cozy cabin in Siberia? (No heat of course)...who would want
to keep this guy in their country, given the fact he is so trustworthy with classified information?
rea | Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Nyet ?
Yet !
I suppose it will boil down to WHOM Putin dislikes more.
He is said to dislike and hold Snowden in Contempt and Disgust.
On the other hand, his contempt for B.O. is also well-known and the opportunity to stick it to him (and the U.S.) is certainly attractive.
In ANY case, Snowjob is probably right when he says that the only place he might remain secure is inside Russia.
We wouldn't tap him there. He isn't important enough to re-ignite those old Bad Relations.
It IS for sure that his life will never again be what he imagined it.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
What will the Russians do with Snowden when he no longer has information to give them? |
They'll put him to work hacking into NSA systems. I'm sure the deal will be one he can't refuse. He'll have big problems if he's not successful and
probably a very comfortable life if he is.
Score one, Putin.
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We did not attain the status of #1 by Birth Right. It was Attained With Blood and Sacrifice and It is Foolish to think it can be Maintained with any
less effort.
J.P. said that.
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What are you referring to JP in this case? | Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
We did not attain the status of #1 by Birth Right. It was Attained With Blood and Sacrifice and It is Foolish to think it can be Maintained with any
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J.P. said that. |
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Thanks motoged ...... for putting things into their proper perspective 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
What are you referring to JP in this case? | Quote: | Originally posted by J.P.
We did not attain the status of #1 by Birth Right. It was Attained With Blood and Sacrifice and It is Foolish to think it can be Maintained with any
less effort.
J.P. said that. |
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I didn't know there was a case what's your point?
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What does #1 by birthright etc. have to do with Edward Snowden's situation.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
What does #1 by birthright etc. have to do with Edward Snowden's situation. |
i think he was just throwing out a jingoistic notion for lack of anything better to say,...
so has edward snowden been to baja? perhaps he spent a spring break in cabo and did upside down shots at the giggling marlin. and how about that
girlfriend of his?
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I know he was living high on the hog in Hawaii, and his pole dancer girlfriend was devastated when he left her for the Russian spy.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
....his pole dancer girlfriend was devastated when he left her for the Russian spy. |
What's the big deal....Polish women and Russian women are similar in so many ways...even some linguistic similarities....
Don't believe everything you think....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by motoged
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
....his pole dancer girlfriend was devastated when he left her for the Russian spy. |
What's the big deal....Polish women and Russian women are similar in so many ways...even some linguistic similarities.... |
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