It's been a cut and paste job for the past 10 years that I can remember. However, the highway was built on a geological fault which was probably a
big mistake. The earthquakes can crack a house foundation and can cause damage to an undamaged building. So I am sure they contributed somewhat to
the demise of this area. It's unfortunate because it is a beautiful road but probably not the most sound, they will probably divert the whole road to
the free road for safety and there goes the views.
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Originnally posted by David K
It is an unstable cliff, as many are next to the ocean. It didn't need an earthquake to slide, but if there are quakes it sure helps the ground to
move. Maybe the government needs to publish the earthquake story to keep protests down that the highway should have never been constructed there...?
The view seemed to be more important when picking the route above Salsipuedes beach?
All highways in California and Baja California travel over faults... It would be impossible to build a road anywhere here otherwise.
Building next to a collapsing sea cliff, on a fault or not, was the problem. It has worked okay until (as you said) about 10 years ago when that spot
obviously began moving and they kept pouring asphalt over the cracks... It was just bound to happen... the road needs to be further away from the
ocean and landslide area... Perhaps on top of the mountain?
I crossed yesterday morning (Saturday) early at Otay and arrived at the toll road and Blvd. 2000 around first light. A few minutes later traffic was
diverted off the toll road onto the old highway.
I didn't know what the problem was at the time and didn't find out until I got home to Loreto an hour or so ago.
The old road from the detour on to Ensedada is in good shape. I would estimate that it took only 10 - 15 minutes longer than a trip on the toll road
before the collapse.
The old road from the detour on to Ensedada is in good shape. I would estimate that it took only 10 - 15 minutes longer than a trip on the toll road
before the collapse.
That is a good thing.
Geologists must be a very frustrated group of people as they are far too often ignored.
EnsenadaDr, no two ways about it the quakes helped give it a push.
My money is on a new route for a long time if not permanently. Like others have said, the instability stretches all the way to San Miguel. Back to the
old remote Salsepuedes coastline. We will probably see all the other northbound/southbound routes get a major facelift.
I cannot count the number of times my family has traversed this road. But, there are major geologic problems along much of the highway South of
Rosarito. Hence, the almost constant repaving and rehabilitating year after year.
Originally posted by David K
It was just bound to happen... the road needs to be further away from the ocean and landslide area... Perhaps on top of the mountain?
Bound to happen? Actually, it's been happening for eons... In slow and fast motion, so to speak.
Why build a new road on top of the hill when the inland free road already takes the path of least resistance? Widen the free road to 4 lanes,
straighten out a few curves, and bob's your uncle!
The scenic road can be left to the 4wd crowd to provide them a new area for knuckle dragging
Somebody mentioned building a bridge,... Silly idea, the spans would be quite large, costs and time to construct would be prohibitive, relative to
improving existing free road.
First thanks to all who have reported and posted vids and pics of this event.
Little story here-- Friday night I read the first few posts in this thread after drinking a few cervezas with Jeff, AKA Pancho Villa and
Bajacalifornian. I told Jeff we would fish Saturday for a few hours, and come over at 5:45. We left our park (K-38) and headed down to La Salina. I
never thought another thing about this thread because the road was open. Well at 6:15AM the road was closed and they wern`t letting anyone through. I
guessed what the problem might be and said we were just going a few miles to La Salina. NO was the answer, libre only!! So the libre we took to a "go
around" road to get to the boat and fish. We did see numerous vehicles on the toll road going north and south from La Salina, but it must have been
local traffic.
BTW the fishing was good, except for those damn whales!! We would be fishing peacefully away when the sound of
"WWWWHHHHHHOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAA" would mean another pest is almost ramming the boat!! Almost as bad as those darn waves that make all
that noise when I`m trying to take a siesta!!!
I would imagine that if you live in La Salina or Baja Mar and can prove it, they will let you through.
Quote:
Originally posted by dpwahoo
So, if you live in La Salina you cant get through? What about playing golf at Bajamar? That would devestate those two establishments.
Originally posted by dpwahoo
So, if you live in La Salina you cant get through? What about playing golf at Bajamar? That would devestate those two establishments.
All I know is that Saturday morning we could get back to the toll road south of the road block. Another thing-- the gas station with the OXXO was
open. So if you are craving coffee, liquor, cigs, doughnuts, cookies or whatever, stop on by!!
Originally posted by dpwahoo
So, if you live in La Salina you cant get through? What about playing golf at Bajamar? That would devestate those two establishments.
All I know is that Saturday morning we could get back to the toll road south of the road block. Another thing-- the gas station with the OXXO was
open. So if you are craving coffee, liquor, cigs, doughnuts, cookies or whatever, stop on by!!
so you
crossed the bridge going into la mision and followed the road on the south side of the river coming out in punta piedras? interesting shortcut they
gave you!
Originally posted by dpwahoo
So, if you live in La Salina you cant get through? What about playing golf at Bajamar? That would devestate those two establishments.
All I know is that Saturday morning we could get back to the toll road south of the road block. Another thing-- the gas station with the OXXO was
open. So if you are craving coffee, liquor, cigs, doughnuts, cookies or whatever, stop on by!!
so you
crossed the bridge going into la mision and followed the road on the south side of the river coming out in punta piedras? interesting shortcut they
gave you!
Yeah that is the road. Shortcut??? Not going south, maybe coming from the south and then over to the toll road. I`m not talking about a shortcut that
someone gave me, just saying that La Salina and Bajamar can be reached on this road if they don`t let you through the road block.
Originally posted by dpwahoo
So, if you live in La Salina you cant get through? What about playing golf at Bajamar? That would devestate those two establishments.
All I know is that Saturday morning we could get back to the toll road south of the road block. Another thing-- the gas station with the OXXO was
open. So if you are craving coffee, liquor, cigs, doughnuts, cookies or whatever, stop on by!!
so you
crossed the bridge going into la mision and followed the road on the south side of the river coming out in punta piedras? interesting shortcut they
gave you!
Yeah that is the road. Shortcut??? Not going south, maybe coming from the south and then over to the toll road. I`m not talking about a shortcut that
someone gave me, just saying that La Salina and Bajamar can be reached on this road if they don`t let you through the road block.
gotcha, hey that a nice little campground along that road dontcha think?
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