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http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=91591#pid1140...
Found it.
The picture with the ledge and rocks is west of la purisma so dont get worried by those pictures.
[Edited on 4-24-2019 by DouglasP]
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Quote: Originally posted by DouglasP  | | JZ, the road into san isdro/la purisima is doable in a truck, we have always higher clearance but it would be ok in your. Slow going for sure. There
is a couple water ccrossings but you will be fine. I have a trip reort i will link if i can find it. |
How long do you think it took you to go from MX 1 to San Isdro. Looks like it's about 32 miles.
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| Quote: Originally posted by MulegeAL | I agree with Kurt, would not describe it as repaired, just passable with good bikes/riders or high clearance rigs with tires good for rock crawling
and drivers with good common sense & self-rescue skills/equipment. It's a bit more than a picnic drive to a waterhole.
No where near as good as it was before Jimena. I hesitate to use the word "good" on any of the rancho pass roads out there after all the storm damage
last 10 years.
DK, would encourage you to take a pass at posting it as open until you take a stab at driving it yourself to determine how "dotted" the route line
will be on your map!
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I think it was Richard (willyAirstream) who said a resident of San José de Magdalena said it was in great shape? I like to hear multiple reports for
more confidence in the conditions.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by DouglasP | | JZ, the road into san isdro/la purisima is doable in a truck, we have always higher clearance but it would be ok in your. Slow going for sure. There
is a couple water ccrossings but you will be fine. I have a trip reort i will link if i can find it. |
How long do you think it took you to go from MX 1 to San Isdro. Looks like it's about 32 miles.
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34 miles and 3 hours in 2017, with a couple photo stops.
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by MulegeAL | I agree with Kurt, would not describe it as repaired, just passable with good bikes/riders or high clearance rigs with tires good for rock crawling
and drivers with good common sense & self-rescue skills/equipment. It's a bit more than a picnic drive to a waterhole.
No where near as good as it was before Jimena. I hesitate to use the word "good" on any of the rancho pass roads out there after all the storm damage
last 10 years.
DK, would encourage you to take a pass at posting it as open until you take a stab at driving it yourself to determine how "dotted" the route line
will be on your map!
[Edited on 4-23-2019 by MulegeAL] |
I think it was Richard (willyAirstream) who said a resident of San José de Magdalena said it was in great shape? I like to hear multiple reports for
more confidence in the conditions. |
The road west from San Jose de Magdalena was graded and in good shape for a few miles but that did not extend into the area we are discussing here. I
believe that only Al and I have given you first hand descriptions.
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Is there any chance Richard or one of you guys will do a run, up to Guadalupe from San José de Magdalena? It was Richard who posted at the end of
September about it being reopened and although he didn't go on the October 6 trip up he mentioned, he did just message me this:
Cars, trucks, and motos made the trip without problems. They have since widened it and have done some grading. I have not seen it first
hand.
I want my road guide to have the most up-to-date details when it does get published as well as I am advising a non-Baja Nomad who wants to go up
there.
A signed copy of my book or a pdf of the road guide to whoever helps me on this as a thank you.
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| Quote: Originally posted by David K | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by DouglasP | | JZ, the road into san isdro/la purisima is doable in a truck, we have always higher clearance but it would be ok in your. Slow going for sure. There
is a couple water ccrossings but you will be fine. I have a trip reort i will link if i can find it. |
How long do you think it took you to go from MX 1 to San Isdro. Looks like it's about 32 miles.
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34 miles and 3 hours in 2017, with a couple photo stops. |
Sounds about right.
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Here are a couple of emails I received from a guy I had met at a function out at Punta Chivato. We exchanged emails so we could get together for a
ride. This is his description of the Mulege to San Isidro trail. Email body in quotes.
"There was a ride that came up suddenly and I totally spaced out on calling you. That’s the bad side. The good side is that it turned out to be the
expedition from hell. Only two bikes made it through to Isidro over the mountains. Not fun and more than a little hazardous. I'll fill you in sometime
in person.
We are headed for Washington State for he Summer soon but I will keep your information. There are several riders from the states who will be coming
down next Winter and there WILL be rides!"
"A few minutes of the Chuparosa road from Mulege to Isidro. Worth watching more than once to get a feel for the dangereous dropoffs. The steepness can
only be judged by the sounds of the engine. Photos and video flatten things out so much.
The rider is Pagdimer Bukovitz Hernandez. He is a mechanic at the local bike shop and has been riding these roads his whole life. He is on a 300
Kawasaki. The other bike seen is a 450 Honda. Way too much for this road.
There was a CanAm side by side that made it through with some damage. We crawled our way through all of this filmed section with a stone stock 2001
Tracker with street tires and, more amazingly, were followed by a Lexus SUV. Air conditioning and music!
Things went from bad to worse and both the Tracker and Lexus turned back to avoid sheet metal damage."
https://youtu.be/prPPMy9kFuY
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Great post Doug. Gives a very good idea of what is involved. Doesn't look too bad on a bike. That guy didn't look like he was use to riding over
rocks.
He also desperately needs a Hero 6. It has image stabilization that would take all that shaking out.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | Great post Doug. Gives a very good idea of what is involved. Doesn't look too bad on a bike. That guy didn't look like he was use to riding over
rocks.
He also desperately needs a Hero 6. It has image stabilization that would take all that shaking out.
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When do you plan on tackling the trail?
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Thinking July. Ride up with one of my friends who is a better rider. Send my kids and another friend around the other way in the truck.
It's too much for my truck w/o getting beat too all hell.
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Looked like the guy could ride rocks just fine to me. Looking forward to hearing how the ride through Guajademi Wash is.
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Just watching the video the trail doesn't look much different that the two times I've been over it. I assume the bad sections were not in the video. I
understand a rock slide blocked the road do you know where that is/was in relation to the video shown?
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| Quote: Originally posted by TMW | | Just watching the video the trail doesn't look much different that the two times I've been over it. I assume the bad sections were not in the video. I
understand a rock slide blocked the road do you know where that is/was in relation to the video shown? |
I don't, pretty brief emails I got from him. Wish I had known they were going.
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The guy in the CanAm is my neighbor Gary. He described it as the trip from hell. They made it eventually to San Juanico but trailered it back to
Mulege on the main road. Almost comical that the local guy would try and lead the cars on this trail. "Do you think my Lexus can make it? No
problemo."
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A lot of times it depends on a drivers experience off road. A few years ago there was a post on here where someone posted that it took them over 8
hours to get from the Comondu's to San Isidro mostly in 4x4 low in their FORD F250. I was down there a couple of weeks later in my GMC Z71 and drove
from San Isidro to the Comondu's in 1.5 hours never in 4x4 low and that included a couple of stops for pictures and to talk to a road crew working on
the road.
If I don't know someones experience level then I take their opinion that a road is really bad with a grain of salt. I'll listen and be prepared just
in case.
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| Quote: Originally posted by TMW | A lot of times it depends on a drivers experience off road. A few years ago there was a post on here where someone posted that it took them over 8
hours to get from the Comondu's to San Isidro mostly in 4x4 low in their FORD F250. I was down there a couple of weeks later in my GMC Z71 and drove
from San Isidro to the Comondu's in 1.5 hours never in 4x4 low and that included a couple of stops for pictures and to talk to a road crew working on
the road.
If I don't know someones experience level then I take their opinion that a road is really bad with a grain of salt. I'll listen and be prepared just
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From his description, there's no question those vehicles didn't belong there. Even if the road was in fair condition the rocks down here will eat
street tires for lunch.
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