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David answered this a few posts back.
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No, MaryAnn has not been found
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Quote: Originally posted by wilderone  | | "On Sunday [5/5/24], dozens of mourners, surfers and demonstrators gathered in a main plaza in Ensenada, the nearest city, to voice their anger and
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https://abc7.com/3-bodies-found-in-mexico-identified-as-miss...
If recollection serves me, the well was found on a property where an otherwise abandoned home was found with food and/or evidence of being recently
utilized... with an implication of being connected to those who were arrested. Perhaps the boarded-up well was found after this home was first
found/searched, etc.
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| Quote: Originally posted by cupcake | | Quote: Originally posted by surabi |
Why did they think to look there for the surfer boys? I'd suspect no one bothered to look very thoroughly for the rancher. And what's the back story
on that? Why was he killed? Did they steal his truck, too? Same body disposal site, same perps? |
The authorities might have gotten the ´well location´ from interrogating the woman they apprehended, the woman they found via the victim´s phone
that she was carrying.
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We may never know the granular details of how the investigation chose to investigate where and when.
That said,… in watching the sunday press conference by the prosecutor, they showed some slides/photos which gave me the impression that the well was
located close to the tents, like on the order of a few hundred meters distance.
Bodies in wells seems to be a theme this week. We got the rancher and surfers in this well. And just a day ago they found several bodies in a well
in rosarito.
I also recall another murder of americans a few years back in baja where the bodies were dumped in a well.
[Edited on 5-7-2024 by mtgoat666]
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Yes, from El Socorro or Socorrito, south of San Quintín.
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It has been reported that when the three young men resisted having their truck stolen, one of the thiefs took out a gun and started shooting.
I recall other instances when people commiting this type of murder claim that the resisting of the theft caused the victims to be shot.´Íf only they
hadn´t resisted´...it seems like the perpetrators are saying this to take the edge off of what they have done. I mean, wouldn´t a shot into the
ground put an end to ´the resistance´?
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I'm pretty sure that the thugs were more concerned with leaving witnesses than overcoming resistance.
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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| Quote: Originally posted by cupcake | ´Íf only they hadn´t resisted´...it seems like the perpetrators are saying this to take the edge off of what they have done. I mean, wouldn´t a
shot into the ground put an end to ´the resistance´?
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The prosecutor HYPOTHESIZED that the victims were shot resisting. The prosecutor apparently has no direct evidence, and possibly was victim blaming.
The perps are likely psycopaths and meth heads, they probably have no inhibitions and shoot for little to no reason
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im reading (including world news tonight) that perps were after the truck tires, photo's of the burned truck clearly show the wheels still on it?
wtf??
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Exactly. Any sane person, when having a gun pointed at them, being given the choice of their truck or their life, is going to tell them to take the
truck. I doubt they were resisting. Maybe trying to verbally reason with them, at the most.
Some friends of mine had a home invasion one evening while sitting on the sofa watching the Oscars. The front door to the living room where they were
sitting was open, as it normally was when they were home. It wasn't a remote area- it's a neighborhood with other houses on all sides.
3 guys suddenly appeared, brandishing knives and carrying a rope. The woman of the couple was a fast thinker- she instantly and surreptitiously pushed
her phone off the coffee table with her foot that had been resting there, kicking it under the sofa. Then she told the perps that they had friends
with kids coming over to watch the show with them in 5 minutes, please not to tie them up, as the kids would be traumatized if they saw that, just
take what they wanted and get out. (She was fluent in Spanish).
The perps did exactly that. They took the husband's phone, as well as his toolbox, laptop, and other stuff, but they were able to call 911 immediately
because of her quick thinking in hiding her phone.
The perps were caught a couple weeks later, because they had done another home invasion nearby a week before that, where they stole the woman's truck,
and were so stupid they were driving it around the area.
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"And just a day ago they found several bodies in a well in rosarito." Do you have more info on this? News report?
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What is the deal.
I saw a picture of the truck with its wheels and not burned, then then a picture of it burned with wheels.
Photoshop?
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| Quote: Originally posted by wilderone | | "And just a day ago they found several bodies in a well in rosarito." Do you have more info on this? News report? |
re-reading it, seems like thy found one body...
from https://www.facebook.com/Patrulla.646
Familiares encuentran a una mujer que fue asesinada y arrojada a un pozo en Rosarito #ComparteEstaNota
La tarde del sábado 4 de mayo fueron localizados los restos de una mujer, los cuales fueron arrojados en bolsas dentro de un pozo de agua.
La Secretaría de Seguridad Ciudadana dio a conocer que el hecho fue reportado al 9-1-1 a las 16:23, cuando los oficiales fueron enviados al rancho
Escondido, ubicado cerca del corredor 2000, en el cañón Rosarito.
La parte reportante indicó que junto con familiares de la víctima, identificada como Claudia P. L., andaban en su búsqueda cuando encontraron algo
sospechoso en en el pozo, de 1.5 metros por lado y 4 a 6 metros de profundidad.
Debido a las características del pozo, los preventivos solicitaron el apoyo del Cuerpo de Bomberos de la misma dependencia, quienes confirmaron que
se trataba de restos humanos.
Los oficiales observaron que en una de las cabañas había una piedra con manchas pardorrojizas, por lo que procedieron a asegurar el área y dejarla
a cargo de la Fiscalía General del Estado (FGE).
Extraoficialmente, se informó que fue detenida una persona del sexo masculino por su presuntamente participación en los hechos, cuyo esclarecimiento
se encuentra a cargo de la FGE.
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And 3 days ago, a shootout in San Quintin: Nowadays, not the Baja of my experience. Grateful for those experiences - Baja may be in my rearview
mirror now.
"Two dead and one injured after armed attacks in San Quintin
Two men died and another was injured after two armed attacks occurred last night and this Friday morning on the public road of San Quintin
According to preliminary information, the first of the cases occurred around 9:00 p.m. on General Abelardo L. Street.. Rodriguez from the colony New
Baja California.
At the scene, the Municipal Police visualized on the street a man between 30 and 35 years old, lying upside down, with visible injuries to the head.
Before this, technicians at the Emergency Medical Center of the Red Cross determined he was lacking vital signs.
Derived from the same attack, in the yard of a quarter under construction black an injured person was located. The victim, aged between 45 and 50, had
reddish grey spots on the head. In his condition, he was moved to a nosocomia to receive emergency medical care.
On their part, the second of the events occurred after 7:00 in the morning on the Eleven Street of the Paseo San Quintin colony.
On an unembroiled building was an injured person, approximately 1.60 meters and brown complexion. On one side, at least five shell casings were
appreciated. Following a review by emergency medical technicians, they confirmed there was no vital signs."
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| Quote: Originally posted by wilderone | And 3 days ago, a shootout in San Quintin: Nowadays, not the Baja of my experience. Grateful for those experiences - Baja may be in my rearview
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San Quintin has had a population explosion. The more people, the more problems. It's a real pain-in-butt to drive through, but easily avoided using
the San Felipe route.
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| Quote: Originally posted by mtgoat666 | | Quote: Originally posted by cupcake | ´Íf only they hadn´t resisted´...it seems like the perpetrators are saying this to take the edge off of what they have done. I mean, wouldn´t a
shot into the ground put an end to ´the resistance´?
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The prosecutor HYPOTHESIZED that the victims were shot resisting. The prosecutor apparently has no direct evidence, and possibly was victim blaming.
The perps are likely psycopaths and meth heads, they probably have no inhibitions and shoot for little to no reason |
It was reported all victims were shot in the head. Very doubtful moving,resisting ,victims would be shot in the head by a methhead with a gun much
less a shooter with considerable skill. They would have to be compliant at some point after seeing they were confronted with a gun and shot execution
style.who knows?
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Just read some bio of the victims. The oldest brother was actually living in San Diego. So he may have been surfing and camping in the area before,
never had anything bad happen and therefore thought there was nothing to be on guard about.
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| Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver |
Very doubtful moving,resisting ,victims would be shot in the head by a methhead with a gun much less a shooter with considerable skill. They would
have to be compliant at some point after seeing they were confronted with a gun and shot execution style.who knows?
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Maybe they were resisting until the gun was pulled out. I know that would calm me down.
The first person arrested was a 23-year-old girl. I saw a photo, and she didn't appear to be "thuggish" or a druggie. She had a victim's phone and
turned it on. That's how they found her. I bet she explained to the cops what went down and who the killer was.
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I am sure that she was advised of her right to remain silent, and offered a chance to consult an attorney first!
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver |
Very doubtful moving,resisting ,victims would be shot in the head by a methhead with a gun much less a shooter with considerable skill. They would
have to be compliant at some point after seeing they were confronted with a gun and shot execution style.who knows?
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Maybe they were resisting until the gun was pulled out. I know that would calm me down.
The first person arrested was a 23-year-old girl. I saw a photo, and she didn't appear to be "thuggish" or a druggie. She had a victim's phone and
turned it on. That's how they found her. I bet she explained to the cops what went down and who the killer was.
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Go look at the FB page of the arrested girl. She posts often about c-ck fighting, and narco-related culture. She is a sociopath, perhaps a psychopath.
People that fight animals are flocked in the head.
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