| Pages:
1
..
49
50
51
52
53
..
83 |
Woooosh
Banned
Posts: 5240
Registered: 1-28-2007
Location: Rosarito Beach
Member Is Offline
Mood: Luminescent Waves at Rosarito Beach
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by JoeJustJoe
I have no comment on what Munoz posted, but when it comes to Fulano and his Photoshopping skills, and the wild things he makes up often out of thin
air.
I wouldn't believe Fulano if he said the sky is blue and he had a picture of a blue sky. The insane nut just doesn't have any credibility with me,
and I know many Nomad members feel the same as I do.
Now it may be the sky is really blue, but since Fulano spins, tells half-truths, and flat out lies about other "Nomad" members. How can you even
trust this dubious source from a hate forum he runs like a cult leader, and even has cult followers. ( It's a tiny cult of maybe 5 or 6 guys)
I'm sorry but Fulano is not a credible source, and anything the nut puts out shouldn't be taken seriously, but I think most Nomad members already know
that.
Fulano just is not a credible source and you should have always have a real reliable credible source to turn to instead of Fulano and his anti-Mexico
agenda. |
Now this is an interesting predicament, isn't it? Many on this thread have openly demonized both Raphael and Fulano and trust neither the words or
documents they post. It'll be interesting who among the haters and cluckers flip-flops first after the investigation Fulano did. Will Joe believe
it? Will the cluckers embrace it?. If they were to be consistent, they would say Fulano's expose carries no more weight than Raphael's posted Land
titles. But I hear the clucks already...
XPBres was apparently just squatting on the national land, but she didn't know it. Had she been a Mexican and knew she was squatting, she could have
applied for a "prescripcion positiva" and been the land owner- instead of a ripped-off renter. If it had converted to Federal Zone back then, she
could have had the concession. She could have been driving the bus instead of having been thrown under it.
Mexican real estate... the onlyway to win, is not to play.
Why do people read re-posts of what Fulano has posted when they can just go to his site and see the originals. His site has more viewers than this
one now. ???
[Edited on 3-25-2012 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
|
|
|
Woooosh
Banned
Posts: 5240
Registered: 1-28-2007
Location: Rosarito Beach
Member Is Offline
Mood: Luminescent Waves at Rosarito Beach
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Could you come up with something more original than "cluckers"?
Seriously, how well did you know the blowhard who came up with that?
You're going to align yourself with those of the bi-polar set.
A serious bummer for those that lost out. Hard to manage from a distance and a cultural divide.
I'm a big fan of renting and, until, I live full-time in Mexico for a number of years will I even contemplate putting in more than I can walk from.
|
don't forget the integrity divide...
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
|
|
|
Burbs
Junior Nomad
Posts: 78
Registered: 2-13-2012
Location: Buenaventura B.C.S. Mexico
Member Is Offline
Mood: Full Mood
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by XPBRes
Entertaining you say, I agree this is a fascinating story. You on this board have as much or more information than we ever had. I would hope all of
you could see the dilemma a few Americans had. We fell in love with a beautiful location. It was to be a new beginning to our future dreams.
Mike was a great salesman and all of us believed in him and his good work ethic. We had 10 years without a thought that it was going to be anything
but a great place to live out our lives. It was said that Mike is dead, I don't think so, I have heard that he has a place in Guaymas-San Carlos.
As much as I don't think Mark has been wrong about some of his statements: should have stayed, stuck it out and fought back. When we started Mike had
a small house, restaurant and a few palapas. The renters made that beach without Mark. We stuck it out for 15 years, he hasn't been there that long
yet and comes across as a squatter and nothing more.
Now I ask you nomads knowing all you do could you have made a decision about this that would have given you a good outcome. If we had stayed and
fought we would have Munoz beating down our door. We stop paying Olivia and she sues us for breaking a lease. It took us over a year to make decision;
maybe it was a wrong one if you believe Mark.
From what I just read on these last pages it shows that neither one of them had a right to make a lease or allow us to build. I am just as confused
and sad as I was 10 years ago.
My only goal here was to share with nomads that it’s not that easy to figure this stuff out. Most of us make choices based on experience and not
emotion. I think that in this case we fell in love with a location and trusted people that may not have had our best interest.
Mark can continue to bash me I will never stop sharing my thoughts and knowledge about this. |
Ted, sure do not intend to bash you. But quit whining and do something.
Come on back. You can have your house.
|
|
|
Woooosh
Banned
Posts: 5240
Registered: 1-28-2007
Location: Rosarito Beach
Member Is Offline
Mood: Luminescent Waves at Rosarito Beach
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by soulpatch
Could you come up with something more original than "cluckers"?
Seriously, how well did you know the blowhard who came up with that?
You're going to align yourself with those of the bi-polar set.
A serious bummer for those that lost out. Hard to manage from a distance and a cultural divide.
I'm a big fan of renting and, until, I live full-time in Mexico for a number of years will I even contemplate putting in more than I can walk from.
|
don't forget the integrity divide...
Is cluckers a clique of some kind? I just though it rhymed with a word you can't post?
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
|
|
|
Woooosh
Banned
Posts: 5240
Registered: 1-28-2007
Location: Rosarito Beach
Member Is Offline
Mood: Luminescent Waves at Rosarito Beach
|
|
please post the quote in the linked document that says Mark and Olivia are the rightful owners, as you claimed.
[Edited on 3-25-2012 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
|
|
|
Woooosh
Banned
Posts: 5240
Registered: 1-28-2007
Location: Rosarito Beach
Member Is Offline
Mood: Luminescent Waves at Rosarito Beach
|
|
Those are just local newspaper articles. Where in the LEGAL document fulano and you posted does it say Mark and Olivia actually own anything there?
They charged people rent, they evicted people from their home, they took over the nicest house and posted it on FaceBook as their "new house". But
where does it say they owned anything that gave them that right? It doesn't.
Your assertion that people should shun a lawyer for taking unpopular cases and radical legal strategies would mean Johnnie Cochran should be shunned,
apologetic and never have another client after getting OJ off for murder.
Cool your jets for now Gnukid and wait for Cypress' psychic wife to tell us when the end to this will come. It won't be soon. Get Mark and Olivia to
heal XPBres first by giving them back their house they have no right to. (And that IS in the legal document). Not all Nomads are good or trustworthy
just because they joined this message board.
[Edited on 3-25-2012 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
|
|
|
ELINVESTIG8R
Select Nomad
Posts: 15882
Registered: 11-20-2007
Location: Southern California
Member Is Offline
|
|
Rafael Muñoz Martinez'
| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
Now back to our own community, we have some issues, there remains the question of what is Whoosh's (Craig) and Elvinstr8's (David) roll in this with
Rafael and within our community. Are they part of the con? They have been heavily invested in affecting our opinion, intimidation and have added to
the confusion and reduced our sense of stability. They can deal with their personal issues whether it is with Rafael or Olivia or any BCS officials
who may be investigating their role, however, as part of a healing process for our community, they do owe everyone an apology and an explanation.
Furthermore, over this thread it does appear to me, the casual reader, that Munoz has conspired to mislead the community here on a number of issues,
respective to the articles above in order to intimidate others from visiting the Play Buenaventura location and that he conspired with Whoosh (Craig)
and Elvinstr8 (David) among others. The result has been a destabilization of social and economic security for residents, the true land owner and our
community. They should both apologize to this community and to the residents of Mulege, the state of Baja California Sur and especially Olivia
|
Kid,
As usual, you definitely are a misinformed pinhead. You falsely accuse me of having entered into a conspiracy with Rafael Muñoz Martinez. When you say
conspiracy in the vane you say it here, this denotes criminal activity! I will let Whoooosh and others defend themselves as I know they can, and
besides, I do not want to put words into their mouths.
There never was an agreement between Rafael and me to commit a crime. I said that I supported the documents he provided as proof he owned Playa
Buenaventura as they all pointed to him as being the owner.
I asked Mark and Olivia to post official paperwork so we could see that what they say is true and correct as Rafael has done. I said that I would like
to believe they are good people as people here say they are and that I wanted to believe it because when I look at their pictures and see their smiles
they look like good people. I truly wanted to believe they are good people.
I then asked, if Rafael’s documentary evidence was falsified, and if so, how? I asked if anyone could debunk them to determine who is not telling the
truth. I opined that outside governmental investigative agencies from Mexico City needed to intervene to conduct an unbiased investigation to
determine the truth. I said it did not take a rocket scientist to see that someone is not telling the truth.
I said that based on the preponderance of documentary evidence provided by Rafael on this forum and until proven to be fabricated I must stand with
him regarding his documentation.
I said that if Rafael was later deemed not to have ownership of property at Playa Buenaventura I will humbly ask for forgiveness publicly in this
forum from the rightful owner(s). Well, as we found out it did not take outside governmental investigative agency to debunk Rafael’s documents.
It was Fulano who debunked them with his outstanding on-line investigative expertise.
Below, is what he uncovered:
http://www.sra.gob.mx/sraweb/datastore/transparencia/resoluciones/Resolucion_CI_0001500003509_RR_978_09.pdf
When Fulano uncovered the truth that Rafael was in fact not the owner I withdrew my support of his documents. I even posted
the outcome of Fulano’s investigation on this thread.
For you to call me a criminal goes beyond the pale. Stick to your U.S. Government 911 conspiracy you nincompoop!
Once the true owners are determined as they have yet to be, I will apologize to them as promised.
I believe I have taken down all of my writings and gifs supporting Rafael Muñoz Martinez' documents. If not, please let me know so I can. Also, if you
quoted me with something I said in support of Rafael's documents and/or did a gif to indicate the same, please delete it for me. Thank you.
|
|
|
Cypress
Elite Nomad
Posts: 7641
Registered: 3-12-2006
Location: on the bayou
Member Is Offline
Mood: undecided
|
|
Wooosh, What? You're the self-appointed arbitrator of Baja property disputes? All because you don't want your ocean view spoiled. Pretty transparent.
Doesn't take a psychic to see thru that one. My gut feeling, not a psychic, is you're backing a loser. You probably haven't ever been down to
Buenaventura or met Mark and Olivia, but that's OK. You're entitled to your opinion. Just wonder what you're basing it on.
|
|
|
Woooosh
Banned
Posts: 5240
Registered: 1-28-2007
Location: Rosarito Beach
Member Is Offline
Mood: Luminescent Waves at Rosarito Beach
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Wooosh, What? You're the self-appointed arbitrator of Baja property disputes? All because you don't want your ocean view spoiled. Pretty transparent.
Doesn't take a psychic to see thru that one. My gut feeling, not a psychic, is you're backing a loser. You probably haven't ever been down to
Buenaventura or met Mark and Olivia, but that's OK. You're entitled to your opinion. Just wonder what you're basing it on. |
I'm just going to go back waiting for the dust to settle.
Why you demonize an ocean view? You'd have to be an idiot to let someone illegally seize land and build a condo tower in the Federal Zone in front of
you. Living in baja is all about the 24/7/365 connection to the ocean- not living in the shadow of a tower. I'm a conservationist of the beach for
the people without apology. I am also unapologetic for keeping USA investors from buying that property when it was illegally offered for sale as
having a legal land title.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
|
|
|
Cypress
Elite Nomad
Posts: 7641
Registered: 3-12-2006
Location: on the bayou
Member Is Offline
Mood: undecided
|
|
So now I'm demonizing ocean views? No. But if you don't want your view,
be it ocean, lake, mountain or anything else obstructed, you better own the property. And not attempt to dictate to the owners what they can do with
"their" property. 
|
|
|
Woooosh
Banned
Posts: 5240
Registered: 1-28-2007
Location: Rosarito Beach
Member Is Offline
Mood: Luminescent Waves at Rosarito Beach
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
So now I'm demonizing ocean views? No. But if you don't want your view,
be it ocean, lake, mountain or anything else obstructed, you better own the property. And not attempt to dictate to the owners what they can do with
"their" property. |
or in the case of M&O, don't claim what is not yours and then charge rent and seize it for non-payment of same, right?
In our case we are only defending a current, legal and valid Federal Zone Concession. If you don't want the battle, don't squat on an existing
concession and try to sell it and create fraudulent documents for it like our Nomad "Angel" did with her 3 year "Prescipcion Positiva" when it takes a
minimum of 5. Raphael and his team have been instrumental in our legal defense of the concession and his thread "Baja Real Estate Advice" details the
nature and full scope of our business partnership with him.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
|
|
|
Cypress
Elite Nomad
Posts: 7641
Registered: 3-12-2006
Location: on the bayou
Member Is Offline
Mood: undecided
|
|
Wooooosh, You dum dum dudes are relentless.
|
|
|
JoeJustJoe
Banned
Posts: 21045
Registered: 9-9-2010
Location: Occupied Aztlan
Member Is Offline
Mood: Mad as hell
|
|
Woooosh do you really want to start up your legal case against Ms Ortiz and try the legal case in front of "Nomad" jurors?
OK I'm game if that's what you really want to do. To tell your the truth I have better things to do, but if you start up. I'll be there as an
investigative reporter of course, or poser lawyer this time.
Like I said before I question Woooosh's objectivity and I question his sanity when he said somewhere above that Fulano's hate forum gets more views
that "Baja Nomad!" That's something only a Fulano cult follower would believe. Woooosh why do you suppose the very popular Fulano hate forum with so
many viewers only has about five active members who posts things on that site?
But back to Baja real estate. Here is Woooosh's quote telling us that Raphael offered Woooosh a brand new condo for free? Hey Woooosh I'll sell you or
better yet..... I'll give you the Brooklyn bridge for free with no strings attached.
Woooosh is very naive and has a conflict of interest here. In Wooosh's case it's all about the beach front ocean view. He should just admit that.
The defense rests it's case:
From page 35 on this thread:
_______________________________________
Free hotel night from Raphael? You missed by a mile. He offered us a brand new condo building for free actually. Still may take him up on it
if it works to our mutual advantage. I hate to see that building just sit there empty and deteriorate. (btw: Raphael saved US investors from a $5
Million real estate scam by presenting a legal, stamped SRA payment receipt for the land under that condo tower. The seller claimed a clear land title
with title insurance. Raphael went toe to toe with Grupo Aries and they ran away and abandoned the building last July. So I'd say when Raphael is
right, he is right in a big way. It was impressive to me because so few Mexicans would or have acted to protect US investors here in Rosarito Beach.
None in fact, just him. )
[Edited on 3-25-2012 by JoeJustJoe]
|
|
|
Cypress
Elite Nomad
Posts: 7641
Registered: 3-12-2006
Location: on the bayou
Member Is Offline
Mood: undecided
|
|
Wooosh is defending his un-obstructed view of the Pacific Ocean. 
|
|
|
Woooosh
Banned
Posts: 5240
Registered: 1-28-2007
Location: Rosarito Beach
Member Is Offline
Mood: Luminescent Waves at Rosarito Beach
|
|
Yes, Cypress and JJJ it's true. And here's a legal point for you two. Mexicans who hold the title to oceanfront property have the legal right to a
concession to protect their view. Their LEGAL right. They are first in line for it if they apply, and if they don't apply it's their own fault. We
were proactive and applied when the first illegal condo tower went up out of three planned, surrounded by the ocean. If you guys have a problem with
that- talk to the Mexican gov't. You gonna give up your right to bear arms in the USA? Didn't think so.
If you want to talk about MY specific case, you are on the wrong thread. Go to OFF TOPIC and I will engage your silliness. All the facts have
already been covered on the Baja Real Estate Thread and there you contribute nothing to the legal questions being asked. You've clogged up both
threads when neither of you seem to know the basic real estate laws of Mexico.
I started an OFF-TOPIC Thread: Woooosh vs JJJ et al: Baja Real Estate.
[Edited on 3-25-2012 by Woooosh]
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
|
|
|
wessongroup
Platinum Nomad
Posts: 21152
Registered: 8-9-2009
Location: Mission Viejo
Member Is Offline
Mood: Suicide Hot line ... please hold
|
|
Cool will check it out... now THIS should be fun ..
|
|
|
Cypress
Elite Nomad
Posts: 7641
Registered: 3-12-2006
Location: on the bayou
Member Is Offline
Mood: undecided
|
|
Wooosh, Off topic?  Is that where you want to take this? The basic real estate
laws of Mexico?
|
|
|
Woooosh
Banned
Posts: 5240
Registered: 1-28-2007
Location: Rosarito Beach
Member Is Offline
Mood: Luminescent Waves at Rosarito Beach
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Wooosh, Off topic? Is that where you want to take this? The basic real estate
laws of Mexico? |
Many people posted this was not court or an appropriate place to post evidence. I don't agree, it's all educational and a hot topic. I'm willing to
put all the evidence and innuendo out there and let the Off Topic dark side be the jury. You have to be "Over 18" to log on and that is also the
password. No holding back over there and the underbelly of Baja Real Estate will indeed be exposed. Do you think Angel will continue to speak
through the hole of JoeJustJoe?
 
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
|
|
|
JoeJustJoe
Banned
Posts: 21045
Registered: 9-9-2010
Location: Occupied Aztlan
Member Is Offline
Mood: Mad as hell
|
|
| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by Cypress
Wooosh, What? You're the self-appointed arbitrator of Baja property disputes? All because you don't want your ocean view spoiled. Pretty transparent.
Doesn't take a psychic to see thru that one. My gut feeling, not a psychic, is you're backing a loser. You probably haven't ever been down to
Buenaventura or met Mark and Olivia, but that's OK. You're entitled to your opinion. Just wonder what you're basing it on. |
I'm just going to go back waiting for the dust to settle.
Why you demonize an ocean view? You'd have to be an idiot to let someone illegally seize land and build a condo tower in the Federal Zone in front of
you. Living in baja is all about the 24/7/365 connection to the ocean- not living in the shadow of a tower. I'm a conservationist of the beach for
the people without apology. I am also unapologetic for keeping USA investors from buying that property when it was illegally offered for sale as
having a legal land title. |
Nobody is demonizing an ocean view. What a few of us want you to do is come clean and admit your real estate fight is all about YOUR precious ocean
view.
You Woooosh tried to frame this is that you are the defender of Rosarito Beach beach for the Mexican handicap, the dogs, and for the Mexican people.
This is hogwash. Woooosh you're like any other rich white American fighting a boring fight over an ocean view in a beach community along the
California coast, except in your case. You're taking your battle to the Baja coast, and I doubt you're rich.
I don't even care if you defend Raphael your lawyer who is doing work for you, and possible business partner. I just want "Nomads" member to know that
you have a possible conflict of interest here. It's all about transparency Woooosh.
Woooosh have fun in the "OT" area. I may or may not post in that thread you started. But whenever you attack Tila Ortiz in public and she isn't here
to defend herself. You might hear from JoeJustJoe anywhere that attack occurs.
I understand your real estate fight is still in the courts, and even you Woooosh admitted in page 26 of the "Beenaventura" thread that "PROFEPA" is
still investigating.
|
|
|
Woooosh
Banned
Posts: 5240
Registered: 1-28-2007
Location: Rosarito Beach
Member Is Offline
Mood: Luminescent Waves at Rosarito Beach
|
|
I have cut and pasted the above post (and responded to it) in the OFF TOPIC forum.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
|
|
|
| Pages:
1
..
49
50
51
52
53
..
83 |
![[*]](images/xmbforum/default_icon.gif){kind=icon}
