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ramuma53
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Burb
I just caught you telling a public lie to Nomads.
You just said that my title is false. But my title is legally no longer in doubt.
Why?? Because Olivia denounced me before the Federal Police, telling them that I falsified my title and I was using a false document; two different
and heavy federal offenses; The Federal police (PGR) investigated and found that in fact my title is an official document issued by the Secretaria de
la Reforma Agraria (SRA) and signed by the Mexico’s President; They asked the issuing authority for a copy and The SRA sent an official certified copy
of my title and file to the Federal Police and then, at that point the Federal Police legally knew the Olivia’s accusations were false but following
legal procedure, then they asked Olivia to provide any legal proof she may have to prove her claims, she was legally notified and she did not provide
any but any legal proof, only her word; then the Federal Police dropped the charges against me as groundless and closed the file, sending notice to
the Santa Rosalia Public Registry that my title was blameless and a valid one.
THIS MEAN, THAT THIS IS AN INVESTIGATED CAUSE, THAT OLIVIA ACCEPTED THE RULING AND DID NOTHING AND AS A LEGAL CONSEQUENCE, IT IS A JUDGED FACT, IN
OTHER WORDS, A LEGAL TRUE SAYING THAT MY TITLE IS ORIGINAL, ISSUED BY THE PROPER AUTHORITY AND HAS FULL LEGAL POWER AGAINST OLIVIA.
Here, I just demonstrated that Burbs, alias Nark or Mark Jerome Burbey is a public liar trying to confuse public opinion named Nomads.
Case closed.
As always, I provide the legal proof of my writings.
I wonder why nobody ask the same to Nark alias Burby or Olivia Alias La Vaquera
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Does the president of your country always sign property documents? How does he have time to run Mexico if he must sign all legal documents?
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ramuma53
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Burb
I just caught you telling a public lie to Nomads.
You just said that my title is false. But my title is legally no longer in doubt.
Why?? Because Olivia denounced me before the Federal Police, telling them that I falsified my title and I was using a false document; two different
and heavy federal offenses; The Federal police (PGR) investigated and found that in fact my title is an official document issued by the Secretaria de
la Reforma Agraria (SRA) and signed by the Mexico’s President; They asked the issuing authority for a copy and The SRA sent an official certified copy
of my title and file to the Federal Police and then, at that point the Federal Police legally knew the Olivia’s accusations were false but following
legal procedure, then they asked Olivia to provide any legal proof she may have to prove her claims, she was legally notified and she did not provide
any but any legal proof, only her word; then the Federal Police dropped the charges against me as groundless and closed the file, sending notice to
the Santa Rosalia Public Registry that my title was blameless and a valid one.
THIS MEAN, THAT THIS IS AN INVESTIGATED CAUSE, THAT OLIVIA ACCEPTED THE RULING AND DID NOTHING AND AS A LEGAL CONSEQUENCE, IT IS A JUDGED FACT, IN
OTHER WORDS, A LEGAL TRUE SAYING THAT MY TITLE IS ORIGINAL, ISSUED BY THE PROPER AUTHORITY AND HAS FULL LEGAL POWER AGAINST OLIVIA.
Here, I just demonstrated that Burbs, alias Nark or Mark Jerome Burbey is a public liar trying to confuse public opinion named Nomads.
Case closed.
Also, I wonder, why nobldy ask Nark or Olivia for any kind of proof and just give their word a true status???
[Edited on 3-26-2012 by ramuma53]
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You are repeating yourself.
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ramuma53
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David K
You question naive facts, but I can answer them anyway.
Mexico's President in fact does not sign the titles, but he authorize the SRA State Secretary to sign them in his name and that is the signature you
find on my title, but it is the Mexico's Presidentr signature and authorization as required by law.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ramuma53
David K
You question naive facts, but I can answer them anyway.
Mexico's President in fact does not sign the titles, but he authorize the SRA State Secretary to sign them in his name and that is the signature you
find on my title, but it is the Mexico's Presidentr signature and authorization as required by law. |
What you said:
"The Federal police (PGR) investigated and found that in fact my title is an official document issued by the Secretaria de la Reforma Agraria (SRA)
and signed by the Mexico’s President;"
Now you are saying, a few minues later:
"Mexico's President in fact does not sign the titles..."
Thanks for the clarification... as I am sure the president of Mexico has a lot on his mind and helping you put Mark & Olivia out of business is
not one of his tasks.
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ramuma53
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David K
As a La Vaquera and Nark advocate you are doing a poor job, because you are not being objective and your intention is showing clearly, because this is
not a futile exercise, it is to educate people about what can happen in Mexico, What to expect when you own Real Estate in Mexico and how to solve
those problems if in fact you decide to buy Real Estate in Mexico.
This thread is not to decide who win, it is to show the process and how to differentiate crooks from good intentioned people and also how to
dedifferentiate crooks advocates intentions from legal facts.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ramuma53
Burb
I just caught you telling a public lie to Nomads.
You just said that my title is false. But my title is legally no longer in doubt.
Why?? Because Olivia denounced me before the Federal Police, telling them that I falsified my title and I was using a false document; two different
and heavy federal offenses; The Federal police (PGR) investigated and found that in fact my title is an official document issued by the Secretaria de
la Reforma Agraria (SRA) and signed by the Mexico’s President; They asked the issuing authority for a copy and The SRA sent an official certified copy
of my title and file to the Federal Police and then, at that point the Federal Police legally knew the Olivia’s accusations were false but following
legal procedure, then they asked Olivia to provide any legal proof she may have to prove her claims, she was legally notified and she did not provide
any but any legal proof, only her word; then the Federal Police dropped the charges against me as groundless and closed the file, sending notice to
the Santa Rosalia Public Registry that my title was blameless and a valid one.
THIS MEAN, THAT THIS IS AN INVESTIGATED CAUSE, THAT OLIVIA ACCEPTED THE RULING AND DID NOTHING AND AS A LEGAL CONSEQUENCE, IT IS A JUDGED FACT, IN
OTHER WORDS, A LEGAL TRUE SAYING THAT MY TITLE IS ORIGINAL, ISSUED BY THE PROPER AUTHORITY AND HAS FULL LEGAL POWER AGAINST OLIVIA.
Here, I just demonstrated that Burbs, alias Nark or Mark Jerome Burbey is a public liar trying to confuse public opinion named Nomads.
Case closed.
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you proved NOTHING!
i don't believe anything you post! your history of grandiose belligerence and your history of telling lies destroyed your integrity! no one believes
you! (well, woooosh believes you,... but only because you are involved in his own real estate mess)
i think only cowards use to guns to settle disputes!
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ramuma53
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Si se puede explicar esa carta en BajaNomads
Ese es un juicio que se ventilo ante el IFAI en la cual la SRA negó la información de mi expediente, pero al termino de ese juicio, el IFAI obligo a
la SRA a entregar copia certificada de mi expediente, terminado con el asunto de falsedad.
Por lo anterior la PGR archivo en definitiva la averiguación previa en mi contra.
Pueden seguir buscando formas de mal informar a Nomads, pero recuerden que yo tengo la razón y por lo tanto siempre los podre rebatir, asi que no
tienen esperanza de robar el terreno, solo están perdiendo su dinero en corrupción, pero la corrupción se combate legalmente y por eso han perdido
todo.
Creen que ganaron algo con recibir las 3 casas de manera irregular? Están equivocados y es solo cuestión de un juicio de nulidad del acta que les
entrego, asi que disfruten del poco tiempo que les dio esta aberración jurídica.
De: Tio Foncho [mailto:tiofoncho4u@gmail.com]
Enviado el: lunes, 26 de marzo de 2012 01:24 p.m.
Para: director@munoz-industries.com
Asunto: Playa Buenaventura
¿Por qué no se puede explicar esta carta en BajaNomads?
http://www.sra.gob.mx/sraweb/datastore/transparencia/resoluc...
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ramuma53
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mtgoat666
That is your main problem, you use no reason and see no proof where everybody can, but most Nomads do and you are very well identified as a no reason
Nark and La Vaquera advocate and that mean narcs advocate, turtle killers advocate, liars advocate.
My friend, to be able to convince somebody you need to show proof and documents as I do, I do not ask Nomads to be believed as a faith act, I show
legal proof while your advocacy does not show anything, only commission advocates to try to discredit legal documents with words, but words will never
convince anybody while documents show legal proof and can be verified by anybody who care.
Why don’t you ask Nark (Mark Jerome Burbey or Burby now) or La Vaquera (Maria Olivia Higuera Aguiilar) to show any but any document that show them as
property owners; ask them to show the document they used to convince the Estate District Attorney that they own a piece of land.
They can’t, they own nothing and the only cause the District Attorney did what he did is by breaking the law in benefit of an organized crime member.
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ramuma53
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Like this
[Edited on 3-26-2012 by ramuma53]
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ramuma53
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Concerning Wooosh
I have to deny that I am in business with him, but I would have no objections in doing it, because he is a honest person having some legal problems
very similar to the ones I am having and of course we consult each other about our similar problems and how to face them, but no we are not in
business together.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ramuma53
Concerning Wooosh
I have to deny that I am in business with him, but I would have no objections in doing it, because he is a honest person having some legal problems
very similar to the ones I am having and of course we consult each other about our similar problems and how to face them, but no we are not in
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I have never had to hire Raphael, we have mutual interests in Rosarito and our relationship is exactly as he states. I consider him a partner in the
Rancho La Costa Azul project in Rosarito because we share mutual goals and are working together to achieve them.
On his "Baja Real Estate Advice" thread, Raphael suggested his Federal Zone Expert, Eng. Daniel Martinez Chavira- might be interested in defending our
Federal Zone concession from a challenge by an aggressive squatter. By co-incidence he had created the concession map for us in 2005. I had also met
him two summers ago when he was surveying by my house for the Projecto Norte (Rosarito Malecon). We hired him over a year ago.
Raphael and Nomads have stopped $5.6 Million USD in Rosarito Beach real estate fraud specifically targeting US/Canadian investors. Those were direct
challenges to claims of clear land titles, title insurance or escrituas- when none existed. No one stopped investors from losing $30 Million at Trump
Baja, or anywhere else that I know of. It is Raphaels willingness to teach us what the Mexican real estate laws are and what a real Mexican land
title looks like. He is the only one doing this in English, for free, and right here on this board. I have seen him answer dozens of Nomads legal
questions about specific projects- never saying he has the ultimate answer, only that his insight might be helpful for investors to determine the
risk.
More important to me is the legitimate owner of the Rosarito coastline, Rancho La Costa Azul supports the Rosarito Malecon project and my beach
preservation and access efforts. In my Federal Zone dispute, Ranch La Costa Azul provided me with the document to prove if any private property still
existed around our concession, it was land they had already paid for in 1993 and had the SRA receipt and stamped map for. We presented those
documents to PROFEPA and ZOFEMAT in the defense of our concession. In Nov/2011 PROFEPA decided to sidestep the Rancho La Costa Azul claim and simply
declare all the area west of the street either Federal or Marine Zone. We were offered the ability to lease as much land from Rancho La Costa Azul
as we needed for our project until the Malecon goes in, for free. It is a generous offer by Raphael's team and we are still evaluating it. That's
the Raphael I know, and we work well together- but not for each other.
[Edited on 3-27-2012 by Woooosh]
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I talked to Olivia a couple of days ago at the grocery store. I didnt ask her for her papers, tho....none of my business. I guess if she wanted to
plaster them all over this site, she most likely would. No decision is going to be made here. Most likely when and if any decision IS made, none of us
will even know about it...
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On page 26 on this thread. Woooosh says he received a letter from the Director General of PROFEPA, and they are still investigating. Ms Ortiz has
legally challenged Wooosh's "concession." Ms Ortiz has charged that Wooosh and Alonzo fraudulently obtained their beach "concession.
Wooosh from this post seems upset, and blames some type of so-called " "Viva la Mexico" attitude for his setbacks and Woooosh continues in many
threads to bash the Mexican culture, and claims 'all" Mexicans have some type of "passive-aggressive attitude. Woooosh has even accused Ms Oritz, and
myself JoeJustJoe with this same passive-aggressive attitude! I wonder if Woooosh believes that Raphael has this same passive-aggressive culture and
inbred attitude?
Of course at the end of this rant Woooosh wrote below. He wants us to believe his land battle is ONLY to protect beach access for the disabled in
Rosarito.
Yeah right!
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Woooosh from page 26 from this thread:
Yes Wiley, my negative outlook is based only on my personal experience with the "system" the past four years. I got another letter from the Director
General of PROFEPA yesterday- same chit... they are still investigating. Investigating what exactly? We have a legal and valid concession to protect
the beach, yet a squatter with a "prescription positiva" has fenced half of it and declared it her private property with the support of all her
friends in local law enforcement. Why and how would I believe the system is better for anyone else after what we have experienced the past four years.
The biggest problem I have is all these authorities (PROFEPA, ZOFEMAT, SEMARNAT, PGJE) have a "Viva la Mexico" attitude but none of them respect a
valid land title being held by a Mexican citizen enough to protect and defend it. Who protects the legal rights of the good people in the right?
I believe Mexican authorities are tentative to act- because they don't want to step on the toes of anyone trying to help "a friend" who has more power
than they do. They all claim to love Mexico, but won't protect it from theft.
No one could have documented a case better than we have- with letters, photos and even videos viewed by over 5000 people. Yes we may win in the end-
but this battle has changed my opinion of Mexico. In the USA I never had a court official lie to my face or suggest a bribe. It happened her in
Rosarito Beach though. Even the ZOFEMAT office suggested I pay some money to "move things along". Our family does not pay and we find it repulsive-
because it prevents Mexico from progressing.
Luckily our land battle is only to protect beach access for the disabled in Rosarito. We aren't fighting for land under our house or anything like
that which this thread is about. We just wanted to do something nice for the community- and the underbelly of Mexican power and their shenanigans came
to our doorstep- we did not go looking for it. No good deed goes unpunished. The only way to win is not to play. After four years of fighting- even if
we win- we will have lost the respect we had for Mexican systems going into this. jmho.
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JoeJustJoe
Wooosh has similar problems with corruption, but we are talking about two of the most corrupt estates in Mexico, Baja North and South Baja; it not an
all Mexico generalization.
To denounce corruption in Mexico is not against Mexico, it is an act to try to correct corruption in Mexico; corruption need anonymity and silence; it
disappear when corruption acts are denounced and people are aware of it.
I am Mexican, I am not American, but my family is American, so we have to live in both worlds and try to make the best of them, my businesses are in
Mexico so I have to work in Mexico and correct Mexico’s problems, but my customers are Americans and they need a secure place to spend their golden
years; we are in relationship we cannot change, we are neighbors and we need to live with each other and work with each other.
You may say, I do not care about Mexico, I would not go to Mexico or buy Real Estate in Mexico, but then why are you here reading this?
We of course sometimes desperate, because instead of getting better, it seems that it is going worst; I was trying to protect the turtles by
denouncing a turtle killer and seller and I got authority aggression and constitutional rights violations; of course the system does not want to
change, but the turtles will disappear if we don’t stop selling the turtles a s soup.
Our attitude is not passive aggressive, it is active and that is what causes us problems with authority who want the status quo to just continue to
profit from selling turtle soup; it is not only Nark or La Vaquera business; they get illegal money and give it to public officials for protection and
they create and or maintain a corrupt system, but that system con not prosper and grow to infinity, because it create chaos, insecurity and extinction
for protected species.
The system as it is cannot go forever as the Chicago USA situation was not able to grow and continue forever; somebody had to stop it and that is
Mexico’s case now; the question is who want to do it???????????? Well I am trying and Wooosh certainly is trying.
You do not believe that Woooosh is doing it just to protect the beach?? Why not, there we have a building invading not only the beach but now it is in
the ocean and that is illegal, breaking the beach continuity; nobody else is complaining and he is doing it; why do you attack him and not the
building invading the beach????? Why do you attack me instead of the guys cooking the sea turtles and selling them as soup??????????????
You know drugs are killing our young and making trash out of them; why do you support the ones in the drug business?????????????
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ramuma53
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Chukie
You certainly sound like Eduardo Villa Arellano, but your English is better.
Olivia Higuera Aguilar alias La Vaquera, does not plaster her property papers all over the place because she has none.
It is clear here that she only has a rent contract with the Ejido La Purisima and as unavoidable consequence, her rented land must be inside Ejido La
Purisima and since it has been proved that Ejido La Purisima is not overlapped with my land, it is a legal true that her rented land is not inside my
property but that simple fact does not stop her from wanting to steal my property.
The fact that she has a restaurant named El Sargazo in Buenmaventura beach does not make her the owner, she has that restaurant inside Federal Zone,
that is not my property but Federal property and having a Federal Zone Concession does not make her the land owner, she is in fact only renting to the
Federal Government; she is only a renter of places, she own nothing and has no property papers at all.
You may say it does not concern you or that you will never know who win, but I tell you that it concern you because you live in Baja and what happen
to one can happen to anyone in Baja and nobody would want to have an Olivia and Nark couple as neighbors trying to steal your property without any
right. Then it may help you to know how to deal with that kind of problem in Baja, because as you see here, it is not at all uncommon.
You will certainly know here, because we are making the whole problem public so other know how the Mexican authority sometimes help crooks to steal
Real Estate in Baja, just to maintain the illegal trade, protected species and drugs.
Some may say, well I learned that I should not oppose criminals, but you will learn here that if you act, you will prevail and certainly you can
prevail in Mexico with the law on your side and that is what we are showing here.
This is a not yet finished story, because we are making the story today and we only think we can achieve a legal result or it may happen that the dark
side prevails, but I am willing to bet that I will prevail because I have the legality on my side.
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Sr. Munoz is it true that one of the documents that you have posted claims;
That it is a letter from a judge in the Agrarian Court to a judge in a Federal Court. The letter is dated April 21, 2010 and the Agrarian Court judge
is telling the Federal Court judge that he should dismiss Olivia's case for possession of the home owned by Ted and Cheryle Clinite because she does
not have any legal interest in it.
If this is true could you please tell me what the outcome of that letter is.
Mark has told us that he does not want the house and that we should come back and occupy it.
[Edited on 3-28-2012 by XPBRes]
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Ramuma, I never see you in the grocery store, or I would treat you the same way....How often do you get into Sauls?......
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| Quote: | Originally posted by XPBRes
Sr. Munoz is it true that one of the documents that you have posted claims;
That it is a letter from a judge in the Agrarian Court to a judge in a Federal Court. The letter is dated April 21, 2010 and the Agrarian Court judge
is telling the Federal Court judge that he should dismiss Olivia's case for possession of the home owned by Ted and Cheryle Clinite because she does
not have any legal interest in it.
If this is true could you please tell me what the outcome of that letter is.
Mark has told told us that he does not want the house and that we should come back and occupy it. |
Wouldn't that be a great ending?! You were the one who said this thread provided you more information that you had in ten years of actually living
it. I think the document confirmed the Ejido boundary is no longer in dispute. The Ejido maps/docs and Raphael's SRA map used the same points from
what I saw. It's never that simple though, there will be a few more legal steps. It is very generous of Mark to offer this to you before the
litigious dust settles. That's very rare anywhere, let alone down here.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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