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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 09:19 AM


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dont worry, he will have to denny the allegation to the criminal judge and that will be hard enough, because he was recognized by the child and her mother who where at her restaurant for 3 days.
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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 09:25 AM


BOY OH BOY!!!!!! This thread got so uhhhh "out there" that I stopped reading it about a month and a half ago. I just stopped in to see what " condition the condition was in", and WOW. It just keeps on "keepin on". Does this ramuma53 have some kind of illness, like Terrets or something. He seems to just keep making stuff up. He says something, gets proven wrong or false, and then comes back with something more outlandish. Oh well, that's entertainment. I'll be back next month to see what else he comes up with. Maybe he'll ceceed from Mexico and start his own UFO landing area, and get Darth to put the dark force hex on the Berbs or accuse them of doing it to him-----Yeah that's it, they are in cahoots with aliens to ruin his image.:lol::lol::lol:



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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 09:25 AM


ramuma53, Your batting average in the accusation dept., is what, 0 for 3? Keep slinging mud on the wall and hope something will stick?:?:
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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 09:29 AM


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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 09:42 AM


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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 09:49 AM


PROOF???

Where are the photos of drugs being off loaded (shouldn't be hard since you saw it happening so many times)?

Where are the photos of the Mexican navy anchored offshore (you told us was happening)?

Why do you not go to Baja California Sur anymore to work at 'your property' and take care of your employees? Is there a fear of being arrested for making so many false claims against a hard working couple who actually provide a service to tourists, and do the state some good?




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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 11:17 AM


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PROOF???

Where are the photos of drugs being off loaded (shouldn't be hard since you saw it happening so many times)?

Where are the photos of the Mexican navy anchored offshore (you told us was happening)?

Why do you not go to Baja California Sur anymore to work at 'your property' and take care of your employees? Is there a fear of being arrested for making so many false claims against a hard working couple who actually provide a service to tourists, and do the state some good?


David. Your going too far. You have no proof of your claims either.
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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 11:29 AM


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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 11:33 AM


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PROOF???

Where are the photos of drugs being off loaded (shouldn't be hard since you saw it happening so many times)?

Where are the photos of the Mexican navy anchored offshore (you told us was happening)?

Why do you not go to Baja California Sur anymore to work at 'your property' and take care of your employees? Is there a fear of being arrested for making so many false claims against a hard working couple who actually provide a service to tourists, and do the state some good?


David. Your going too far. You have no proof of your claims either.


Seriously Ralph, even in this thread you can't let go? I am the one asking for proof, as it is Muñoz who started this war against Mark and Olivia. Have you ever met Mark or Olivia, spent any time there... How about Muñoz, what proof do YOU have that he is anywhere near being truthful about anything?




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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 11:55 AM


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Originally posted by David K
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Originally posted by David K
PROOF???

Where are the photos of drugs being off loaded (shouldn't be hard since you saw it happening so many times)?

Where are the photos of the Mexican navy anchored offshore (you told us was happening)?

Why do you not go to Baja California Sur anymore to work at 'your property' and take care of your employees? Is there a fear of being arrested for making so many false claims against a hard working couple who actually provide a service to tourists, and do the state some good?


David. Your going too far. You have no proof of your claims either.


Seriously Ralph, even in this thread you can't let go? I am the one asking for proof, as it is Muñoz who started this war against Mark and Olivia. Have you ever met Mark or Olivia, spent any time there... How about Muñoz, what proof do YOU have that he is anywhere near being truthful about anything?


Yes I have met both of them. Food at Mark's and Munoz, well somewhere else. Unlike you, I am making no claims. Don't have a dog in this fight.

But seriously David, Your claims In your last paragraph go beyond asking for proof (although I wonder why) ? How do you know that Mark and Olivia do the State some god, and tourists don't seem to stop there much (can't blame them). How do you know that Munoz would be arrested.

Watching this might be entertaining, but taking sides with no proof of anything, anywhere could be dangerous.
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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 12:44 PM


I have to agree rts551.

Does Munoz go too far, yes. Is there proof? 10 years Munoz has told me that next week Olivia would be gone. He has made these claims and then makes excuses that his country is corrupt and justice is slow.

We had 15 years of patronage to the beach, restaurant and bar. We loved going there and enjoyed the company.

This has nothing to do with integrity or morality. None of these people have shown these qualities and it is well documented.

Over the years there have seen many posts as to the treatment at PB, most good but not all. I was overcharged for drinks and food, and I know many others had complained. We made the choice to go back and WE made it enjoyable.

My 20 years of involvement let me say these people are no victims, and I wish none of them harm. At some point this will end and things will go back to being the same. Then you will be on your own to make good decisions, sometimes you won’t make them. In the end you will have to answer for your actions!

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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 01:05 PM


I made no claims against Munoz, I just repeated what has been posted here for years now. He is not there, nor has been for some time, it seems.

The good that Mark & Olivia do for the state is being open for business, serving tourists, and not becoming a run-down blight on such a beautiful day as the motel has become.

I see no hate from Mark, but I see a ton from Munoz... Why this isn't clear to you is beyond me...

I can also feel comfortable with my opinion because of the posts by Pompano and photos taken there by him... He lives just up the highway. Why do you not see these as signs of good?




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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 01:24 PM


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I made no claims against Munoz, I just repeated what has been posted here for years now. He is not there, nor has been for some time, it seems.

The good that Mark & Olivia do for the state is being open for business, serving tourists, and not becoming a run-down blight on such a beautiful day as the motel has become.

I see no hate from Mark, but I see a ton from Munoz... Why this isn't clear to you is beyond me...

I can also feel comfortable with my opinion because of the posts by Pompano and photos taken there by him... He lives just up the highway. Why do you not see these as signs of good?


Like I said "I have no dog in this fight" Guess you do.

and as people who have lived there have said "This has nothing to do with integrity or morality. None of these people have shown these qualities and it is well documented."
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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 01:41 PM


Ramuna, ramuna, ramuna.....the turtle story didn't work, the drug story didn't work, you couldn't scare them away with guns and intimidation, and now the assault story...You just keep digging to the bottom of the barrel for whatever you can find to try and get rid of Mark & Olivia. It's as simple as that and should be clear to anyone who had the stamina to read all of your posts from day 1... They have something you want and you don't intend to stop bullying and harassing them until you get it. I am quite sure you never dreamed they would have the staying power and determination to actually last this long...given that you have used these tactics in the past with success... Keep posting away...I wish I could just laugh off your rants as the ridiculous drivel they are, but you are playing a very offensive game with people's lives in order to misappropriate something you have no claim to.
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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 02:14 PM


David K,

I think that Pompano is one of the best and greatest part of this board. If you notice he really doesn't offer an opinion.

I still don't understand what a beer and a hamburger have to do with a lease and 100's of thousands of US dollars spent and taken with no remorse. I have seen both sides in action and still don't see the difference.

That beach has some strange mojo, we use to think it's an Indian burial grounds, that might answer what has gone on there!
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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 02:37 PM


Or Space Alien burial grounds.lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::cool:

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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 03:45 PM


PROOF???

Where are the photos of drugs being off loaded (shouldn't be hard since you saw it happening so many times)?

Where are the photos of the Mexican navy anchored offshore (you told us was happening)?




David K's questions, particularly "where are photos", are valid to me.

The thought that the acuser should have photos to back up acusations has crossed my mind more than once. With so much "certainty" suggested by Ramuna as to drug traffic, and so much energy expended on his part on this entire topic, a little proof would do wonders to back up the acusations and give him some credibility, at least on this issue.

Surely if drugs were going into and out of this locale, for so many times as is the contention, that a complaint could be backed up with a little proof.
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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 04:11 PM
Like I said "I have no dog in this fight" Guess you do.


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[*] posted on 4-11-2012 at 08:54 PM


Hey, what hapened to Wooshes post?



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[*] posted on 4-12-2012 at 06:15 AM


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Hey, what hapened to Wooshes post?
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