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[*] posted on 4-13-2012 at 09:25 AM


Lobsterman,
as much as I think PB is a great beach, wind is a factor and a north wind is straight on the beach. Also great spot for fishing inside the bahia but along way to get outside to the sea.
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[*] posted on 4-13-2012 at 09:37 AM


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Obviously you are one of the American who rented a lot to Olivia alias La Vaquera and let me tell you this:
On your lease contract, Olivia clearly say she was renting to Ejido La Purisima and par of that los was rented to you and on Olivia rent contract, it is clearly said that the property rented on Km. 94.5 while Hotel San Buenaventura is on K, 93.8 and that is clearly 700 mts. south of the land Olivia rented to the Ejido. Why would you build on other people property when your location is clear???
As I remember, when I returned to Buenaventura after buying back the hotel from Roberto Meloni, you were being evicted by Olivia and not me; you were allowed to live in one of my houses and then after paying to me several months, you left without a word and without paying your last month’s rent to me.

My friend, I was not your enemy, Olivia and Nark were and as I remember, you left because the Federal Police asked you to use the house you were renting from me as a base to record the drug unloading on Oliva and nark el Sargazo Restaurant.

I do not deny that Oliva and Michael George and latter Nark (Burby sexual predator here) defrauded you, but you allowed them to do it based on a rent contract with the Ejido La Purisima clearly 700 mts. North of my property.

My only mistake with you was to allow you to live in my property and not doing what Olivia and Nark were already doing and that clearly show the difference between me and them.

Also, concerning my property, just look at this:
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[*] posted on 4-13-2012 at 09:38 AM


Lobsterman,
That's a long haul for triggerfish and pinto bass.:)
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[*] posted on 4-13-2012 at 09:40 AM


XPBRes
Obviously you are one of the Americans who rented a lot to Olivia alias La Vaquera and let me tell you this:

On your lease contract, Olivia clearly say she was renting to Ejido La Purisima and part of that lot was rented to you and on Olivia rent contract, it is clearly said that the property rented is on Km. 94.5 while Hotel San Buenaventura is on Km 93.8 and that is clearly 700 mts. south of the land Olivia rented to the Ejido. Why would you build on other people property when your location is clear???:?:

As I remember, when I returned to Buenaventura after buying back the hotel from Roberto Meloni, you were being evicted by Olivia and not me; you were allowed to live in one of my houses and then after paying to me several months rent, you left without a word and without paying your last month’s rent to me.:mad:

My friend, I was not your enemy, Olivia and Nark were and as I remember, you left because the Federal Police asked you to use the house you were renting from me as a base to record the drug unloading on Oliva and nark el Sargazo Restaurant.

I do not deny that Oliva and Michael George and latter Nark (Burby sexual predator here) defrauded you, but you allowed them to do it based on a rent contract with the Ejido La Purisima clearly 700 mts. North of my property.

My only mistake with you, was to allow you to live in my property and not doing what Olivia and Nark were already doing and that clearly show you the difference between me and them.:saint:

Concerning my property, you know my property right, that is why you were renting from me, just check this because you have a copy and you already checked it on the Public Registry:




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[*] posted on 4-13-2012 at 09:52 AM


Cypress
That one was a very intelligent question and one easy for me


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[*] posted on 4-13-2012 at 10:32 AM


Thank you so much for taking our money for more than 2 years and asking us to pay back rent. Then you ASKED US to use YOUR property for a sting operation, FRIEND.

All this has worked out so well for you. The PARADISE you promised us and the jail time for Olivia is just another week away???????????????

You did CON us and ruined our chance at enjoying our golden years in the Baja we use to love, THANK YOU FRIEND.

You have a way of being such a good friend when it serves your purpose. That was a Beach of Good Venture until you showed up!
Hope you can live with all the good you have done and the lives you have effected.

Yes I do feel that Mike & Olivia also mislead us. At least they gave us more than 10 years of enjoyment. You have only brought a darkness and the beach reflects that now!

I know you will continue with this fight but I don’t have a part in it anymore and the rest of the homeowners/renters are gone also. Another thing you can be so proud of.

GOODBYE FRIEND
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[*] posted on 4-13-2012 at 10:50 AM


Ok Cypress, you got your answer.
It now should be so easy for you to make a choice, cause you now have all the facts.
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[*] posted on 4-13-2012 at 11:58 AM


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Originally posted by XPBRes
Thank you so much for taking our money for more than 2 years and asking us to pay back rent. Then you ASKED US to use YOUR property for a sting operation, FRIEND.

All this has worked out so well for you. The PARADISE you promised us and the jail time for Olivia is just another week away???????????????

You did CON us and ruined our chance at enjoying our golden years in the Baja we use to love, THANK YOU FRIEND.

You have a way of being such a good friend when it serves your purpose. That was a Beach of Good Venture until you showed up!
Hope you can live with all the good you have done and the lives you have effected.

Yes I do feel that Mike & Olivia also mislead us. At least they gave us more than 10 years of enjoyment. You have only brought a darkness and the beach reflects that now!

I know you will continue with this fight but I don’t have a part in it anymore and the rest of the homeowners/renters are gone also. Another thing you can be so proud of.

GOODBYE FRIEND



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Originally posted by XPBRes
Thank you so much for taking our money for more than 2 years and asking us to pay back rent. Then you ASKED US to use YOUR property for a sting operation, FRIEND.

All this has worked out so well for you. The PARADISE you promised us and the jail time for Olivia is just another week away???????????????

You did CON us and ruined our chance at enjoying our golden years in the Baja we use to love, THANK YOU FRIEND.

You have a way of being such a good friend when it serves your purpose. That was a Beach of Good Venture until you showed up!
Hope you can live with all the good you have done and the lives you have effected.

Yes I do feel that Mike & Olivia also mislead us. At least they gave us more than 10 years of enjoyment. You have only brought a darkness and the beach reflects that now!

I know you will continue with this fight but I don’t have a part in it anymore and the rest of the homeowners/renters are gone also. Another thing you can be so proud of.

GOODBYE FRIEND



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[*] posted on 4-13-2012 at 01:19 PM


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You don't need to convince me. You need to convince the "Judge", whoever that might be.:D
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[*] posted on 4-13-2012 at 01:39 PM


I've read this entire thread, post by post...I couldn't care less who owns the property at Playa Buenaventura..I care about innocent Americans getting screwed over. Period. I have stayed at the hotel and enjoyed cold beers at the bar. But the fact is that the Americans that put down the cash to build or buy a house there got the shaft and all party's that had anything to do with them losing their dream are scum in my book...:mad:
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[*] posted on 4-13-2012 at 01:43 PM


BajaRun, Welcome aboard!
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[*] posted on 4-13-2012 at 01:45 PM


Thanks Cypress, I appreciate the welcome..:spingrin:
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[*] posted on 4-13-2012 at 01:54 PM


Yeah, there are no heroes here............only degrees of victims.

In many other countries, "official" documents might mean something.

In Mexico.............ummmmm, not so much.

This is the document that trumps all in Mexico. From Federal judges on down to the lowest municipal employee.




Isn't it absolutely STUNNING that this ownership battle could have gone on as long as it has, with conflicting "proofs of ownership" or "proof of rights" piled one on top of the other!!!




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[*] posted on 4-13-2012 at 02:00 PM


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Thank you DK..Sometimes a Prerunner Bronco, Sometimes a Prerunner Buggy and Sometimes a Polaris RZRs. Just depends on the trip intenary :cool:
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[*] posted on 4-13-2012 at 02:04 PM


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Yeah, there are no heroes here............only degrees of victims.


...and a villain or two, too...

also a few neutral and biased observers :lol:
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Yeah, there are no heroes here............only degrees of victims.


...and a villain or two, too...

also a few neutral and biased observers :lol:


Neutral? Those you can count on one hand. :biggrin:




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[*] posted on 4-13-2012 at 02:42 PM


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Take time to read, use your critical thinking and make up your mid without emotion.


thank you, newkid. we are all so emotional that none of us could have done that without your advice. perhaps you can head over to PB and lead the protagonists in some soothing yoga, eh?
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I've read this entire thread, post by post...I couldn't care less who owns the property at Playa Buenaventura..I care about innocent Americans getting screwed over. Period. I have stayed at the hotel and enjoyed cold beers at the bar. But the fact is that the Americans that put down the cash to build or buy a house there got the shaft and all party's that had anything to do with them losing their dream are scum in my book...:mad:


YES. Intelligence on this board. Finally
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