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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 04:45 PM


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You provided the phone detail.


The phone detail? :?:

Yeah so, I told you some of the details that Ted and I talked about on the phone. So what? Any human being with a heartbeat could do the same.


The first conversation betwen Ted and I took place this past weekend, just a few days ago, not a hundred years ago. Recalling the details of a phone conversation that took place only a few days ago is not the big deal you're making it out to be. What's your point?
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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 04:48 PM


You're making too big of an issue about meeting somebody over the phone.
You contacted the man over the phone
You introduced yourself over the phone
He introduced himself to you over the phone
You met him over the phone

This is a fantasy. You are doct.
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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 05:02 PM


Look people...What Ted experienced in Rosarito Beach took place only 2 short months ago, or so. I hope that sometime in the future Ted is able to grab the attention of someone in the print media. Someone like nationally syndicated columnist Ruben Navarrette. I told Ted about Ruben, which is one of the reasons why I contacted Ted by phone in the first place, to tell him about Ruben Navarrette, and a few other good sources that he didn't have listed.

Ruben Navarrette is published nationwide, is based out of San Diego, and has a very strong and vivid interest in what goes on in Mexico. He has a column in 175 newspapers around the country, including the San Diego Union Tribune. And IMO, he is a very fair minded man with a strong streak of humanity that appears to be consistent in his personality. I also admire Ruben Navarrette for his impartiality and fair mindedness he imparts in all of his columns.

Since Ted's matter is so new (2 months old), my one hope is that Navarrette decides to take on Ted's story and publish it for everyone to read. If he does, trust me, i'll be sure to come back and post the link to the article in this thread. That is, if the powers that be on this site decide not to lock this thread or delete it, which is always a possibility. Any thread that portrays Baja in a bad light may not be received well on a site like this because money is involved and it's a business. I understand that.

I've enjoyed reading Navarrette's columns over the years in the San Diego Union Tribune. And I once saw Navarrette on a show that had CNN's Lou Dobb's on it, so you better believe that Navarrette wields a little clout in the area of disseminating stories and garnering attention. Profiling Ted's story in one way or another just might just help Ted out.

And it would also tend to put Ted under a microspcope and expose any manipulation of truth. I mean, Navarrette is a journalist, and as such one would hope that he has the integral makings of a detective mixed into his personality. Right? Right. And if Ted was a fraud I would want to be the first ones to know about it.

Here's Mr. Navarrette's profile:

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/op-ed/navarrette/index.ht...



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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 05:17 PM


Navarrette is a good columnist, especially on the issues of the border but, I dont believe he will take on this issue as he has promised the world that he's going to do an extended exposé on the tooth fairy.
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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 05:21 PM


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You're making too big of an issue about meeting somebody over the phone.


In a way you're right. I can understand how it appears to look that way. But keep in mind, I just registered today, and I tell you, I've done enough posting on this issue to last a lifetime. What, 11 or 12 posts in one day? That's way too much posting for me!! I will not be back here tomorrow because I've spent to much time on this issue as it already is. And because answering to accusations like this is a great way to waste alot of time. And come tomorrow the "you're making it too big of an issue" tag won't fit because I'll be elsewhere.

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You contacted the man over the phone
You introduced yourself over the phone
He introduced himself to you over the phone
You met him over the phone





I agree, you're right about all of that.


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This is a fantasy. You are doct.



I don't feel comfortable calling him "doct" because I don't know what his credentials in the field of patient care is. I am not Ted. You're wrong about that. If I'm Ted than you're in some way associated with this site which is why you are tenaciously pursuing that angle of things. But then again maybe you have a crystal ball.
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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 05:21 PM


Another post from Dr. Z on TijuanaBlog:

http://www.tijuanablog.com/viewtopic.php?t=869&postdays=...

I noticed that "bluejeans" published an article that I had sent to "bluejeans" via "pm", is that forum ethical? And, what was the reasoning behind it? Furthermore, some people can't see the forest from the tree's, especially, when it comes to reading articles. I consider Nancy of the "Gringo Gazette" a person that is not afraid to print the truth. I, also, see where some blogers are proud of living in Mexico. Are you? Why would you want to live in a place where you have to hide all the time. A place where when you see a cop, you break out in a sweat because you don't know if he's going to shake you down or not. A place where they can come and take everything you have, anytime they want. What kind of a life is that. As for me, it was strickly for economical reasons that I found myself in Rosarito. Because, at the time, it was the only way that I could afford to start a clinic/hospice, which, incidentally, was encouraged by numerous doctors in the area that were looking for a larger place to practice. Personally, I love America. I'm a vet and proud of it. Nobody had to draft my ass when it came time to protect my country. I put my life on the line by my own choosing. And, I did it so that people could be free. Free to do things in pursuit of their own happiness. And, so that they didn't have to hide and keep a low profile to live, like in Mexico. Even though I've lost everything in Mexico, I look outside my motel room window, now, and I see America. And, it's one of the greatest feelings in the world. And, I will never stop until the wrong that was done me in Mexico is righted, regardless of any stupid derogatory remarks by people who have never walked in my shoes.
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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 05:23 PM


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Navarrette is a good columnist, especially on the issues of the border but, I dont believe he will take on this issue as he has promised the world that he's going to do an extended exposé on the tooth fairy.


There's that crystal ball thing again. Either that or you're a genius. :rolleyes:

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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 05:32 PM


Well, maybe I was wrong sackmeister.
You arn't doct. doct is you.
I'll try to pay attention to the ego split from now on.

You seem to be losing interest in your endeavor. Are you going to turn it over to another you any time soon?

Sybil is back.
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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 05:32 PM
Enter the shark


Ok folks take a deep breath.

. Following this issue has been entertaining if anything.
The way I see it is anything but educational. Although believeable the whole exchange is not easily accepted especially since certain pertainent questions remain unanswered.
From the sounds coming from the alleged victims' mouthpiece I find it extremely difficult to believe that that source cannot or will not answer those relevant question(s).
Especially considering that the mouthpiece knows very keen details of the victims life and events.
Obviously the whole story or parts of the story are known but not told. Accordingly, the story loses credibility.

When the question of hiring a U.S. lawyer to sue Mex was asked I wondered how with all the media, law, govt and other entities contacted would they not already know the answer. My guess is they never retained a Mex lawyer in the first place, which with all the stuff doc was engaged in, would be very prudent.

His operation possibly looked crooked to someone. He may be clean as a whistle. Perception is very important in Mexico.
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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 05:39 PM


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Sackmeister ----- I believe you are doct.


Two different I.P. address.
I have traced one.
The other comes up as untraceable.

Still working on it.
Going to call on a person with more sophisticated software than I have to see what he can do.


I think people should be allowed to retain their anonimity, and not be outed on this board. But, hey, if you own it, go ahead and do it.
But I'm gone for good.
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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 05:44 PM


Just trying to fully understand what's happening. It's a protection thing.
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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 05:50 PM


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I know that Ted is using a VOIP phone from his motel room in order to save money. Yes he has a cell phone, but if you expect to call him multiiple times, he'll furnish you with his VOIP number so he can save money on his cell phone bill and not eat up the minutes on it.


Voice Over Internet Protocol=High speed cable or DSL.....hmmmm.

$130. computer in a small hotel with slow dial up.....hmmmm.

Could it be- the sociopathic ego being rescued by the pathological alter-ego? Just wondering. Where can I sign up for the defense fund?

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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 05:52 PM


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I think people should be allowed to retain their anonimity, and not be outed on this board. But, hey, if you own it, go ahead and do it.
But I'm gone for good.


Too late, we already traced your IP address and found out who you really are, OJ.

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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 05:53 PM


Devilgoat is gone for good?:o
I've been reading this from the start and somtin seems fishy to say the LEAST. Seems that if a citizen of the USA was accosted the way he was there would be press jumping all over the story with all the crap happening on the border and Baja. Time will tell because if that happened to me I'd be going for head rolling and not stop until the press and TV were saturated with it....Hit em where it hurts and that's public humiliation.
Oh damn, we are talking about Mexico now aren't we? Start a new letter Jane....Dear Mr. Calderone....




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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 05:56 PM


Good post toneart
But, dontcha know schizophreniics and multiples are different?
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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 05:56 PM


Ditto what HoseA said about tracing IP addresses (as we all know, that's happened here numerous times -- fact of life). And by the way, whoever called Dr. Z's number (according to Sackmaster) is now part of the NSA's nationwide call log database. Uh, oh.

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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 06:00 PM


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all I did is try to help him and he would not even answer my emails. why dose he keep shooting him self in the foot? he dose his best to look like a scam so some people think it is. I bit on his hook and found out what he was really after.
He tells a good story but he wont back it up.:o
[Edited on 12-19-2006 by Bruce R Leech]


1) What makes you think that he's doing his best to make this look like a scam? Why do you think that he strives to make this look like a scam? SCAM is a very strong word, bro! Or were you being facetious?

2) How is it that you want to help him? What could you offer him?

3) If you're really concerned, and you really want to help him, why don't you call him on the phone to offer your help? Correct me if I'm wrong, but are you blowing smoke?

4) Do you have an aversion to talking to someone on the phone?

5) Why don't you call him on the phone and talk to him yourself?

6) Do you have a crystal ball?


Ted put his phone number out there so people like you (and me, or anyone else for that matter) could call him and talk to him one on one! You don't have to "offer him help" in order to talk to him on the phone. That's not a prerequisite! I don't know why he's not answering his emails, and it wouldn't be fair to make an assumption as to why he's not answering his emails. That would be like convicting someone of a crime based on an assumption and not fact. You don't know why he's not answering his emails unless you have a crystal ball.

There's something a little odd here. Everyone is asking for Ted's voice and yet no one is willing to call him even though they have his cell phone number. For some strange reason there are people in this thread who equate a telephone conversation with the deep french kissing of a rabid, 3-legged german shepard. Just like the 3-legged dogs that I always see roaming around Constitucion Avenue in TJ. What's with that? :rolleyes:



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he put his email address also and he or you who ever wont respond I m not going to wast my dime on this guy. it cost a lot to call from down here




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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 06:04 PM


DanO -----
That would be Baja Nomad, Doug Means, by his own admission on the 18th. Nothing was forthcoming.
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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 06:13 PM


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Good post toneart
But, dontcha know schizophreniics and multiples are different?


Sorry, I guess (the royal) "we" are getting too clinical.
I should rely more on my sense of smell. ;)




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[*] posted on 12-19-2006 at 06:13 PM


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DanO -----
That would be Baja Nomad, Doug Means, by his own admission on the 18th. Nothing was forthcoming.


Ahh, I had missed that one. Doug, anything further to report?




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