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Curt63
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They are on the move again now the sun is gone. It is only a brisk 97 in San Felipe. No more worries about the dog. Segunda stroller is brilliant.
Any Nomads have a large wheel jogging stroller to loan em? Im sure DavidK will come up with just the right tire configuration. 
They covered maybe 10 miles? today so far.
I'd say they are learning and adapting.
Maybe they'll spend tomorrow afternoon soaking in the ocean to their necks.
Who knows, they may make CSL in 100 days. Thats an honorable goal!
No worries
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Skipjack Joe
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Desert night hiking
Couldn't find anything really valuable on the web about hiking at night except that a headlamp is really useful.
As I recall scorpions come out of their holes at night (Sonoran Desert). Be extra careful when you finally bed down.
Hopefully you'll reach cooler shelter by morning somehow.
I checked the hourly forecast for San Felipe and you will have temperatures in the 70's (73-80) between midnight and 7AM. Even 8AM is 81. So that may
be of help to you.
Best of luck
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Desertbull
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This would help...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150818108318081&am...
DREAM IT! PLAN IT! LIVE IT!
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David K
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That's funny Tim... and then they should drop the air pressure 50% once off the pavement, right?
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Ateo
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They started bright and early today. Smart!
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Taco de Baja
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I see they skipped walking for 3.5 miles yesterday....
Walking at night may not help much. One of the hottest times in my life was trip to San Luis Gonzaga in June just after school let out for the summer
in the early 1980s. It was 110 at 10:00 at night with a 20 mph wind blowing from the west. It was like a blast furnace. The days were a little
hotter. This was one of the only trips we cancelled early as a kid because it was just too darn hot.
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goldhuntress
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Or else they forgot to turn it on.
[Edited on 5-15-2012 by goldhuntress]
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Taco de Baja
Walking at night may not help much. One of the hottest times in my life was trip to San Luis Gonzaga in June just after school let out for the summer
in the early 1980s. It was 110 at 10:00 at night with a 20 mph wind blowing from the west. It was like a blast furnace. The days were a little
hotter. This was one of the only trips we cancelled early as a kid because it was just too darn hot. |
We experienced that same thing in Gonzaga 2 summers ago. Although it did stop and cool down by midnight.
On the other hand right now you get mid 70's at night and mid/upper 90's during the day. But the humidity is in the 30's. After June the humidity will
be in the 90's and the night temps won't be much lower than day temps.
Anyway, they're still not really walking at night. Last night they walked 7PM-9PM and the temp was still 90 at 9PM. I suppose it may feel cooler if
the sun's rays are not on you. Today they started at 5:30AM but it's 80 by 8AM (they also took a 45min break during this prime time). It'll be 90 by
10AM. So, they could make it easier on themselves by quite a bit.
Another point is that there must be little joy in walking in darkness. Survival , yes. But I'm sure they want to see the landscape as well.
But, you're right. Once that humid air arrives into the gulf it will be over. Perhaps they planned to be in Cabo by then. That ain't gonna happen.
[Edited on 5-15-2012 by Skipjack Joe]
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Graham
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I'm not sure why anyone thinks I've been encouraging this trip. These are my first three posts on this thread....
"Wow! There's no way I'd ever want to do anything like that.
I'd take the short route over the mountains and enjoy a few cold beers on the way."
"I've got to admire the charitable intent and also wish them well ... but as described it sounds like it will be utterly miserable... even dangerous.
It would be challenge enough in the winter. Hope they consider amending that schedule."
"And actually, John did email me to ask my advice for a walk from San Felipe to Rosarito. I misunderstood... I thought he was suggesting a more direct
route. I only just found out how ambitious this will be.
I survived my trip because I was flexible enough to change coasts when temps got too brutal, and learned to sit up to my neck in the sea, take a few
days off when necessary, do my walking early and late, and avoid the midday sun like the plague. Even so I had my brushes with heat exhaustion and
semi-delirium."
Doesn't sound very encouraging to me. I hope they now switch to the Pacific and take two years if necessary. Whatever they do, I still wish them the
best of luck. And I'm so glad that Cai has been sent home.
[Edited on 5-15-2012 by Graham]
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John M
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Insanity is in the eyes of others
In two months I will be heading into Death Valley to support, and run with a woman who is taking part in the annual 135 mile Badwater to Mt. Whitney
foot race. And for the elite it IS a race, have no doubt about it.
These athletes prepare for and endure daytime temperatures above 120, pavement over 180 degrees. The winners finish under 24 hours of near-continuous
running.
There are extensive and scientific ways to prepare one's body for these temperature extremes.
The biggest challenge in Death Valley, and I would think to a greater degree in the summer in Baja is training your body to be able to process more
than 16 ounces of fluids per hour. It is not hard to ingest more but without training, the body cannot utilize these extra ounces and that alone can
cause severe problems. I do not know how much fluids they carry but I would venture to say that issues with a lack of fluids, such as blisters and
high heart rate will complicate this walk. We've studied heat stresses on the body, facts readily available via the internet, and I hope these folks
have done the same.
Best with your adventure.
John M
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goldhuntress
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I've figured that they have gone 9.3 miles so far today. Puertecitos is 15.4 miles from where they are right now. It's around 101 in San Felipe
according to a couple weather sites.
[Edited on 5-15-2012 by goldhuntress]
[Edited on 5-15-2012 by goldhuntress]
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Skipjack Joe
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They should be reaching Puertecitos within the hour. They started at 5AM this morning and doing quite well. Didn't walk last night at all.
It looks as though part of the journey is being done by car. Another gap appeared yesterday like the one Taco de Baja illustrated. A lot more miles
and it was during noon to 5PM. Perhaps they're afraid of falling off schedule too much.
[Edited on 5-16-2012 by Skipjack Joe]
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goldhuntress
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I don't see a gap. To me it just looks like they turned off tracking and just did a check in. There will be a straight line then from point A to point
B, it won't look like it's following the road. If they turn it off then on again at a certain point it will show a gap without any line to the point
where they turn it on again. It's confusing and hard to follow at times.
Edit spelling
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by goldhuntress
I don't see a gap. To me it just looks like they turned off tracking and just did a check in. There will be a straight line then from point A to point
B, it won't look like it's following the road. If they turn it off then on again at a certain point it will show a gap without any line to the point
where they turn it on again. It's confusing and hard to follow at times.
Edit spelling
[Edited on 5-16-2012 by goldhuntress] |
The gap is after #22 at the very top, a mile or two past El Coloradito... and then the tracking begins again at Arroyo Matomi...
[Edited on 5-16-2012 by David K]
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Skipjack Joe
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They did a checkin at 10AM and another checkin at 5PM followed by tracking. There was no tracking between the 2 points even though they covered about
5 miles in temperatures well over 90. That's unlikely. There has been no previous tracking in that kind of heat at that time of day. It's very
unlikely they walked those 5 miles. I'm not judging them or making any conclusions. Just reporting on what's likely happened.
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Taco de Baja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
The gap is after #22 at the very top, a mile or two past El Coloradito... and then the tracking begins again at Arroyo Matomi...
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This is probably their walk last night between ~7pm and 9pm. But, at a little over 5 miles that is a fast walk.
Forgetting to turn on the Spot several nights in a row is troubling....We'll see if this is a pattern. Perhaps this is a small sign that "desert
madness" is setting in. Although, desert madness usually manifests itself after being in the heat too long, not after a rest period; so who knows.
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Skipjack Joe
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The Matomi checkin was at 5PM (the end of the gap). There was no walking that evening. This morning's walk starts from last night's 5PM checkin spot.
Looks like their (they're. I seem to be making this mistake regularly now) continuing right past Puertecitos this morning.
[Edited on 5-16-2012 by Skipjack Joe]
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goldhuntress
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I was just looking at the spot manual and it looks like the tracking stays on for 24 hours at a time then I assume you have to reset it. Also, when
you send a check in it suspends tracking then resumes automatically. The batteries last 4.5 days with the tracking on. So maybe they walked when it
was hot and the tracking went off. Just me being optimistic. They are doing very well today! So far it is much cooler then it has been.
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Skipjack Joe
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| Quote: | Originally posted by goldhuntress
They are doing very well today! So far it is much cooler then it has been. |
Yes, they are. I think they've hit their stride. Gotten the kinks out of the system.
As you say it is cooler today. Normally it reaches 90 by 10AM but today it may be 11 or even noon. Today's high is 93 and tomorrow and day after will
be 91.
There were some marvelous coves just south of Puertecitos that I was sure they would choose as camping spots but they're still walking.
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goldhuntress
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Looks like a well deserved break at the beach. Good for them. They are approx. 4.8 miles south of Puertecitos. They
walked 14.4 miles so far today. San Felipe is 102 to 106 right now, depending which site you look at, ouch!
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