I was directed back to an El Vigia article I skimmed yesterday, and saw there was an idea proposed to build a detour from Salsipuedes across to the
free road - that the travel on the free road would then be only 10km, instead of 45km (and the gov't could collect more in toll fees of course).
If you look at the map from above, it's not that far. The elevation gain is another question. The person that proposed this idea said something like
30 or 45 days to put it into place.
When I was young, I admired clever people. Now that I am old, I admire kind people.
– Rabbi Abraham Joshua Heschel
We know we must go back if we live, and we don`t know why.
– John Steinbeck, Log from the Sea of Cortez
Road should have never been built IMHO. It was 'scenic' while it lasted.
Salsipuedes - get out while you can.
I would love to see the interview with the driver of the semi truck. Me thinks he has story to tell the grandkids.
El Mirador was built without proper paperwork.
Paperwork? We don't need no stinkin' paperwork!
I drove past that place nearly every week from 1992-2000, occasionally at night, and never understood when or if it would be open for Business. I had
nightmares about that curve and the steep descent to the now departed stretch of road far below. Narrow, dark and little room for error or second
chances.
That stretch of highway has Such a great view, yet so little planning...
[Edited on 12-30-2013 by Whale-ista]
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
Originally posted by elgatoloco
I would love to see the interview with the driver of the semi truck.
“Un vadito como de 10 centímetros, pero ya a la hora de subir a este lado, ya estaba como de 60 centímetros, entonces, había unos troques más
atrás de nosotros, venían vacíos, ellos se pudieron echar para atrás, yo ya no pude”, manifestó el conductor del camión, Gabriel González.
I updated the map with the proposed alternative. It goes from the dirt road east of the Bajamar bridge inland and connects with an existing dirt road
that comes out at the turnoff for Greater Metropolitan Santa Rosa, about half a mile north of the turnoff for El Tigre. It's a great idea; there's not
much road to be built, and the rest could be paved (or not, oh Mexico). If they did pave it, it'd be a great permanent route in to the Valle.
Dasubergreek,
Thanks for your map. Did you site a source in an earlier post/thread? The east end of the proposed alternative detour on your map paves through
Rancho Las Chichihuas, located near the top of the last hill climbing south on Free Road.
At least part of the paving is done, as Las Chichihuas looks like they have a nice tennis court.
Bajanomad, you are correct on your Cuatro Cuatros location. Their property(according to my last tour their in Nov 2013) extends all the way from Free
Road to Toll Road.
My drive yesterday(Sunday) from La Mision to toll booth/Hwy1 detour was 45 minutes in moderate traffic. That trip usually takes me 35 minutes, but a
motorcycle ride of approx 12 riders with police escort bogged it down a tad. Lots of new pavement on Free Road makes it ez.
Only quirk was the rerouting U turn at the end southbound. I was directed on a 200m jog north toward the toll booth, then U turn south. Either they
are working on that bridge or the tiendas and restaurants(San Miguel and Boules) paid someone to create the detour toward their businesses.
The Portugese bend is in South Los Angeles area, about 2 miles west of the Trump golf course, Palos Verdes Peninsula. Thre were six houses in the area
that slid down about 300' towards the ocean.
Quote:
Originally posted by BajaBlanca
What's the Portuguese bend?
Originally posted by BajaNomad
I was directed back to an El Vigia article I skimmed yesterday, and saw there was an idea proposed to build a detour from Salsipuedes across to the
free road - that the travel on the free road would then be only 10km, instead of 45km (and the gov't could collect more in toll fees of course).
If you look at the map from above, it's not that far. The elevation gain is another question. The person that proposed this idea said something like
30 or 45 days to put it into place.
That's good Ken, even before the recent slide, you can see the bulge into the Pacific where it has been dropping the past 10 years. See if you can
bring up a new satellite image of the same spot.
Geez. We are into whale season. In addition to the inveterate that drive the trip on their own, there are a bunch of tour companies that take folks
down from the US. The whales might be lonely this year.
Hwy. 1-D isn't the only road to Ensenada (or points south). If anyone wants to go to Baja, they won't let a detour or a different highway affect them,
will they?
Well.......that was our planned route the end of January as we head again to La Paz. I will be watching this thread
closely for alternate updates. I have appreciated the pictures and information so far.
We'll be crossing at SY in about 2 weeks. I'm looking forward to driving the Libre detour, although I'll miss that pretty view from the Cuota.
What's a Baja trip without a little adventure and a chance to see something new? It sure beats waiting for a week at my cousin's house in South
Pasadena for the detours to be built after the bridges are washed out at El Rosario and Vicente Guerrero like few years ago, or duct taping the doors
and being pulled through the flooding aroyos with a bulldozer.
Originally posted by bajarich
We'll be crossing at SY in about 2 weeks. I'm looking forward to driving the Libre detour, although I'll miss that pretty view from the Cuota.
What's a Baja trip without a little adventure and a chance to see something new? It sure beats waiting for a week at my cousin's house in South
Pasadena for the detours to be built after the bridges are washed out at El Rosario and Vicente Guerrero like few years ago, or duct taping the doors
and being pulled through the flooding aroyos with a bulldozer.
But it might take you an extra 15 minutes!!!
Seriously, it is a beautiful drive. I remember about 5 years ago in March, all streams were flowing, all dams full and even some ranches cut off by
all the water. Green as could be, I enjoyed every minute!! And BTW--- my choice to take that road, just to take that road!!
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