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Quote: Originally posted by wessongroup  | "Bagemihl's research shows that homosexual behavior, not necessarily sex"
That is a significant difference, "behavior" opposed to sexual reproduction and/or sexual contact
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Now I know how to classify groups like the Hell's Angels and all men who hang out in beer bars. Must be a homo thing.
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| Quote: Originally posted by motoged |
Kinda like the old white male privilege thing....folks feeling usurped by the presence of those who don't fit in the rut of "normalcy".
[Edited on 9-28-2016 by motoged] |
Much of this discussion, and today's politics in general, make me embarrassed
to be part of the older white male demographic.
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH |
I'm not sure the ability to distinguish between right and wrong is limited to homosapiens. I think people give other higher ordered animals' mental
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Acceptable--Unacceptable would be more appropriate terms for lower animal, but we shouldn't call it a "pecker order."
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| Quote: Originally posted by KurtG | | Quote: Originally posted by motoged |
Kinda like the old white male privilege thing....folks feeling usurped by the presence of those who don't fit in the rut of "normalcy".
[Edited on 9-28-2016 by motoged] |
Much of this discussion, and today's politics in general, make me embarrassed
to be part of the older white male demographic. |
I think that's the basis of this..uh...discussion, Kurt. Now you can change this. Start with a sassy little black dress.
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| Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS | | Quote: Originally posted by wessongroup | "Bagemihl's research shows that homosexual behavior, not necessarily sex"
That is a significant difference, "behavior" opposed to sexual reproduction and/or sexual contact
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Now I know how to classify groups like the Hell's Angels and all men who hang out in beer bars. Must be a homo thing. |
Dennis,
Be careful....when sitting at the bar with other guys telling fishing stories, off-road stories, "I coulda been a contender" stories, and even
discussing lost missions....wouldn't want others to think you are gay now, would you? And spending all that time at Anthony's may backfire ....again.
Don't believe everything you think....
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Ewe'r onto something here, Ged. Ya see, I don't care what people think of me, unlike the gays and their p-nut gallery.
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| Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS |
I think that's the basis of this..uh...discussion, Kurt. Now you can change this. Start with a sassy little black dress. |
Nah, the little black dress makes my butt look big.
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | There are animal societies and the word "person" isn't limited to humans.
Also what is understood to be true today by the majority of people, "ain't necessarily so".
For example, not long ago people thought there were multiple gods, now most believe in one god. That belief is moving in the right direction.
Animals with a moral compass:
http://www.livescience.com/24800-animals-emotions-morality.h...
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One could then ask ... do ethics also exist in ALL animals populations .... which would also seem remote
As the concept of "Morality" is typically not associated with other vertebrates and invertebrates ... and Social Behavior would not be the same as
Morality and/or Ethics when studying animal populations
"Cooperation and sociality are widespread in animals. Seemingly altruistic behaviors, like raising the offspring of others instead of trying to
reproduce, can largely be explained by the shared genetic heritage between interacting individuals. Most complex animal societies are actually
families in which group members are related and therefore share a high proportion of their genes. The cooperative and often complex collective action
that arises from such family groups is a product of the interaction of individuals seeking to maximize their own evolutionary fitness.
"Genetic structure clearly influences the evolution of animal sociality. But do genes themselves influence an individual’s altruistic behavior? As new
genomic tools become available, one of the challenges in the study of animal societies will be to determine how, and to what extent, individual genes
underlie social behavior. For example, recent studies in wasps suggest that differences in the expression of a relatively small number of genes may be
linked to large social differences in closely related species (Toth et al. 2007). Over the next decade, new research may determine if similar genetic
mechanisms underlie social behavior in different types of species, including both invertebrates and vertebrates."
http://www.nature.com/scitable/knowledge/library/cooperation...
Perhaps some are viewing this topic from the standpoint of Anthropomorphism ... or even Lamarckism to some degree
btw the implication of the impact of genetics on behavior ... may give some concerns ... As that is viewed by many as racist ... that is to say ...
Behavior is learned and is not transmitted by gene's which would appear to be incorrect
Have always enjoyed studying animal behavior .... a very interesting field of study which can provide additional knowledge in understanding how we
"make a living" on this planet
Perhaps that is what is going on at Anthony's ... the study of animal behavior
[Edited on 9-28-2016 by wessongroup]
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One could then ask ... do ethics also exist in ALL animals populations
I think it's logical to assume the larger the brain of an animal the more complicated the mental capabilities.
Although, as exhibited every day in the news, capabilities are often not realized. 
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Survival and power are the only animal instincts relevant to this discussion.
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What "some" may think of ME .......................
............Or Anyone Else, is unimportant.
I'M satisfied with my reasoning AND conclusions.
The opinions of others who disagree ARE Defective.
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Thanks Dennis.....what would we do without your leadership....oh, I remember....you don't care.....what others think.
Don't believe everything you think....
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Right. I don't...and won't.
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| Quote: Originally posted by wessongroup | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | There are animal societies and the word "person" isn't limited to humans.
[Edited on 9-28-2016 by SFandH] |
One could then ask ... do ethics also exist in ALL animals populations .... which would also seem remote
Have always enjoyed studying animal behavior .... a very interesting field of study which can provide additional knowledge in understanding how we
"make a living" on this planet
[Edited on 9-28-2016 by wessongroup] |
Field studies
David
Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious.
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| Quote: Originally posted by DENNIS |
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Not buyin' any of it. Creature companionship other than human, is unrestricted by social mores that are part of an advanced species.
Gay bugs? Queer fish? Pure BS. |
Not sure I follow your thinking--so gay is only gay if you have morals in society that call it so? Where did the taboos come from? Likely
Judeo/Christian/Islam Abrahamic traditions from long ago--is that what you are basing your beliefs on? What was their motivation for such rules? Are
those situations still an issue in the modern day?
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Nothin like any of that. I'm just sayin' bugs and worms etc arn't gay, and that's the ridiculous idea behind this nonsense. They're attracted to
any sex creature of their own kind for reasons of their own...probably security, bonding as the research mentions, and probably have no idea of sex
differences, but gay? Attracted to another of the same sex by choice even? C'mon.
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Bugs and Worms .....................
Also eat S-hit, don't they ?
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Bill Bill Billy...
There you go again. No matter how hard you try, no matter the conversation, your nose and observations end up somewhere in the vicinity of a male
buttocks. I could scroll back through dozens of postings through the years...and you always "end" up there.
You have never talked about the joys and wonderment of the female body...yet...
D'OH!!!!
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Study: As a species, humans inherit murderous tendencies
The study looks at violence through the lens of phylogenetics — the study of evolutionary relationships, or how closely related species seem to share
common traits.
http://www.petoskeynews.com/news/nation/study-as-a-species-h...
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MALE BUTTOCKS ?
Girls don't S-hit ?
HM ?
It appears that redhilltown has the Boy Butt fixation.
Those Buggers DO like to stick together, don't they ?
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