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[*] posted on 6-29-2020 at 04:55 PM


Ken---------I cannot access that article without a subscription to that newspaper.
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[*] posted on 6-29-2020 at 05:07 PM
Nicely done to both of you


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Thank you for apologizing, David. Now, I don't feel as angry as I have felt after trying to figure out your words and motives. Take care of yourself and your family.


OK
Everyone else go back to the slime toss.....
At least two good guys are back in some form of harmony....
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[*] posted on 6-29-2020 at 05:36 PM


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Ken---------I cannot access that article without a subscription to that newspaper.
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Delete your mercurynews.com cookies in your browser settings. It appears you've reached your monthly limit of free article access. Delete the cookie(s), and this will reset.

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[*] posted on 6-29-2020 at 06:34 PM


Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad  
Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
Ken---------I cannot access that article without a subscription to that newspaper.
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Delete your mercurynews.com cookies in your browser settings. It appears you've reached your monthly limit of free article access. Delete the cookie(s), and this will reset.

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Thank you, Doug. I am not sure what you mean but I will try my best to accomplish what you say. I don't know anything about "cookies" (or "browers") other than they are great to eat, normally.

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[*] posted on 6-29-2020 at 06:42 PM


An interesting point made in the "comments" on a site

“So, I have made my mission to protect that statue. Why not put a sign there that says why it’s there. Our Jewish brothers and sisters around the world have monuments to the Holocaust. In Germany, they even having existing concentration camps for [people] to come in and see. This means that they cannot deny what happened because there are Holocaust deniers. If you remove all evidence of slavery, it’s like it never happened. That’s exactly what’s happening. Let it stand, put up another statue with signage.”



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[*] posted on 6-29-2020 at 06:43 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
Quote: Originally posted by BajaNomad  
Quote: Originally posted by Barry A.  
Ken---------I cannot access that article without a subscription to that newspaper.
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Delete your mercurynews.com cookies in your browser settings. It appears you've reached your monthly limit of free article access. Delete the cookie(s), and this will reset.

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Thank you, Doug. I am not sure what you mean but I will try my best to accomplish what you say. I don't know anything about "cookies" (or "browers") other than they are great to eat, normally.



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[*] posted on 6-29-2020 at 07:32 PM


Thanks for the tip Goat! With Microsoft edge, I was able to right click on the link, then open it in a "private window".



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[*] posted on 6-29-2020 at 08:55 PM


Quote: Originally posted by wessongroup  
An interesting point made in the "comments" on a site

“So, I have made my mission to protect that statue. Why not put a sign there that says why it’s there. Our Jewish brothers and sisters around the world have monuments to the Holocaust. In Germany, they even having existing concentration camps for [people] to come in and see. This means that they cannot deny what happened because there are Holocaust deniers. If you remove all evidence of slavery, it’s like it never happened. That’s exactly what’s happening. Let it stand, put up another statue with signage.”



[Edited on 6-30-2020 by wessongroup]


That is the take away here. History will be doomed to repeat itself if we forget the bad lessons that have already been learned.

But unfortunately, some are too soft to handle the brutal reality of our history. They would prefer to erase it. At least they wont have to see it repeated in their lifetime. Screw the next generations. Lets spare the feelings of the here and now.

Sad but true.
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[*] posted on 6-29-2020 at 09:04 PM


I posted this on Facebook:

We are not erasing history by removing statues.

We are ending a celebration of genocide.
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[*] posted on 6-29-2020 at 09:19 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke  
I posted this on Facebook:

We are not erasing history by removing statues.

We are ending a celebration of genocide.


I Respectfully disagree. I have never celebrated genocide. On the contrary. I am glad I have had the opportunity to study it and respect the sacrifices that have been made for the freedom of ALL Americans. We are very, very fortunate.
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[*] posted on 6-29-2020 at 09:26 PM
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[*] posted on 6-29-2020 at 09:45 PM


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Looks similar to what I saw with people burning police cars and police stations. Not the way to do it. But time will tell what happens here in the end. I hope for the best for ALL Americans.
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[*] posted on 6-29-2020 at 09:54 PM
A Catholic perspective


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[*] posted on 6-29-2020 at 10:47 PM


Anyone have any ideas how this will all end?

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[*] posted on 6-29-2020 at 11:31 PM


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Anyone have any ideas how this will all end? ...


Here is one view:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQRzxEobWco




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[*] posted on 6-30-2020 at 09:25 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke  
I posted this on Facebook:

We are not erasing history by removing statues.

We are ending a celebration of genocide.


well said Ken!
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[*] posted on 6-30-2020 at 09:41 AM


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Quote: Originally posted by LancairDriver  
Anyone have any ideas how this will all end? ...


Here is one view:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQRzxEobWco

yikes! thats some harsh observations, and sadly, likely to be spot on. thanks for the link.

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[*] posted on 6-30-2020 at 11:01 AM
Not the way to do it?


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Looks similar to what I saw with people burning police cars and police stations. Not the way to do it. But time will tell what happens here in the end. I hope for the best for ALL Americans.


Taking the knee at NFL games was also stated as, "Not the way to do it." So, if non-violent, silent protest is, "Not the way to do it" and not setting your children atop a topled Serra statue is, "Not the way to do it", then what is the "right way"? for urgent, social/structural change?
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[*] posted on 6-30-2020 at 01:02 PM


Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke  
Quote: Originally posted by Tioloco  
Quote: Originally posted by Ken Cooke  


Looks similar to what I saw with people burning police cars and police stations. Not the way to do it. But time will tell what happens here in the end. I hope for the best for ALL Americans.


Taking the knee at NFL games was also stated as, "Not the way to do it." So, if non-violent, silent protest is, "Not the way to do it" and not setting your children atop a topled Serra statue is, "Not the way to do it", then what is the "right way"? for urgent, social/structural change?


won't solve anything Ken but its a start!:yes:




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