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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 01:10 PM


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Ok, border is clear, the protestors have left and there was no confrontation with police

Too bad.
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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 01:11 PM
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Ok, border is clear, the protestors have left and there was no confrontation with police


That's it...three hours???

I'd be willing to take up a collection if they extended through Sunday.




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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 01:11 PM


The Mexican government allows this sort of thing to go on because it makes the participants feel like they are actually doing something, when wink wink everyone knows nothing is going to come of it. :lol: Why do you think the police don't get involved? The US diverted traffic because they knew it is the policy of the Mexican government to just kind of let these things blow over. Some things about the Mexican legal system, I really like.



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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 01:15 PM


They let them do this because they would rather have them blow off steam in an organised way than start a serious revolt.
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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 01:30 PM
Protest that closed border crossing winds down


Protest that closed border crossing winds down





By Steve Schmidt, Karen Kucher and Anna Cearley
UNION-TRIBUNE STAFF WRITERS

12:40 p.m. August 31, 2007



Associated Press

SAN DIEGO – A teachers union demonstration in Tijuana that had led to highway closures between San Diego and Tijuana was winding down about noon Friday.
All southbound lanes on interstates 5 and 805, south of state Route 905, remained closed while authorities waited for demonstrators to clear out, the CHP reported.

By 12:30 p.m., northbound lanes into San Ysidro were open. All lanes were expected to reopen by 1:30 p.m.

Hundreds of schoolteachers – chanting and singing protest songs – staged union demonstrations near the San Ysidro and Otay Mesa ports of entry, rallying against changes in the Mexican government's employee pension plans.

CHP Officer Rob Sanchez said the lanes were closed because Mexican government officials closed the border to southbound traffic.

“They've shut their border crossing on their side. They are not allowing traffic in,” he said. “In order to avoid the bottleneck at our port of entry, we have closed the traffic lanes and steered everyone away from it.”

Southbound I-5 traffic was being routed east to state Route 905 and north on I-805, the CHP said. Vehicles on southbound I-805 were directed west on 905 and then north on I-5.

“With the shut-down going on this long, we would expect the traffic to be extremely heavy once (the ports) open again,” Sanchez said.

In San Ysidro, it was still possible to cross the border by foot, and the San Diego Trolley continued to run trains to the area.

Sanchez said truck traffic heading into the United States at the Otay Mesa processing facility was not affected. He said the Tecate border crossing remained open.

Victor Manuel Zatarain, Tijuana's police chief, estimated that about 1,000 teachers union demonstrators were near the San Ysidro border crossing and 500 at Otay Mesa.

Early morning Tijuana radio reports described the normally congested San Ysidro crossing as virtually empty, as commuters and other crossers stayed away.

On the north side of the border, San Ysidro Chamber of Commerce president Jason Wells said streets normally bustling with shoppers from Mexico were unusually quiet.

“It's not quite deserted, but traffic is greatly diminished,” Wells said. “It's not quite a ghost town yet, but it certainly is low.” An average of about 150,000 people a day cross at the San Ysidro port of entry.

In June, thousands of protesting teachers from Mexico shut down north- and southbound traffic at San Ysidro for several hours.
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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 01:39 PM


If the Mexican gov. paid them what the were worth, you needy people would not be unconvinced.

In NAFTA vernacular teachers are subsidized for what they do. Just another drag on the economy.

GO TEACHERS! shut it down. :cool::cool::cool:

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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 01:48 PM


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They let them do this because they would rather have them blow off steam in an organised way than start a serious revolt.


When I first started going to Baja, I thought that was because of 3$ cases of beer, and cheap gas.:lol::lol:




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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 01:52 PM


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Why do you think the police don't get involved? The US diverted traffic because they knew it is the policy of the Mexican government to just kind of let these things blow over. Some things about the Mexican legal system, I really like.


What happened to US?:(

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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 01:53 PM


Just finished a round trip from Jamul to San Diego and back.

Used 94 both ways and I got to say it was the lightest traffic around town and on the highway I've seen in years.

I wonder if any of the news agencies will pick up on this fact and discuss the impact of an open border on traffic congestion in Socal

Hope they hold more protests to close the border:lol:
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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 02:07 PM
It's too...


damn hot to protest.



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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 02:07 PM


Bajalero.......

From what I know about the 94, the Border Patrol are a large share of the traffic and, by far, the most dangerous. I used to live in Vita Springs Park, next to the AM-PM in Jamul.
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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 02:09 PM


I'm protesting the heat.
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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 02:14 PM


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I'm protesting the heat.


To whom? I'll join.
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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 03:05 PM


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Bajalero.......

From what I know about the 94, the Border Patrol are a large share of the traffic and, by far, the most dangerous. I used to live in Vita Springs Park, next to the AM-PM in Jamul.



Dennis , you got that right . It's bad enough running the gauntlet of Mexicans in a hurry to and from Tecate without the BP adding to the mess. One about took me out at the Dulzura cafe corner while passing in a chase.

You'd think they'd just use Motorola
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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 03:10 PM


They drive crazy on that road. They did some serious life-long damage to my neighbors son with their careless driving. I mean, what's the rush? Are they afraid they're all going after the last illegal?
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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 03:35 PM


Sorry about your neighbors son. Their presence(BP) is necessary but they shouldn't be adversely affecting saftey themselves

94 between Tecate and Rancho San diego has to be one of the most dangerous stretches of road in the county if not the state.

They have long term plans to straighten and widen the whole section , it needs to be done . I considered moving out to the Potrero area , but wouldn't be able to handle a daily commute on that one

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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 03:37 PM


Good flush there Moderator

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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 03:40 PM
Images of the border shutdown


Images of the border shutdown
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/slideshow/news/14021482/detail.ht...
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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 04:13 PM


And, if they get a casino in Jamul? It'll turn into Blood Alley.

......Ditto for the extermination
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[*] posted on 8-31-2007 at 07:09 PM


I don't believe anything that comes through the copper wire anymore but a talking head just said that the teachers were fighting a 10 year increase in retirement age, not the 1 year as reported earlier.

Dennis, the 94 will be a deadly highway if (when) that casino's lights turn on.
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