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BAJACAT
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What about this, we leave Friday( Feb-12) at 5:00 am and drive all the way to Rancho Santa Ynez we make camp there. Saturday the 13th we tackle the
trip to the Mission early in the morning, because i might have to pull some of the smaller trucks, right TW ( im kidding guys).we make camp #2 in the
water oasis or the mission site,and fell free to fill in the rest any ideas for Sunday.
[Edited on 12-9-2009 by BAJACAT]
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by edm1
"The water level was just below the rear turn indicator light."
I'll definitely turn around if the water level is above 28 inches (my RV floor is at 30 inches) :-) And having a 146-inch WB, I don't have the turning
radius . . . I think I need a long-travel airbag at the front, and another set of air-bag extensions at the rear - but they would take away the
challenge won't they?
[Edited on 12-8-2009 by edm1] |
The H2 Hummer I watched drive up the trail had no problems whatsoever. I'm sure you'll be fine. Just air down your tires to about 18 or 20 p.s.i. to
gain better traction. The first sandy arroyo will tell you if you can make it through.
In 2007, our group came across a pair of surfers in a new FX4 F250 pickup, and because of the tight swaybars and stiff All-Terrain tires they were
running, they barely made it through the first arroyo, and we had to help them turn their rig around. Oh, they had a heavy camper that was in it's
"Down" position which added plenty of weight to the pickup. I'm not sure why this pickup had so much trouble on this particular trail (in 4WD), but
you never know the capabilities of a vehicle before tackling a trail to see what you can do behind the wheel.
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BAJACAT
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You are right Ken , thats exactly why i want to go to this trip I have never push my truck to it's limits this will be a perfect time to do that,
hopefully the rain will not keep us from doing this if it happens...
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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BAJACAT
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajalou
Well, it sure is tempting me. Will have to see a little closer to the time, but it's real enticing. |
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Lou it would be a pleassure having you in the this trip in progress, i do feel guilty for trading matomi for this.. But there is alot guys like me
that want to do this trip in company of others..
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BAJACAT
What about this, we leave Friday( Feb-12) at 5:00 am and drive all the way to Rancho Santa Ynez we make camp there. Saturday the 13th we tackle the
trip to the Mission early in the morning, because i might have to pull some of the smaller trucks, right TW ( im kidding guys).we make camp #2 in the
water oasis or the mission site,and fell free to fill in the rest any ideas for Sunday.
[Edited on 12-9-2009 by BAJACAT] |
That sounds like a plan to me. I'll take off Friday and leave Bako Thursday evening to get a headstart.
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We need to get the squarecircle and his friend Phil (motorcycle guy) to come too.
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BajaRoadrunner
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I'm in. Unless it rains.
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David K
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I'm in, unless I'm broke! Gee... rain in Baja? I guess... but usually that area gets rain in the late summer.
If that's the case (rain), you guys want to go to the 'lost mission' and Bahia las Animas as a back up plan?
A half day exploring the mesa and walls/ dams/ sleeping circles... and then camping on the beach, 2 miles away. That's 143 miles from Santa Ynez, and
will take about the same time or a touch more than the drive to Mision Santa Maria from Santa Ynez, but no 4 wheeling needed until the beach.
In January, Bahia las Animas looking south at the mesa and you can see the wall on it from there:
Approaching the mysterious walls on the mesa:
Looking towards the bay, from the long wall:
Sleeping circles on top, 1966 vs. 2009 photos:
Another option would be to go to SAN BORJA and do some exploring arond there with Jose and family!
The San Juan Mines would be a great four wheeling challenge! That's where this machine came from:
[Edited on 12-10-2009 by David K]
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BajaRoadrunner
I'm in. Unless it rains. |
I went in 2008 when it rained, and because you will be so close to the Sea of Cortez, your chances of getting soaked are minimal. In Nov. 2008, it
rained in El Arco, El Rosario, Ensenada, etc. But the desert remained dry. The Mission is not far from Gonzaga Bay.
View of Punta Final/Gonzaga Bay from Mission Impossible Trail:
Leaving San Francisquito heading towards El Arco:
Airing up our tires in El Arco at Hwy 1:
Guerrero Negro was soaked:
But, the next day in Rancho Santa Ines - the clouds were sparse where the rest of Baja Norte was still receiving a pounding of rain and wind:
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Rain is good! It keeps the dust down.
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
"Life's a Beach... and then you Fly!" Fishbuck
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David K
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The reason Mision Santa Maria remains better preserved than any of the other adobe missions is due to the lack of rain there (and the remote
location).
The mission (Santa Maria de los Angeles) was founded by the Jesuits and was their last mission in the new world. The king of Spain had them replaced
by the Franciscans (ordered in 1767, carried out in 1768).
It was the Franciscans who built the adobe church and other rooms at Santa Maria in 1768. The next year, Junipero Serra stayed there on his long walk
from Loreto to San Francisco, Alta California in 1769. Serra's first mission (he founded) was San Fernando Velicata (between Santa Maria and El
Rosario) and being a superior location caused the Santa Maria mission to be reduced in status to a 'visita' in 1769.
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Good, no rain, I'm in.
I have a trip to San Pedro Martir two weeks before MSM. A friend of mine from Mexicali organizes it every year. Driving trough Mikes Sky ranch and
"las truchas". 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
We need to get the squarecircle and his friend Phil (motorcycle guy) to come too. |
This trip looks really
good to me, only one problem. Prez day weekend falls right in front of Fat Tuesday, one of the busiest days at my Cajun Restaurant. How crazy would it
be to drive out from the mission on Sunday afternoon and travel back to San Luis Obispo on Monday?
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BAJACAT
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For how many will be a problem to meet at the San Ysidro-TJ border on Feb-12(friday) to caravan from there or how many would like to meet us in
Rancho Santa Ynez...
The dates untill now are.
Leave on Feb-12 , be on the Mission site by Feb-13, possibly leave the mission site on Feb-14(Sunday), if everything goes to plan.Drive to El Rosario
to stay for the night, and then on Monday we can have breakfast and do a quick trip to Las Pintas... or maybe La Lobera... If you guys have any ideas
that will be great too...
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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David K
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| Quote: | Originally posted by XRPhlang
| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
We need to get the squarecircle and his friend Phil (motorcycle guy) to come too. |
This trip looks really
good to me, only one problem. Prez day weekend falls right in front of Fat Tuesday, one of the busiest days at my Cajun Restaurant. How crazy would it
be to drive out from the mission on Sunday afternoon and travel back to San Luis Obispo on Monday? |
Not so crazy... if you don't mind driving every day...
The reason I suggest spending one full day in the mission valley: The 'Baja Feeling' will be better if you can just chill a bit and maybe spend Sunday
resting or hiking or exploring the ruins, aqueduct, springs, oasis, El Camino Real, bulldozed grade where the road building effort to Gonzaga was
abandoned, petroglyphs, Indian Trail to the canyon... etc.
BAJACAT, if we can go, we will meet you at Rancho Santa Ynez Friday afternoon or evening...
Waiting at San Ysidro to caravan might be fine if these were Baja newbies affraid to drive in Mexico solo, but this is a Baja Nomad group and already
should be doing trips solo (nomad style). We all might have different driving speeds or stop needs... Going 300 miles in a caravan is a ways. Nothing
wrong with that if that's what you want or need to do.
However, going 15 miles over rough roads slowly with frequent stops for photos, beer and laughs is more our style!
See http://vivabaja.com/705 for a Nomad 4WD caravan near El Rosario in July, 2005. Fun times and the big rig driven by Hook did fine!
[Edited on 12-11-2009 by David K]
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BAJACAT
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DK my last post on this thread was meant to be in the other thread not this one but it's ok I already copy and pasted it to the other thread. And yes
thats a good idea if it's better we can all meet in Santa Ynez, or if somebody wan'ts to caravan I don't mind ither, I will drive at anybodies speed,
Im sort of lead foot.. you know..
That could be the plan , meeting place- Rancho Santa ynez, show up at anytime will be waiting for you guys...
[Edited on 12-11-2009 by BAJACAT]
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by XRPhlang
| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
We need to get the squarecircle and his friend Phil (motorcycle guy) to come too. |
This trip looks really
good to me, only one problem. Prez day weekend falls right in front of Fat Tuesday, one of the busiest days at my Cajun Restaurant. How crazy would it
be to drive out from the mission on Sunday afternoon and travel back to San Luis Obispo on Monday? |
Phil, that's not a problem. You could leave at noon or shortly after and probably stay in El Rosario or San Quintin Sunday night. I don't remember
what it takes to get out from the mission to hwy 1 but I thought DK said it takes about three hours. So you could be on the hwy around 3 or 4pm. Are
you planning on bringing your MC in your truck or trailer and leave them at Santa Ynez? If your riding your MC in we can take your camping stuff in
for you.
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Thanks Tom, If things work out and I can go and if I can convince the wife to go, I'll take my Tacoma 4x4. When I was there before on my bike I had
to leave it at the top of the so called widowmaker and walk the rest of the way to the mission. The bike is too tall and heavy for me to get through
those loose rocks without falling down a bunch. I'm not much of a 4-wheeler either, but don't tell my wife that. Leaving on Sunday afternoon and
making it to San Quintin would make a 10-11 hours home. No problem.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by BAJACAT
DK my last post on this thread was meant to be in the other thread not this one but it's ok I already copy and pasted it to the other thread. And yes
thats a good idea if it's better we can all meet in Santa Ynez, or if somebody wan'ts to caravan I don't mind ither, I will drive at anybodies speed,
Im sort of lead foot.. you know..
That could be the plan , meeting place- Rancho Santa ynez, show up at anytime will be waiting for you guys...
[Edited on 12-11-2009 by BAJACAT] |
That is a great idea on your part, because the people who will be there, will arrive at Santa Ynez, and you are at the beginning of that great trail
with everyone ready for fun.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by XRPhlang
Thanks Tom, If things work out and I can go and if I can convince the wife to go, I'll take my Tacoma 4x4. When I was there before on my bike I had
to leave it at the top of the so called widowmaker and walk the rest of the way to the mission. The bike is too tall and heavy for me to get through
those loose rocks without falling down a bunch. I'm not much of a 4-wheeler either, but don't tell my wife that. Leaving on Sunday afternoon and
making it to San Quintin would make a 10-11 hours home. No problem. |
That's great between you and DK there will be at least two Tacoma 4x4s to help if there are problems. I feel safe already. Have you talked to the
squarecircle lately? Maybe we can get him in on this. Sounds like we're going to have a nice big group. I'll bring extra fire wood.
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