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They moved to Peru and Bolivia and also Mexico.
There's a shift from Colombia toward Peru and Bolivia," he said. Peru was more worrisome, he added, because of "the penetration of international
cartels, above all Mexicans."
But in both Peru and Bolivia, local police authorities have given drug producers freer rein. Crop eradication was down by more than 10 percent in the
two countries, U.S. anti-drug officials said. They complain that Bolivia, which expelled U.S. drug agents last year, is no longer a serious partner in
combating drugs.
[Edited on 7-29-2009 by fishbuck]
"A ship in harbor is safe, but that is not what ships are built for." J. A. Shedd.
A clever person solves a problem. A wise person avoids it. – Albert Einstein
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| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Gnukid,
Something for you to spin your liberal slant at.
Columbia has beat back the drug cartels to a great extent, with the help of the US "imperial" forces. Funny, but to me that seems like a template
for Mexico to follow.
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Today Columbia announced it had traced the FARC guns back to Venezuela- not the USA.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
1961- JFK to Canadian parliament (Edmund Burke)
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Priceless
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My conclusions are currently valid until I decide otherwise. 
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Gadget, that sentence is priceless. I would like to borrow it and use for the rest of my life, since I think it anyway.  
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Woooosh
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by tripledigitken
Columbia has beat back the drug cartels to a great extent, with the help of the US "imperial" forces. Funny, but to me that seems like a template
for Mexico to follow.
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Arn't they still the #1 supplier of Cocaine with Mexico their major customer? |
Yes, they are still the major supplier. No. Mexico is no longer the major consumer or even conduit these days. It goes straight to Spain (bypassing
Mexico) where it has higher street value. Nearby Portugal has also decriminalized ALL drugs. Only Weed and Meth go to the USA.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Hard to believe that the people of Portugal and Spain consume more than Americans, but maybe.
Why would any Americans buy Mexican pot? Made in the USA is so much better. High tech stuff.
What does an oz of Acapulco Gold go for these daze?
[Edited on 7-29-2009 by k-rico]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Hard to believe that the people of Portugal and Spain consume more than Americans, but maybe.
Why would any Americans buy Mexican pot? Made in the USA is so much better. High tech stuff. |
The cartels are growing the high-quality chronic stuff stateside now. Just like on "Weeds". A huge bust last week in CA netted all Mexicans (but for
one American) and $1.25 Billion in pot. As long as the money goes back to Mexico- it doesn't really matter who grows it or where... the result is the
same.
\"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing\"
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Back to the original topic....upon checking further, and with verifable sources..it seems both events did happen.....Dave, you were correct from the
start......my apologies if you felt slighted..
Mexico!! Where two can live as cheaply as one.....but it costs twice as much.....
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Woooosh
| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
Hard to believe that the people of Portugal and Spain consume more than Americans, but maybe.
Why would any Americans buy Mexican pot? Made in the USA is so much better. High tech stuff. |
The cartels are growing the high-quality chronic stuff stateside now. Just like on "Weeds". A huge bust last week in CA netted all Mexicans (but for
one American) and $1.25 Billion in pot. As long as the money goes back to Mexico- it doesn't really matter who grows it or where... the result is the
same. |
Sorta like the Japanese building Toyotas in Kentucky, or wherever. It makes sense to have production facilities near the consumers.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Terry28
Back to the original topic....upon checking further, and with verifable sources..it seems both events did happen.....Dave, you were correct from the
start......my apologies if you felt slighted.. |
I was wondering about that. Do you know if they have caught the bad guys? Crimes aginst tourists is a big change in the situation. Should knock real
estate prices down even further. "When there's blood in the streets...."
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| Quote: | Originally posted by k-rico
| Quote: | Originally posted by Terry28
Back to the original topic....upon checking further, and with verifable sources..it seems both events did happen.....Dave, you were correct from the
start......my apologies if you felt slighted.. |
I was wondering about that. Do you know if they have caught the bad guys? Crimes aginst tourists is a big change in the situation. Should knock real
estate prices down even further. "When there's blood in the streets...." |
The media report has not been supported broadly, though I understand Dennis is nearby and may be able to verify.
The report drew attention here and like a torero luring a bull it drew it attention because it's frightening and odd.
Many of us know each other through meeting and respect each other while there are quite a few posters who we do not know who post drivel and insults
to draw attention away from discussion, making personal insults, asking questions that are unanswerable to flog a dead horse.
It's coming to the point where BN is becoming heavily invaded by these media assualts and unhelpful to newbies due to the vast numbers of distracting
posters whose point is to draw attention away from rational discussion with clear points and supportive and neighborly comments instead with the
single purpose to distract, inflame, make worse, and personally insult members to a degree anyone would find totally objectionable.
I fear that not only are out cites and community under media assault but so is our online community, by divisive, inflamatory posters with the goal of
distracting the community from solutions and positive discussion.
I think that its clear who is insincere and its time to understand that not only are we under fire in the streets and in the papers but also online.
The most important issues remain general education, health and infrastructure.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by ELINVESTI8
Mexico can only benefit from Colombia’s knowledge in their lessons learned while combating their drug war. |
Well, I don't get it. If Colombia waged a successful war against the illicit drug undustry, how is Colombia still the number one producer?
I think all they did was kick some cartel butt, but somebody is still running the show. Who's growing all that stuff for whom?
Seems like the war in Colombia was to get the cartels off the streets...which they did. Wasn't the production of cocaine an issue in the war?
Splain it to me, David...Please. |
Dennis since I am no expert by any stretch of the imagination I found a news article somewhat splaining it. Beyond that I am at a loss to splain it
further.
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/americas/06/22/colombia.co...
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Military Communications Specialists are trained to be divisive posters and use the hegelian dialectic and propaganda technique to distract from reasonable discussion about community building and reduction in military toward improvements in education,
health and infrastructure.
Military Training Exercises use a
Terror Handbook to create false flag terror in order to justify invasions and increases in Miltary presence and control.
While the real issues are clear, we are communities who require basic education, health and infrastructure, the majority do not support increasing
Military presence in the USA, Mexico or any abroad in Afghanistan, the majority is against Military increases while the administration are organizing against Peace activists.
There is little evidence of terror threat except that created by the Administration. Such as the terror waged at Abu Graib where today Administration lost the court case to deny Habeus Corpus to a detainee who was
picked up at the age of 12 for no verifiable reason and tortured.
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Didn't feel slighted
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Back to the original topic....upon checking further, and with verifable sources..it seems both events did happen.....Dave, you were correct from the
start......my apologies if you felt slighted.. |
It's you who deserves the apology. I find it unconscionable that a business would withhold information that affects the safety of its
customers.
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why would they? what are the chances of the goons returning to the same place? 'specially if they took all the dollar bills the first time?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
why would they? |
Yeah....why? Mexico is the land of denial. Let's not ruin a hard-earned image.
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why would they? what are the chances of the goons returning to the same place? 'specially if they took all the dollar bills the first time? |
The market near my house has been robbed three times. But the point is that the more information provided the better prepared you'll
be. I would at least tell my customers to carry small amounts of cash, leave jewelry and credit cards at home and provide a description of
the vehicle.
But you can't do that if you deny it ever happened.
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Come on everybody. This post has a chance to catch up with the turtle bust post. It's Gnukid vs Ramuna 53. By the way what happened to Ramuna's
#1-52?
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Terry28
I was in both places yesterday...no one knew anything about the incidents mentioned, so now what????? |
We were in Cantilles today, Nick the owner most certainly knows about the robbery, 3 masked one no mask. He's talking.. And just very grateful no one
was hurt, which was his main concern..
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Dave
| Quote: | Originally posted by Terry28
Back to the original topic....upon checking further, and with verifable sources..it seems both events did happen.....Dave, you were correct from the
start......my apologies if you felt slighted.. |
It's you who deserves the apology. I find it unconscionable that a business would withhold information that affects the safety of its
customers. |
The owner of Cantilles Nick, most certainly is speaking about the robbery, 3 masked one no mask and is just very grateful no one was hurt, which was
his main concern..
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Some of us live here, we know there are issues, we also have the "common sense" approach do not drive, go out at night attitude. Yes things happen,
they happen in L.A. too, these robberies took place at night here, same things occur north of the border also. If you've had watered down drinks then
you don't go to cantilles!!!!
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