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Genes ?
Although I haven't paid any attention in the past because I simply could care less, I do remember medical discussions in which it was noted or alleged
that the Aborigine genetic makeup was predisposed to difficulties with Alcohol intake.
If so, this would be true of those Mexicanos who contain those same Aborigine genes, wouldn't it ?
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Borrachos
I'm no anthropologist. What I do know is that alcoholism in Mexico has been a problem that generated a number of government programs. That even
includes lowering the alcohol content in domestic liquor and beer. I do surmise that a certain amount of the problem was/ is situational in that it's
probably ok to drink if you have money and a good job. It's the poor folks that shouldn't drink.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
That even includes lowering the alcohol content in domestic liquor and beer. |
They only did that so you would buy more.
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The Dirty Little Secret of Lite Beer
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That even includes lowering the alcohol content in domestic liquor and beer. |
They only did that so you would buy more. |
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I'll agree that one may well find an unusually high incidence of alcoholism among the indigenous people of both countries. And for all i know, there
ares studies that have been done about it. But I would also suggest that there are situational factors involved as well, such as sitting around poorly
educated with little wealth while watching the world fly by.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by audiobaja
There is a connection between how people metabolize sugars and they've found that a genetic predisposition towards obesity & diabetes (which
killed my father in law) and a tendency towards alcoholism. |
I would tell you where the breakdown in logic is in your statement, but somehow I do not think you would understand. Yes, there is a connection
between obesity and diabetes. Not a connection between sugar and diabetes. Alcohol is not a sugar. Russia has a much higher rate of alcoholism than
native Americans. Russians are mainly caucasians. SInce Russians belong to the samge gene pool as other Europeans, the cause of their alcoholism must
be something other than genetics.
Have you ever considered that your wife has the same feelings about the indians and alcohol because she is an upper class Mexican? That would tend to
show that alcoholism is an environmental issue.=, and that upper class Mexicans are very racist.
No soy por ni contra apatía.
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Here is another Caucasian group with a "predisposition" towards alcoholism...and you won't catch them "lazing around idly" either:
Did you ever wonder why the Irish drink? Answer: So they will have something to do while getting drunk. 
Jeez, racial prejudice is fun! I never realized that. 
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
AND, you'll never hear any from me.
It's all worked out for the best, anyway. The Aborigines wouldn't have done anything worthwhile with the land and now, thanks to our societal
collective guilt, they're turning into Casino Magnates serving up mediocre food and yesterday's talent to attract suckers thinking they're going to
get lucky.
People have a RIGHT to that land which they can HOLD on to. They should have done a better job developing Technology. |
Well, then based on your position, Hitler was right, as he had better technology at the time... therefore, it was ok for his aggression to take away
land that was not his.. plus the other folks living there on the land, heck they weren't using it to it full potential.. right?
How about, it the Islamic folks were able to develop a weapon which could wipe out all resistance? Are you OK with that...
And our stewardship of the "LAND" that we "took" from the native peoples is just "Cracker Jack" now isn't it...
We have had rivers catch fire, as they were so polluted, our ground water is contaminated, we have leaching of heavy metals and radioactive materials
moving from old mining operations up and down the Rocky Mt., you can pay money in Butte MT to look at one of the worlds largest toxic pits, now is
that the American way... we now grow genetically altered foods and animals.. and it was just released by the CDC, that with in the past four years,
autism has increased in children by 57%
The list goes on with regard to the negative impact that has been achieved by the industrial world "technology"... "They should have done a better
job developing Technology"
Do you mean the "technology" in our industrial society, which is operating on "funny money" that is being printed up in the name of "Quantitative
Easing" which is another way of saying "We are broke" but our money is still good... now that is real "technology" at work...
Good luck and hope you have in your life time the experience of having a "superior" race of folks come by and just take EVERYTHING .... and then YOU
have to deal with their: Courts, Justice System and the requirement that you can no longer be a "__________" you fill in the blank, I'm not sure what
you are....
I would expect that you too would be drinking a gallon of Thunderbird a day... sitting against a building or just sitting in the dirt, with little
hope.. as everything you knew and owned has just been taken away... FOREVER
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Another Dumbass Liberal
Who travels from point A to B via X.
"Well, then based on your position, Hitler was right, as he had better technology at the time..."
If that's an example of Logic, you qualify for the Intellectual Special Olymipics.
The essential reality is that State Aggression has existed from the beginning and will ALWAYS exist. A people have the RIGHT to whatever they can
DEFEND. I know that the Liberal's Live in some Fantasy land where all should be Milk, Honey and everlasting love between peoples, but that land of
wonder only exists between their ears. If you have something somebody wants, somebody will try to take it. Hitler's Aggression was countered by our
DEFENSE. AND, we Won.
Security comes from Strength. Nowhere else.
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Who's "We"?
| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Who travels from point A to B via X.
"Well, then based on your position, Hitler was right, as he had better technology at the time..."
If that's an example of Logic, you qualify for the Intellectual Special Olymipics.
The essential reality is that State Aggression has existed from the beginning and will ALWAYS exist. A people have the RIGHT to whatever they can
DEFEND. I know that the Liberal's Live in some Fantasy land where all should be Milk, Honey and everlasting love between peoples, but that land of
wonder only exists between their ears. If you have something somebody wants, somebody will try to take it. Hitler's Aggression was countered by our
DEFENSE. AND, we Won.
Security comes from Strength. Nowhere else. |
Last time I read history, the US was attacked by Japan; not Hitler. So, if went went to Europe to save Europeans, how is that defense? But seriously,
that was probably the last righteous war this country engaged in.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Another Dumbass Liberal
Who travels from point A to B via X.
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some of us think the journey is more important than the destination
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Who travels from point A to B via X.
"Well, then based on your position, Hitler was right, as he had better technology at the time..."
If that's an example of Logic, you qualify for the Intellectual Special Olympics.
The essential reality is that State Aggression has existed from the beginning and will ALWAYS exist. A people have the RIGHT to whatever they can
DEFEND. I know that the Liberal's Live in some Fantasy land where all should be Milk, Honey and everlasting love between peoples, but that land of
wonder only exists between their ears. If you have something somebody wants, somebody will try to take it. Hitler's Aggression was countered by our
DEFENSE. AND, we Won.
Security comes from Strength. Nowhere else. |
Logic  from Might makes Right to logic.. what's next.. darts
As for "Intellectual Special Olympics" was tying to allow you to respond, did not want to make the subject matter to difficult for you
Are we supposed to see the "logic" in your posts, as they follow the same rule that you apply to all things.. If I can take it from you, then I'm
better than you... now that's some logic?
Your basic premiss is flawed, your working from a Darwinians position, of survival of the fittest.. which is not the world we operate in, at least the
"civilized world" as we know it at this time...
Your position would have served you better in around the 1800's when all were taking as much of the world for their own as possible, which you think
is just fine.. again because the others weren't using it the way you think it should be used.. and I believe I covered that point in my post too..
Your position is Hitlers position.. you have stated it again and again... I have read the same theme in your post before.
And I will state that I'm not a liberal nor conservative, I have no particular affiliation any longer with any "political party" as they are all
bankrupt also..
I'm not presenting a new thought and people a lot smarter than I have put it out before.. Albert Einstein "It has become appallingly obvious that our
technology has exceeded our humanity", somehow I think this fits you like a glove.
It's just that your position is lacks any morality, which is a position that most thinking people do not subscribe to, nor would want to subscribe to.
The point that I have attempted make is that your position is limited to only one facet... FORCE to achieve ones goal.. and that it is acceptable and
anyone that falls to this FORCE is really deserving of their loss of: life, property and happiness, again that infallible logic of yours..
We won the second world war, due to many factors, not just that we had DEFENSE, as we did not.. even though people like Billy Mitchell and many others
recommend it..
It's one thing to defend ones self, this was not your original point and/or statement: "The Aborigines wouldn't have done anything worthwhile with the
land" and "People have a RIGHT to that land which they can HOLD on to. They should have done a better job developing Technology."
You are now attempting to take a totally different position, to support your earlier Hitler position; that being aggression and the taking away
possessions from others, due to greater technology and based on a "philosophical and/or religious" thinking was acceptable as the ones losing were
inferior due to their "culture/race" and their lack of proper use of LAND
That is your position, not mine, try and stick with it...
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Ike may just be spinning in his grave.
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Actually Odd One ..........
We went to War against Germany Because:
THEY Declared War on us.
We would have, anyway, of course.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
We went to War against Germany Because:
THEY Declared War on us.
We would have, anyway, of course. |
Actually the WWII was not the subject of my post, but your original post which included the following and I quote..
"It's all worked out for the best, anyway. The Aborigines wouldn't have done anything worthwhile with the land and now, thanks to our societal
collective guilt, they're turning into Casino Magnates serving up mediocre food and yesterday's talent to attract suckers thinking they're going to
get lucky.
People have a RIGHT to that land which they can HOLD on to. They should have done a better job developing Technology."
Stick to the subject... are you changing your position on the above??
If you want to go into the factors which contributed to the "Great Game", WWI, and WWII.. go for it.. I'm breathless in anticipation of the wisdom you
can impart
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Had Germany won the war...
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Well, then based on your position, Hitler was right, as he had better technology at the time... therefore, it was ok for his aggression to take away
land that was not his.. plus the other folks living there on the land, heck they weren't using it to it full potential.. right?
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Hitler would've been right. History ain't written by losers.
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ACTUALLY
I'll stick to whatever subject I decide to and, at some point, I'll get back to the whole World Conquest thing as I feel motivated.
MY last response was directed at what the Odd One had written:
"Last time I read history, the US was attacked by Japan; not Hitler. So, if went went to Europe to save Europeans, how is that defense?
But seriously, that was probably the last righteous war this country engaged in."
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No rush
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I'll stick to whatever subject I decide to and, at some point, I'll get back to the whole World Conquest thing as I feel motivated.
MY last response was directed at what the Odd One had written:
"Last time I read history, the US was attacked by Japan; not Hitler. So, if went went to Europe to save Europeans, how is that defense?
But seriously, that was probably the last righteous war this country engaged in." |
Take your time, as I want you to respond to your original post;
"It's all worked out for the best, anyway. The Aborigines wouldn't have done anything worthwhile with the land and now, thanks to our societal
collective guilt, they're turning into Casino Magnates serving up mediocre food and yesterday's talent to attract suckers thinking they're going to
get lucky.
People have a RIGHT to that land which they can HOLD on to. They should have done a better job developing Technology."
and it's implications in full.
I will say that we have agreement on one issue, it was the last "war" we fought.. the rest have been "police actions" where our folks are at a
complete disadvantage. as they are not "fighting" a war the way a war should be fought, they are used to draw fire... enemy supply lines are not cut,
support by others for our enemies, if one must fight, then fight, but fight to win... you go for the take down.. Mac Arthur was right, as was Berry
Goldwater.. any ideas what the world would look like now if he had won in 64..
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No Need
For ME to respond to MY Original post. I've made my position clear. There is an abounding arrogance among the members of the Leftist Legions if YOU
or anyone of them feel that I have some obligation to respond to whatever YOU decide. I have no responsibility to YOU other than to spit on your
grave and raise a toast.
While we can pick nits over aggression and defense in the Modern-World, there are vast differences between those and expansion of influence during the
"developing world" period and NO American need apologize for the actions of Americans during that period.
Period.
[Edited on 1-10-2010 by MrBillM]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
There is an abounding arrogance among the members of the............ |
Certainly you don't view arrogance as a negative, do you?
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