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mtgoat666
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And this shocking story of a resort killing a customer:
An El Paso man died after being electrocuted in a jacuzzi at a resort hotel in the Mexican beach town of Puerto Peñasco, popularly also known as
Rocky Point. The wife survived, but is in critical condition.
https://www.elpasotimes.com/story/news/2024/06/12/hot-tub-el...
Faulty maintenance or faulty construction? Hired untrained or unqualified staff?
[Edited on 6-15-2024 by mtgoat666]
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I don't have an opinion as to cause/fault in that particular case.
In years past, I spent a lot of time in South East Asia, and especially Thailand. The monsoons would sometimes cause failures in the earth grounds of
buildings. I remember two electrocution deaths there one year. A female tourist was electrocuted in the hotel room shower, where the shower head was
on an extended flexible metallic hose, which unfortunately had acquired a dangerous voltage. Her male companion tried to remove her from the shower
and was also killed.
Sometime after this event, I discovered the same type of metallic hose in a shower at my parents house. I replaced it with a plastic hose.
As a safety suggestion, I recommend touching metal shower knobs, etc., with the back of your hand first, as a test. If there is voltage at the knob,
your hand will usually recoil from it. Whereas, if you grab the metal knob as most people do, you might not be able to let go.
Another observation: touching two points with your two hands at the same time, such as sink or shower knobs, when a voltage is present, can create an
electrical path through your chest and heart. Whereas, using only one hand might create an electrical path from hand to foot, skirting the chest and
missing the heart.
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You might be surprised how many places in Mexico aren't grounded at all. All the plug outlets in the storefront I rented years ago were 2-prong.
Why pay for 3 wires when you can get away with two? 
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Quote: Originally posted by surabi  | | You might be surprised how many places in Mexico aren't grounded at all. All the plug outlets in the storefront I rented years ago were 2-prong.
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And most of the time that's not a problem (endpoint grounds weren't even required or common in the U.S. till after you and I were born).
A wiring detail I've occasionally run into which is more dangerous, are 2-prong receptacles with the hot and neutral reversed.
There's a reason many two-prong plugs are polarized (one prong wider than the other).
I routinely check polarity on outlets when I rent a place; everyone should have a basic voltmeter as part of their kit (they're cheap).
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In a properly installed and operating electrical system, a Ground Fault Circuit Interrupter can be a lifesaver. The problem is that GFCIs are too
often absent or not working properly.
The Differences Between GFCI Circuit Breakers and GFCI Receptacle Outlets
https://www.baypower.com/blog/the-differences-between-gfci-c...
Chasing "ghost" trips in GFCI-protected circuits
https://www.fluke.com/en-us/learn/blog/grounding/chasing-gho...
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Experts assess jacuzzi tragedy in Puerto Peñasco resort involving an El Paso couple
https://www.ktsm.com/news/experts-asses-jacuzzi-tragedy-in-p...
The expert in the above linked article discusses the likelihood of a non-existent or faulty GFCI. This would also be my suspicion, but without enough
information it is not possible to know with certainty.
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