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Pescador
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| Quote: | Originally posted by ramuma53
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What you are saying is that you do not care about legallity as long as you can get a good hamburger and hope only got a hamburger.
What we are discusing here is legallity, not good hamburgers.
We are exposing here what people do against the law and that put in jeopardy Americans and American's property. 
I do not care if you try to spend a night in my hotel, since at this time it have been ransaked by Olivia and Nark. We will rebuild as soon as we
clean it up from criminals.
We will also rebuild and get our property back a lot sooner than they expect, also they will pay for their crimes in a legal way extremely soon, since
she will not be able to use again her Estate authoritie's illegal help; We have new Federal authorities from a political party that is not the Estate
Governor, they are now looking at all the illega activity in South Baja and by January we will start to have legal action.
As a start, Galindo the Estate Police Director will be out of a job very soon and from there to jail.
Please go to get as many hamburgers as you can, from now to January, because those will be the last you get there from them. |
Quite the contrary, I think it is a lousy system, when a legal representative can make a small down payment and then through intimidation and legal
manuevering can claim property that he has not fully paid for or taken care of. There is just enough edge to your whole idea of property ownership
that you were jailed and spent time in the wonderful jails of Santa Rosalia. So you are as much of the problem with land laws in Mexico as someone
who you claim is a squatter. The whole system stinks. It stinks because you can pay a small amount of money, come in as an owner, make a lot of
unsubstantiated claims, and cause a lot of grief for people who have some claim to the land. And then raise hell with their character and call every
move they make into question, when after reading 63 pages of unsubstantiated garbage I have about the same feeling about your legal ownership to any
of the property in question.
The sad part is that the legal system is so screwed up that neither you nor Olivia is able to get a clear decision about who owns what. In the United
States this issue would have been settled long ago and everyone could go on with their business without shotguns going off in the middle of the night
or, as you claim, people ending up occupying your hotel.
So you have done a great job of educating us about the fallacy of clear title because you have wasted countless years and untold pesos trying to prove
that you are the lawful owner of any properties associated with Playa Buenaventura.
So if an accomplished lawyer (accomplished according to people who have had a lot of personal contact with you in the norther part of the peninsula)
can not sort this mess out, then I don't want to try to take sides but I am painfully aware that the government who's responsibility it is to sort
this kind of thing out to the protection of all parties involved is sadly lacking and incapable of rendering a responsible decision.
The fact that some of the readers have taken your side and other readers who have followed this whole saga have taken the side of Olivia tells me
there is no clear winner in this whole mess. It was my belief that civilized governments were supposed to be able to sort this kind of disagreement
out and put an end to the stupidity, namecalling, and endless: she said, he said kind of trash which has been the perception of everything that has
occured.
My advice is that if you truly have a legal and valid claim, then get it done or leave it alone. Surely you must have better ways to occupy your time
than waging a one man war to try to create a negative atmosphere for someone who you have a land dispute with.
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just wait until the next election. the roles will reverse once more.
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Islandbuilder
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A couple of observations from a guy wthout a dog in the fight:
Any time a person has to mock his opponent by calling him by a mean nick name ("nark") he has lost the moral high ground. It's a playground tactic,
and using it lowers your argument to that level.
It is disconcerting that the rule of law seems to change based on which political party has power. Makes a thinking person slower to invest into that
sort of scenario.
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ramuma53
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I call Mark Nark, because he si a narc dealer and organized crime member and he know why I know it.
To confirm this, the public attorney who jailed my people named Aloy, is out of the job today, our accusations were right and he was caught by the
Estate Police and very likely he will be prosecuted by Federal authorities. The main issue is that he is out of the District attorney's office and
being prosecuted for ties to organized crime as I have been telling here, in relation to Olivia and Nark
The next one is Galindo, the Estate Police director at this time, who has been also tied to organized crime on the Baja's news and dennied the
confidence support by Congress.
Those two Public Attorneys are the ones who detained my employees without a court order and who provided that service to protect Nark and La Vaquera.
The ones who issued the orders for my arrest and the ones who violated the Federal order not to arrest me.
As today news, the new Mexico's President, is startting an investigation about all the organized crime protection provided by District attorneys and
judges in Baja.
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ramuma53
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Some of you may think that this situation may reverse once we change again president, but it is not right.
We have never had that kind of protection and active cooperation with organized crime members, to the point of attacking established businesses to
allow the criminals free action on their businesses.
This mean, that the Estate Police Director and ex District attorney and the District attorney who acted jailing my people, who latter came out without
a single criminal charge, who violated every law in Mexico including a Federal judge order, were isolated corruption cases that now are being
corrected.
If you notice or know, the new General District Attorney Murillo Karam, is very well known political figure, famous for being hard and strong and with
a lot of knowledge; also as soon as he came in to office, he promptly said that he was receiving a hollow shell as the General District Attorney’s
office and now the whole Calderon is being investigated; no soft actions, hard words and actions.
also you must notice that now the Marines and Army are killing the organized crime members they locate, no more arrests, because if you see
statistics, there were 200,000 arrests by the Federal Police in the last year, but only 2 convictions, yes Two only.
That mean that the judges were freeing the criminals faster than the police put them under arrest, just like Olivia was freed from her conviction for
selling Sea Turtle in her restaurant, a federal offense with 12 years jail penalty.
No, this will not go back to corruption as usual, those acts will be corrected and examples put so criminals understand that they have no more open
cooperation by public officials.
Mexico has to grow past the third world kind of justice where the criminals dominated the courts and police; America did it in the 1920s Mexico is
doing it now.
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ramuma53
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All this new actions mean that we will have Nark and La Vaquera in jail very soon.
Also that we will have a safe Baja in no more than 6 months, no more violence threats and you will again be able to freely run along the Baja highway.
That mean, we will have tourism again, not only people running drugs and threatening Mexicans and Americans alike. If you like, for at least 6 more
years, but most likely for a long time to come.
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rts551
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Raphael
Why don't you visit David the next time he is selling his book in Mexico. That way you can hash it out face to face/mano a mano. He advertises here
on Nomads when he will he in your area.
PS And don't bring immigration because I don't think he has papers to legally sell his book in Mexico.
And David that way you could report both sides of the story.
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rts551
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David
My message was to Rapfael and I thought it was a good idea. One sided conclusions are never very intelligent. He could even buy you a hamburger and
a beer.
I think putting a book together compiling the works of many others is a good idea,,,, but how ever you want to mask it, it was being sold by you in
Tecate and Guadalupe Valley. I might even buy one.
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David K
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Yes, we were invited to Guadalupe Valley, so Max wanted to go, and I joined him, and we gave one book to our hosts.. but we did not sell one copy that
day, and we then got to enjoy a 5 hour wait in line to get home. If you have any issues with what Max wants to do with the book, as he is the primary
author and owner of it, then email him at the book email...
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ramuma53
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rts551
David
I would love to read your book on Mexico, because, knowing history is a very good way to avoid repeating the same mistakes.
I didn’t know David K wrote a book and that certainly change a little my opinion on him. Nobody who have the patience and discipline to write, can be
so wrong.
As many of you know, I wrote a series of writings that cause a lot of controversy in the Tijuana Ensenada Coast named "La verdadera Historia de
Rosarito" 'The true Rosarito’s history' that started with "Cronica de un Fraude a la Nacion" "A Fraud to the Nation’s Chronicle".
On those writings consisting on 92 full newspaper pages, published in Peridico ABD de Baja California, I published mi historical and legal
investigations, that concluded that almost the whole Tijuana to Ensenada’s coast had been appropriated illegally by people and public officials, using
legal simulations that used the cooperation of several Estate administrations, judges and public notaries.
A whole generation of judges, attorneys and public notaries conjugated their actions to allow several individuals to appropriate those coastal lands
without paying to the nation, using 1871-1916 titles that were declared reviewable by Mexico’s constitution. (Constitutional Article 27 fraction
XVIII).
The period covered by David’s book on Mexico is very interesting in Baja, a period that covered the Old Catholic missions, because it was a genocidal
period similar to the one inflicted by the English to the American Indian.
Along the high and low Baja Caliornias, existed big populations when the conquest arrived, and I mean big, on the order of 500,000 people just in one
south of Ensenada; a population that perished completely and was erased from the face of the earth along with a whole series of those indigenous
populations mainly by the simple presence of the Spaniards who brought European’s bacteria and virus already domesticated by them but lethal to the
indigenous populations.
David, hope you tell me how to get your book and if good, I will certainly recommend it to my intellectual clubs and circles.
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David K
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If you leave Mark and Olivia alone, I will give you a book! Feliz Navidad
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The day this thread dies is the day we all celebrate.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ateo
The day this thread dies is the day we all celebrate. |
Everyone must be thinking this and I'm sure it's been posted hundreds of times; Ateo, if you don't like it, don't look. Just go celebrate something
else.
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ramuma53
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Pescador
I have to clear some mistakes you write.
I didn’t spend any time on Santa Rosalia’s jail as a prisoner.
I was kidnapped in Mexico city from my own office, whose address I have printed all over my webpage, brought to Baja and showed like a criminal in the
newspapers, then brought to the Santa Rosalia’s court room just to pay a bail bond and I was going to be released from the court room when my
attorneys noticed that the whole South Baja’s Estate police was surrounding the court room to kidnap me again.
My Attorneys just didn’t pay the bail bond and asked for the Federal protection against illegal detention by the South Baja Estate Police (The one
denounced publicly by their own elements as serving the organized crime). The Federal Law protection was granted to me and the bail bond paid, but the
release order was not being signed and strangely it was signed at 1:30 next day and that fact only is a law violation, because the judge order was
issued one day earlier and they had no legal way to retain me, but they did it anyway.
Why, just to mount another kidnapping party, composed of 8 Estate policemen, wearing black masks and absolutely without any identification on them or
the vehicles that had even the license plates covered. But several of my attorneys were there waiting for me and took pictures and movies of the whole
new kidnapping; they had also prevented the Federal Police that a Federal judge order was about to be violated.
The court police, just brought me out to put me in the hands of those unidentified gunman who confronted my group of attorneys and with their rifles
on hand and denying that they were policeman, obligated me to board an unidentified car, but my attorneys uncovered the license plates and
identifications of the vehicles and took pictures. At that time the gunman feeling uncovered threatened my attorneys with firing on them, but my
attorneys showed the Federal court order not to arrest me and follow them on their cars to the Santa Rosalia’s Estate police office where they also
took pictures of me inside and being unloaded from the unidentified cars.
From there they showed again the Federal Judge not to arrest me and ask them to show any order for my arrest, and they told them that they were
waiting for one.
Several minutes latter my attorneys asked for my immediate release of they would be charged with kidnapping and they almost did it, but asked for a
few minutes to call La Paz to the Estate Police Director Hugo Paul Galindo, (The ex district attorney who illegally detained my hotel’s staff and even
my attorney) and they heard Hugo Galindo tell the Estate Police chief in Santa Rosalia that the Governor himself ordered my arrest any way and had
orders to bring me to La Paz to his the Estate Police Directo’s personal office.
When the Santa Rosalia’s Estate Police commander arrived with me to La Paz, he went directly to the Estate Police administrative offices, to Galindo
Office exactly, where he asked them to sign for my release to him; there they told him that just leave me there with them, because there were no order
for my arrest and the Estate Police Director ordered me to stay there; the Santa Rosalia’s Estate Police Commander, with the M16 on his hands, and
clearly threatening them with it, ordered them to sign for me, or he would take me back, and leave me where he had found me as he said; the Estate
police went to Galindo’s office and came back badly signing and only then the commander left me there with an I am sorry to me.
Then they without any court or absolutely any legal order brought me to La Paz jail, where the jailer refused to have me in a jail cell, because the
Estate Police had absolutely no order to hold me, I was clearly kidnapped.
I was put in chains on the Detention Director’s office code named ‘El Profe’, in a chair, day and night, until a Federal court’s officer who entered
all the Estate administrative offices looking for me, found me behind a wall of Estate policeman who pretended to block him from entering the
Detention Director’s office; he knew me and told to me ‘Mr. Muñoz, I found you’, these guys were denying they had you in detention; The Detention
Director ‘El Profe’ told him I was not under arrest, that I was resting there only and denied I was under arrest, but when I asked to leave, they told
the Federal Court officer that I was waiting for the North Baja Estate Police to arrest me for an administrative violation committed in 1997. The
Federal court officer, asked me to sign the Federal Judge order not to arrest me petition already granted against the Estate Police and advised him
that I would remain there under the Federal Judge custody waiting for the North Baja Estate Police to escort me to Tijuana.
I had to spend 2 days in that office, chained and just sitting on the chair in the Detention Director’s office ‘ El Profe’ just waiting for the
Tijuana Estate Police who finally arrived with orders to bring me to Tijuana to be released.
When they asked for me, they told them that the Estate Police Director had issued orders to bring them to a party and have a good time on their own
account, that they had nothing to worry, that they have just to sign for my release to them and then they would go to party and on next Monday (it was
Saturday) they would be able to take me to Tijuana.
The Tijuana Estate policeman, felt something fishy and asked for my immediate release to them, signing the order and ordering that I was released to
them at that instant; I was brought to them and asked them for time to allow me to take a bath but they denied and ordered me to be released to them
in that instant and they came and took me, taking the chains off me and put me in between them; they asked for a patrol car to take me to the Airport
but they told them that it was 1 PM and we supposedly leave at 6 PM and there were a lot of time. The Tijuana’s Estate Policeman answered that or they
provide a car right then and there or they would leave in a taxi with me and they asked to remain in between them, starting for the door walking back
and with their hands on the weapons, clearly feeling a rat there and there.
The La Paz Estate Police Detention second commander offered them to take us to the airport right away and he brought his patrol car, which we boarded.
On the way to the La Paz airport, the second commander asked to stop for gas, but one of the Tijuana Estate policeman, looking backwards saw that we
were being followed by at least 5 Estate policeman vehicles with at least 40 gunman in black and with heavy weapons and ordered the second commander
to go straight to the airport and not stop for any reason.
Arriving at the airport, the Tijuana Estate Policeman asked for the Army protection, who surrounded us and brought us in to the boarding room
directly, not allowing the Estate Police to enter the La Paz airport. We remained there until our plane left La Paz to Tijuana, where I was brought to
the court room and released immediately, because there were no order for my arrest and the 1997 administrative violation had expired years ago, more
because I paid the money penalty and there were no damages uncovered, but mainly because the case had been closed definitively several years early for
time limitation. They explained to me that they had no order for my arrest or detention and just gave the court order to release me.
Again they started to drag their feet to release me and while the order for my release was issued at 1 PM they just did not allowed me to leave until
1 PM next day, another law violation, but a lot of people was waiting for my release and just took me to a safe Tijuana place.
Clearly the South Baja Estate Police, had ties to North Baja Estate Police to manage to bring back a closed case and put in the computer an order for
my arrest, to allow the South Baja Estate police to retain me.
I am told that the Santa Rosalia’s judge told my attorney that if they wanted to see me against to take a picture of me in the court room or I would
disappear forever and that is when they noticed the whole Estate Police surrounding the court house; if my attorneys had paid the bail bond they would
just were going to take me and disappear me.
Since they were unable to do it there and then, they planned to just disappear me and charge it on the commander who illegally detained me, and that
is why they did not want to sign for me; also why they were not able to put me in jail, because I was clearly kidnapped not arrested by the Estate
Police, not by any court order.
When latter talked with the Tijuana Estate Police, who brought me to Tijuana to release me, they also told me that they smelled a rat from the start
and confirmed their feelings when they were offered charge free party paid by the Estate Police director; when usually they are not granted even money
to eat on a mission of that kind.
They feel that if they had signed and not asked for my immediate custody, I would have disappeared and they would have been face with an after fact
that would have obligated them to participate in my murder.
Then just to correct you, I was not jailed, I was kidnapped by the Estate Police, and they violated a Federal judge order not to arrest me and
kidnapped me again.
I do not have to establish my property, it is not in question, I have Agrarian Court ruling saying that they have nothing against my title or me, that
there is no open cause against me or my property.
I have a title issued by the Federal Government, registered in the public registry and it is public; I have a public document where Olivia accept that
I am the owner and ask me permission to pass through my property to Federal Zone, signed in front of a Navy commander.
Ask Olivia what she has?????
She has a lease contract with the Ejido La Purisima, that affect land outside my land lot property to the north and that is all, not even a public
notary signed contract, it is a private contract.
What we see here, is corruption paid by Olivia and Nark to the worst in Mexico, open cooperation of Estate Police to intimidate us, jail us, even to
try to murder us.
Their only problem is that the political situation changed, it was unsustainable, and the organized crime was controlling the whole Mexico while the
president simulated to prosecute it.
They did not succeed because not all the Estate police personnel were corrupt; they even denounced their top commanders publicly as I have shown here.
Then there is no legal dispute for my land, there is only an organized crime member trying with cooperation of public officials to steal my legal
property.
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I really like the food, I like hamburgers with grilled onions and jalapeno, and I like real french fries.
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Reading through the lines, it appears that Mr Munoz escaped justice in La Paz by claiming that the authorities in southern baja have no jurisdiction
over him, a resident of the northern province.
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Every time I try to read these exhausting diatribes my eyes glaze over, and all I can comprehend are the beautiful landscapes that are engraved on the
insides of my eyelids. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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OOps! I guess I fell asleep with my finger on the Z key.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by gnukid
I really like the food, I like hamburgers with grilled onions and jalapeno, and I like real french fries. |
Next time try the soup
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ramuma53
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Took some time like always, but Mexico’s justice arrives.
At this time all the charges against me and my employees have been dropped or declared false by Federal authorities, 3 amparos granted, 2 against any
arrest order while the judge was dismissed and the then Mulege District attorney was indicted for organized crime ties.
The Federal judge found out that the local judge who issued the order for my arrest was the attorney who made the complain brother, the person who
supposedly made the complaint does not exist and they provided absolutely no legal proof against me, but anyway the judge issued the arrest order.
The charges against me in Tijuana were proved false and fabricated to allow my arrest and a Definitive Federal order was issued by a Federal judge
declaring void those charges.
Those facts demonstrate that the Estate Authorities cooperated with Olivia Higuera Agiuilar to try to put us out of their way with their drugs
unloading at Buenaventura beach.
This Estate authority’s cooperation with organized crime was corroborated by a public paper written by the Estate police elements.
This also mean that the publications that the Estate authorities made were in complete violation of my constitutional rights and caused me grave
damage allowing me to sue the Estate government for damages that may be estimated in 100s of millions of dollars and a litigation that at this time is
being prepared by several legal firms in Mexico city.
Since my name has been completely cleared of any wrong doing, while the opposite has been demonstrated against Estate authorities and La Vaquera and
Nark:
That the Estate authorities cooperated with organized crime members, specifically the actual Estate police director, the then Mulege district
attorney, the judge who issued my arrest order and Estate District attorney.
At this time, The Estate police director has been denied the honesty proof by congress but he is still in office.
The Judge who issued the arrest order was declared in fault and dismissed as judge.
The then Mulege district attorney has been dismissed because proved organized crime ties.
Our goal now is to put the actual Estate Police Director in jail for power abuse, 6 counts of kidnapping, 2 Federal orders violation, robbery and
organized crime ties.
We have to see if the actual Estate district attorney was the one behind all those crimes, but certainly it look like he was at least part of them.
Concerning La Vaquera and Nark, their criminal days are almost over with 10 criminal investigations restarted and 3 Federal felonies also being
investigated by the new Federal Police and Federal Zone authorities who are now aware that their Baja representatives were harboring an organized
crime operation on La Vaquera site in Federal Zone.
On the bright side, we will restart the hotel before summer start, with Fonatur fully behind us and a complete protection by Federal authorities, who
will eradicate the organized crime on the area, bringing back Pease to the area while putting the Estate authorities on a leash.
People will again be able to walk the beaches in safety very soon and with the new law changes, Americans will now be able to hold property title on
the Baja Coast.
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