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Ateo
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I'm gonna do this same trip in an air conditioned jet someday. 
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mtgoat666
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| Quote: | Originally posted by David K
| Quote: | Originally posted by mtgoat666
it sure seems like it would be more pleasant journey to bike or kayak,... just saying....    
wonder if they considered that? |
Even more pleasant in an air conditioned SUV!  |
i would find a kayak or bike a lot more pleasant than an AC SUV. nothing more depressing than being cooped up in a car when you could be doing same
travel in self-propelled fashion.
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Skipjack Joe
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If they keep starting at 3AM they should make good time to Gonzaga. It's mostly flat the rest of the way.
3AM - 8AM. That must have been so much better than the 3PM - 7PM first day. The high each day is around 3:30PM. Evening walks make no sense. They've
figured it out now. They're only walking the first part of the day.
I thought they would continue until 10AM today but that cove is so enticing. We always think of pulling off the hwy at that spot on the way home but
there is never any time left. All the time is budgeted for the dash home.
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It must be flat out torture! laying around all afternoon and evening in that heat... no picnic
Seriously, I hope they switch coasts, make CSL their final destination and call it a 1000 mile trip in 100 days. That would still be very respectable
and realistic (if all goes perfectly).
[Edited on 5-18-2012 by Curt63]
No worries
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goldhuntress
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Wow, they're on the move again. They walked only a few feet where there are 2 trackings from the same spot. Probably readjusting the packs or fixing
boots or something, who knows. Now they are at the road. I'm very impressed!
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goldhuntress
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Hummm, not sure what going on. They were moving much faster than usual, went off the road and then the tracking stopped.
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Skipjack Joe
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goldhuntress,
My theory is that the new paved hwy was not built directly over the old road. As long as they walked on the hwy that was paved when google took the
images they walked on the hwy. Now they're walking on the paved road that is shown as a dirt road and it appears that they're off the hwy when in fact
they are on a paved hwy that's next to the old dirt hwy. Are you confused with the explanation/theory?
[Edited on 5-18-2012 by Skipjack Joe]
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goldhuntress
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When it tracks on the Spot page it just goes straight from one point to the next right? It doesn't follow the road, only if I put the coordinate in
Google Maps does it do that. So if they go around a curve and you zoom in on the Spot page it can look like they cut straight through instead of
staying on the road. There is no curve in the road between 48 and 49, both points are west of the road so to me it looks like they walked in the wash
and the old road area. I thought they may have walked up what looks to be a hill at 47 to get a look down that way. So hard to speculate.
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Skipjack Joe
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My theory:
1) #47 is just off the hwy as they prepare to resume their journey.
2) The new hwy now crosses the arroyo on a bridge. It no longer drops to the bottom by looping along the left.
3) #48 and #49 are now directly on the new hwy.
4) The new hwy no longer follows the dirt hwy to the right of 47 and 48. It may partly overlap the old hwy but does not fully because the 2 points are
not on old hwy.
As you say it's now hard to tell where the new hwy lies other than the spots that have been sent.
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Skipjack Joe
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Another example of our hikers walking across open desert.
The old hwy is clearly to the right. Our hikers are walking on a paved road that appears to be open country.
If you zoom in on #20 you can see both the hwy they're walking on and the old hwy next to them. This was the end of the new hwy when google made it's
map. But as you move further down the new hwy has not yet been constructed and the spots are now on open land.
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goldhuntress
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Skipjack, I am not familiar with the road there so you would know. They had a later start today than yesterday and have gone 4.5 miles, but that would
be if they were on the road shown on Google which I guess is the old road? Still close though.
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David K
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Igor is correct, the new highway is their path and not 'open desert'. In the above image, they are passing Cerro Prieto volcano (see the crater?)
#21-#24 is the new highway, but on top of the previous (1986) graded road... The dirt road you see parallel to the right is the old original 4WD road
to Gonzaga, but graded during highway construction, as a detour.
[Edited on 7-8-2012 by David K]
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| Quote: | Originally posted by goldhuntress
Skipjack, I am not familiar with the road there so you would know. They had a later start today than yesterday and have gone 4.5 miles, but that would
be if they were on the road shown on Google which I guess is the old road? Still close though. |
They are definitely on the new highway... It runs parallel to the older road, to the west (inland) of it.
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Skipjack Joe
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old hwy vs new hwy
| Quote: | Originally posted by goldhuntress
Skipjack, I am not familiar with the road there so you would know. They had a later start today than yesterday and have gone 4.5 miles, but that would
be if they were on the road shown on Google which I guess is the old road? Still close though. |
Yes, they started at 7AM today vs 3AM yesterday. I can't understand why unless they just didn't like the darkness. It's 10AM and they're still moving
whereas yesteerday by 8AM they were done, having hiked in cooler temperatures and more miles.
One of the interesting things below is how the new hwy was constructed. The old hwy follows flat level ground that can be seen to the right. But the
new hwy has been clearly built to avoid this area and follow the hilly part right next to it. Since this construction is more expensive than on flat
ground (the blasting and the bridges) I can't understand why this was done. The only thing I came up with is that a road on such flat ground degrades
faster due to storm runoff, like the section north of Puertecitos.
Either way our intrepid explorers would have an easier time if they had followed the old road in this section.
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David K
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Exactly... Along the base of the hills to avoid flash flood washouts, and nice big bridges instead of vados.
If they stayed on the dirt road, not only are they closer to the sea (cooler), but safer from motorists (not that there may be many).
Maybe they have a support vehicle that comes to them periodically?
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goldhuntress
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Yes it seems it would be easier to use the old road, and maybe slightly shorter. They have their own reasons why they make the choices they do and and
I'll be interested in hearing why they've done certain things during the trip that don't seem like the best thing to do or that we can't figure out at
all. Not to much of that yet but they have a long way to go.
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Hang in there!
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| Quote: | Originally posted by goldhuntress
Yes it seems it would be easier to use the old road, and maybe slightly shorter. They have their own reasons why they make the choices they do and and
I'll be interested in hearing why they've done certain things during the trip that don't seem like the best thing to do or that we can't figure out at
all. Not to much of that yet but they have a long way to go. |
Perhaps he's choosing the pavement/ newly graded roadbed because of the stroller he is pushing. (I am assuming that the new roadbed is a better
surface than the detour/old road) That said, they are about to run out of the new alignment. I'm sure they will be replacing the stroller with a
better suited vehicle for the job (not many babies in strollers weigh 80#'s).
Ken
[Edited on 5-18-2012 by tripledigitken]
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Igor,
They did leave the cliff/coast rest spot last night and hiked up the ridge and camped. I wouldn't want to face that first thing either.
Ken
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David K
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At this location, north of Okie's Landing since 10 am:
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