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[*] posted on 4-16-2015 at 04:08 PM


David there is a guy that has taken up residence near the summit. He has the usual collection of animals and a beat up truck. I forget which side of the summit , but my guess its on the east side.
The guy that redid the lock gate grading and placement of the new boulder came from and returned via the road between the LG and the road we used for the go around for the lock gate. We could plainly see the fresh tracks of his bulldozer. That road heads northerly and my GPS & GE both show it as a dead end. Anyway, I suspect that is where his ranch base is located?
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David there is a guy that has taken up residence near the summit. He has the usual collection of animals and a beat up truck. I forget which side of the summit , but my guess its on the east side.
The guy that redid the lock gate grading and placement of the new boulder came from and returned via the road between the LG and the road we used for the go around for the lock gate. We could plainly see the fresh tracks of his bulldozer. That road heads northerly and my GPS & GE both show it as a dead end. Anyway, I suspect that is where his ranch base is located?
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[*] posted on 4-16-2015 at 04:15 PM


So -- does anybody think the wash just below the Lock Gate Is Saiz or is it Jamau? That would be the wash Ken and crew drove from the north and arrived at /near the lock gate.
I do not have a trace on the Enigi map to allow me to make a judgement.
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[*] posted on 4-16-2015 at 04:18 PM


Hi Paul, Google Earth is real handy to get waypoints of points along the road. The area of Basketball Hill is under cloud cover on GE, but clear as a bell on Bing... pick Bing here: http://www.flashearth.com/

Just move the screen so that the target spot is in the small cross-hair in the center and read the GPS. You have to choose between decimal degrees or degrees, minutes and seconds. The decimal minutes we typically use will need to be converted from either of the others. You can enter them in the GE go box and it will convert it, or use one of the map datum converters on the Internet: http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/degrees-minutes-seconds-tofr... or http://www.onlineconversion.com/map_decimaldegrees.htm or http://www.directionsmag.com/site/latlong-converter/




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Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
So -- does anybody think the wash just below the Lock Gate Is Saiz or is it Jamau? That would be the wash Ken and crew drove from the north and arrived at /near the lock gate.
I do not have a trace on the Enigi map to allow me to make a judgement.
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El Sáiz, per Gulick and per Baja Almanac.




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[*] posted on 4-16-2015 at 05:43 PM


Here is from the Inegi digital site... and El Sáiz is listed along the arroyo, up in the canyon... with the added large block names and arrow from me





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[*] posted on 4-16-2015 at 06:41 PM
Improved instructions for INIGI download


Now I am in the states and I get a mix of spanish and english.
Here are the key strokes
www.inegi.org.mx
Geografica or Geography
Choose first =Themes
Choose Topography
Top of the list - click on first one = Cartas topography
In the first box highlight and type H11B25 then Search=Buscar
Click on the title of the first entry
Click on Discharge
Click on PDF and save

Works good
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Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Here is from the Inegi digital site... and El Sáiz is listed along the arroyo, up in the canyon... with the added large block names and arrow from me

And A/C Jamau is missing. Can u tell where it is?
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[*] posted on 4-16-2015 at 07:14 PM


here are Saiz and Jamau on the INEGI map
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[*] posted on 4-16-2015 at 07:20 PM


and here is the same in Google Earth:






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[*] posted on 4-16-2015 at 07:30 PM


so, how about the secret airstrip east of Guatamote cattle camp?
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[*] posted on 4-16-2015 at 07:32 PM


Harald, Can you send me a KML file for the siaz & Jamau pic ?
Thanks, Paul<pwpc@sisna.com>

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Harald, Can you send me a KML file for the siaz & Jamau pic ?
Thanks, Paul<pwpc@sisna.com>

[Edited on 4-17-2015 by PaulW]


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[*] posted on 4-17-2015 at 07:18 AM


There are many secret runways in Baja... and not all have been ditched by the military!



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Quote: Originally posted by David K  
Here is from the Inegi digital site... and El Sáiz is listed along the arroyo, up in the canyon... with the added large block names and arrow from me


And A/C Jamau is missing. Can u tell where it is?


As Harald showed on the bigger area map, it is southeast from El Sáiz.

I think a lot of confusion comes from the double use of the name 'Jamau'.?

The original Pole Line Road route comes off the summit and is called Portezuelo de Jamau. Several miles south is a different canyon, and arroyo named Jamau (above the old ranch site of Jamau).





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[*] posted on 4-17-2015 at 07:55 AM


Rancho Jamau, Cerro Jamau, Cańon Jamau, Jamau (location)






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My hand is not enough steady for the Flash earth drill. Do you have a trick?
The image sure is better
I will keep trying
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Just move the screen so that the target spot is in the small cross-hair in the center and read the GPS. You have to choose between decimal degrees or degrees, minutes and seconds. The decimal minutes we typically use will need to be converted from either of the others. You can enter them in the GE go box and it will convert it, or use one of the map datum converters on the Internet: http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/degrees-minutes-seconds-tofr... or http://www.onlineconversion.com/map_decimaldegrees.htm or http://www.directionsmag.com/site/latlong-converter/


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Quote: Originally posted by PaulW  
My hand is not enough steady for the Flash earth drill. Do you have a trick?
The image sure is better
I will keep trying
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1) Go to http://flashearth.com
2) On the left menu box click Bing Maps
3) Zoom in to where in the world you want to see, or enter a GPS waypoint in the Search box.

OR, just go to Bing Maps: http://bing.com/maps and zoom in. You can pick Bird's Eye or Aerial for two different images of the same place.



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[*] posted on 4-18-2015 at 05:03 PM
Photos from Sheri...


Sheri sent me a disc with the photos she took during the Pole Line Run.
Here are 25 of them:


Cohabuzo Junction






Saturday Night Camp, Arroyo el Sáiz


Karl and Harald




Coleman Insta-Tent, easy even in wind!


Pop up camper, even easier!


Sunday morning on the 1942 Pole Line Road, eastbound.





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Cobblestone Road






Great shot of Basketball Hill climb.


Arroyo Jaquegel looking west from the Suzuki wreck area.


Why the road has its name.


German 4X4 Camp in Arroyo Jaquegel, Sunday night.


Road building!


The good road from the wells out to Hwy. 5 at La Ventana.

Thank you for sharing Sheri!!!




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