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chuckie
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McStays
Morning news indicates the bodies of what may be the McStay's have been found in the desert...Watch for more....
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nobaddays
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So it looks like it was the killers who fled to Mexico in the MCstays car.
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bajaguy
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Found
Positive ID made on husband & wife, pending on 2 children:
http://www.cbs8.com/story/23976542/bodies-found-in-desert-ar...
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BajaBlanca
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Just horrific.
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Whale-ista
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This author had it right about McStay family, sadly...
From http://m.barnesandnoble.com/w/no-good-byes-rick-baker/111415...
On February 4, 2010, the McStay family of four mysteriously vanished from their Southern California home.
In the past three years, the FBI, Homeland Security, Interpol, the Mexican Federales, as well as numerous National Missing Persons agencies have all
investigated this disappearance to no avail.
Unconfirmed sightings of the family have been reported along the East Coast of the U.S. from New Jersey to Florida, as well as Mexico, Costa Rica and
Haiti.
Yet, the $25,000 cash reward for finding the family remains unclaimed.
What happened to Joseph, Summer, Gianni, and Joseph Mateo McStay?
Did one or all of them meet with foul play by a family member, as some believe, or did they decide to start a new life somewhere else? Are there four
bodies buried in a shallow Southern California grave, or are Joseph and Summer watching all this commotion from afar, smiling as they sip their
margaritas?
Rick Baker is one of the foremost authorities on the McStay case, having spent countless hours in the past three years investigating and researching
this mystery. He has followed an extensive paper trail, interviewed friends and family, and traveled to locations where sightings have been reported.
This is his account of what may have transpired leading up to and following the disappearance.
[Edited on 11-16-2013 by Whale-ista]
\"Probably the airplanes will bring week-enders from Los Angeles before long, and the beautiful poor bedraggled old town will bloom with a
Floridian ugliness.\" (John Steinbeck, 1940, discussing the future of La Paz, BCS, Mexico)
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Bajahowodd
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There was much posted on this forum when they first disappeared.
Seems to me that whoever did this really had a beef with Mcstay. Perhaps he was not a nice man.
But, from the "reported" sightings of the family walking through the gates at San Ysidro, to the purported sightings in El Rosario, it turns out to be
BS.
And btw jim, your link won't work. Talk to Doug about why not.
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Bajahowodd
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Apparently Mcstay was no one of the good guys and really made some violent enemies.
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monoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Apparently Mcstay was no one of the good guys and really made some violent enemies. |
Sounds to me like they
crossed paths with a psychopath. Even the cartels in Mexico rarely kill the whole family over bad business.
"The future ain't what it used to be"
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajahowodd
Apparently Mcstay was no one of the good guys and really made some violent enemies. |
Why guess?
We'll probably never know.
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by monoloco
Sounds to me like they crossed paths with a psychopath. Even the cartels in Mexico rarely kill the whole family over bad business.
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Not so:
http://articles.latimes.com/1998/sep/18/news/mn-24019
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grace59
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How sad, especially for the children who were not involved in whatever their Parent(s) were involved in....I was hoping for a happier ending!
Whenever I hear that rainy, chill wind blow. I think it may be time to head for Mexico. Tengo que obedecer mi corazon!
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BajaNomad
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https://www.facebook.com/BringTheMcStayFamilyHome
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desertcpl
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Mcstays have been found
http://news.yahoo.com/sheriff-bodies-found-desert-missing-co...
they have been found dead and the children in the desert
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durrelllrobert
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Despite presistant reports of sightings in Baja
.. the McStay family was found in the US.
Los Angeles Times-
by James Rainey-1 hour ago
Nearly four years ago, the McStays left their snug home in suburban San Diego County on a chilly February evening. Piling into their Isuzu Trooper,
parents Joseph and Summer and young sons Gianni and Joseph Jr. left behind two dogs, two bowls of popcorn and, soon, a mystery.
Their car turned up four days later in the parking lot of a mini-mall near the Mexican border, with a few birthday toys for one of the boys tossed in
back. But there was no sign of the McStays.
Some 1,374 days later and about 100 miles to the north, San Bernardino County sheriff's deputies uncovered the skeletal remains of the parents and two
small bodies believed to be their boys, authorities said Friday. An off-road motorcyclist had noticed a few scattered bones four days earlier, near
what turned out to be a pair of shallow graves on the edge of the desert outside Victorville.
Bob Durrell
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EnsenadaDr
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The only sighting I have heard of is the very blurry picture of a family crossing the border that had a wife, a tall man and two small children but
the identities could not be confirmed.My son mentioned that if they had had a gun in the house this might not have happened. | Quote: | Originally posted by durrelllrobert
.. the McStay family was found in the US.
Los Angeles Times-
by James Rainey-1 hour ago
Nearly four years ago, the McStays left their snug home in suburban San Diego County on a chilly February evening. Piling into their Isuzu Trooper,
parents Joseph and Summer and young sons Gianni and Joseph Jr. left behind two dogs, two bowls of popcorn and, soon, a mystery.
Their car turned up four days later in the parking lot of a mini-mall near the Mexican border, with a few birthday toys for one of the boys tossed in
back. But there was no sign of the McStays.
Some 1,374 days later and about 100 miles to the north, San Bernardino County sheriff's deputies uncovered the skeletal remains of the parents and two
small bodies believed to be their boys, authorities said Friday. An off-road motorcyclist had noticed a few scattered bones four days earlier, near
what turned out to be a pair of shallow graves on the edge of the desert outside Victorville. |
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
The only sighting I have heard of is the very blurry picture of a family crossing the border that had a wife, a tall man and two small children but
the identities could not be confirmed. |
Unbelievable, the poor quality of the video, considering the importance Homeland Security places on border protection...or says they do anyway.
I would bet videos of us passing into the US aren't of such poor quality.
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EnsenadaDr
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Yes the US was so insistent about Mexico being the solution to the crime that they overlooked the real killers. Who did kill the family? I can find
no past criminal activity on the husband or the family. Who would go to such lengths to bury the family in the Mojave Desert and leaving their Isuzu
Trooper vehicle at the San Ysidro/Tijuana border as a decoy? From last reports, there was $100,000 left in their bank accounts when they disappeared.
Now maybe after pointing fingers to Mexico and the family possibly leaving the US behind the San Diego Sheriff's Department can concentrate on finding
the real killers. | Quote: | Originally posted by DENNIS
| Quote: | Originally posted by EnsenadaDr
The only sighting I have heard of is the very blurry picture of a family crossing the border that had a wife, a tall man and two small children but
the identities could not be confirmed. |
Unbelievable, the poor quality of the video, considering the importance Homeland Security places on border protection...or says they do anyway.
I would bet videos of us passing into the US aren't of such poor quality. |
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bajario
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"Unbelievable, the poor quality of the video, considering the importance Homeland Security places on border protection...or says they do anyway.
I would bet videos of us passing into the US aren't of such poor quality. "
I dunno Dennis. Every time they show a bank, ATM, or gas station robber the pictures are terrible with limited range. Every time I ask my self why
skimp on surveillance?
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DENNIS
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| Quote: | Originally posted by bajario
I dunno Dennis. Every time they show a bank, ATM, or gas station robber the pictures are terrible with limited range. Every time I ask my self why
skimp on surveillance? |
Yeah...I know. Those vids are terrible. One would think the insurance companies would insist on better equipment......or, are we the insurance
company?
I'm starting to need a box of beer.
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EnsenadaDr
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The cost of the time per hour and manpower to review millions of people crossing the border each year would be unrealistic.
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