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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 03:12 PM


Yeah, He is hiking now (1:16). His location does not make sense to me.

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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 03:16 PM
Mark is Spotting his route!


3 today so far!

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Here is the image showing the progress across the playa (dry lake valley 'Laguna Seca':



Here is the relationship of where he is today to where he was last week in Salsipuedes:



Here is a close up showing how he has run out of flat terrain and has an uphill challenge to get over to the Salsipuedes drainage:





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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 03:34 PM
1-3-14 on Map


To give an idea of the approx. location of Mark, on the Almanac map:





The distance from #6 to #9 is about 10km. (6 miles).

Spot numbers as shown in previous sat images used on map, keep in mind they will change on Spot's map as time progresses.



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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 03:39 PM


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Yeah, He is hiking now (1:16). His location does not make sense to me.

Latitude: 29.25542, Longitude: -113.92949


Nor to me. If he wants to access La Botica Dry Lake he needs to be heading in a more northerly direction it seems to me. It's possible that he will locate a wash running NE that leads back into Botica Dry Lake, but it is a round-a-bout way to get there, I am thinking, and not near where ESG and company were camped as I understand it.

I don't know-------------?

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On edit-------perhaps he simply wants to access a side canyon that may join Salsipuedes further down canyon that he achieved several days ago?!?!?!? and really is not ready, or even wanting to, access La Botica dry lake since he knows that is a dead end for his bike due to the dry waterfall in La Botica Canyon. (I understand he is hiking, not biking, this time).

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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 03:43 PM


He is not going to La Botica per his Spot... he is heading right towards where he was before, but if he gets over the saddle between Cerro Salsipuedes and Cerro Colorado he will have another, closer arroyo to follow to get into the main Salsipuedes wash.



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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 03:48 PM


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He is not going to La Botica per his Spot... he is heading right towards where he was before, but if he gets over the saddle between Cerro Salsipuedes and Cerro Colorado he will have another, closer arroyo to follow to get into the main Salsipuedes wash.


Yep------bingo!!!

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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 03:57 PM


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He is not going to La Botica per his Spot... he is heading right towards where he was before, but if he gets over the saddle between Cerro Salsipuedes and Cerro Colorado he will have another, closer arroyo to follow to get into the main Salsipuedes wash.


Yep------bingo!!!

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He may be going in circles... but he is in the heart of Baja doing it! Erle Stanley Gardner and Choral Pepper would be very proud of him for having a desert adventure like this!





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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 04:06 PM


Yep, but he has about an 1,800 elevation hump to climb before he gets to the north heading arroyo. Not a good route in my opinion. On GE the north arroyo looks rough, hope he is just hiking for a look-see.



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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 04:10 PM


RE Circles, if he goes this way, he only bypasses about a mile and a half of the canyon where he was before. I think he should check the way Earle went.



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Well, it's fun to second-guess from the peanut gallery (which of course I am doing) but the truth is, at least for me, I am suffering from incredible ENVY------------I sure like the spirit of adventure this guy is displaying, and wish him every success as long as he is willing to share it with us. :yes: :lol:

Just being "out there" doing what he is doing is an inspiration to me, no matter his successes or failures-------------it's ALL GOOD!!!!!

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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 04:23 PM


Barry, I wish I was 70 years younger, I'm be with him. :lol::lol::lol::lol:



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Barry, I wish I was 70 years younger, I'm be with him. :lol::lol::lol::lol:


Yep-----I would settle for just 20 years younger--------I was just looking at ROKON ad's on the net and was drooling on my keyboard!!! But even a ROKON may not be able to get in to THIS country, from the top. :light:

I have always wondered why the ESG crowd, and others on quads, have not/did not go up Salsipuedes as far as they could just to see what's possible? Same with Asamblea. It's been eating at me ever since I read HOVERING OVER BAJA and was never clear to me how far they actually went. What incredibly wild and beautiful country!

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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 04:45 PM


I checked out Bill B's Rokon a few years ago and laid it down to see if I could get it up again (200 lb dry). Nope.:lol::lol::lol:



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[*] posted on 1-3-2014 at 06:14 PM


Well, no new Spot signals since 1:16pm (#9)... Yes, this is great armchair adventure for us old guys at home... but what I would give to be there with Mark or on any Baja adventure! Melchior Diaz is calling me! LOL



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I checked out Bill B's Rokon a few years ago and laid it down to see if I could get it up again (200 lb dry). Nope.:lol::lol::lol:


The new one's weigh in at 218 lbs dry!!! a leg bone-crusher if one lost control. Ouch!!!

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I checked out Bill B's Rokon a few years ago and laid it down to see if I could get it up again (200 lb dry). Nope.:lol::lol::lol:


The new one's weigh in at 218 lbs dry!!! a leg bone-crusher if one lost control. Ouch!!!

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Looks like Mark's getting an early start making his way over that saddle...
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Looks like Mark's getting an early start making his way over that saddle...


Great news... he does seem to be at the top of the divide and about to enter the Salsipuedes watershed.


#9 was yesterday, #10 this morning.

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[*] posted on 1-4-2014 at 11:01 AM


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Barry, I wish I was 70 years younger, I'm be with him. :lol::lol::lol::lol:


Yep-----I would settle for just 20 years younger--------I was just looking at ROKON ad's on the net and was drooling on my keyboard!!! But even a ROKON may not be able to get in to THIS country, from the top. :light:

I have always wondered why the ESG crowd, and others on quads, have not/did not go up Salsipuedes as far as they could just to see what's possible? Same with Asamblea. It's been eating at me ever since I read HOVERING OVER BAJA and was never clear to me how far they actually went. What incredibly wild and beautiful country!

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I was hoping that he would try that saddle. Once he hits that Salsipuedes finger he will be able to go all the way. I just imagine that saddle is pretty rugged. The guys on the 2010 trip made it from the beach all the way up to Botica dry lake on quads. I don't think they tried that saddle.

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We did go as far as we could go with what we had back in '04. The second trip in 2010 they made it much farther and were much better prepared. You are right about the beautiful country, the pink ash hills are spectacular. Nothing like I have ever seen in my life. There are some pink ash hills in the Candeleros canyon just down the wash towards the water from where mark is now. Much smaller scale but beautiful.




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Barry, I wish I was 70 years younger, I'm be with him. :lol::lol::lol::lol:


Yep-----I would settle for just 20 years younger--------I was just looking at ROKON ad's on the net and was drooling on my keyboard!!! But even a ROKON may not be able to get in to THIS country, from the top. :light:

I have always wondered why the ESG crowd, and others on quads, have not/did not go up Salsipuedes as far as they could just to see what's possible? Same with Asamblea. It's been eating at me ever since I read HOVERING OVER BAJA and was never clear to me how far they actually went. What incredibly wild and beautiful country!

(sigh)

Barry


I was hoping that he would try that saddle. Once he hits that Salsipuedes finger he will be able to go all the way. I just imagine that saddle is pretty rugged. The guys on the 2010 trip made it from the beach all the way up to Botica dry lake on quads. I don't think they tried that saddle.

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We did go as far as we could go with what we had back in '04. The second trip in 2010 they made it much farther and were much better prepared. You are right about the beautiful country, the pink ash hills are spectacular. Nothing like I have ever seen in my life. There are some pink ash hills in the Candeleros canyon just down the wash towards the water from where mark is now. Much smaller scale but beautiful.


Wow, they made it alll the way to Botica Dry lake???? but did NOT get there via Botica Canyon where the 40 foot dry water fall is??? I missed (or forgot?) that, and wonder just HOW they did it??? Perhaps by the same canyon that Mark appears to be entering now, but further down for the cross-over from the canyon to Botica dry lake!?!?!? Now we are getting somewhere. If one can get a wheeled vehicle into this canyon that Mark is entering, then that would appear to solve the access problems that EVERYBODY has been trying to solve forever!!!

This is GREAT!!!!

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