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[*] posted on 1-16-2022 at 07:15 PM


There is no test for arriving passengers to Mexico?

Mr Kid, I was referring to the opening post on this thread by Paul, (read it again), confirmed by other local press releases that a small percentage of arrivals at SJD would be tested in an effort to head off omicron.
Not sure they have implemented it, it's too late anyway.

Not sure why I even responded to you either.
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[*] posted on 1-16-2022 at 07:23 PM


Testing for arrivals is "voluntary opportunity", likely quite rare. It will likely be hard to complete this process prior to departing the airport and not in the transit area, it's unclear what or how it is to be used? I'm sure if you want, you can make your way to the testing area and pay for a test and declare you just arrived but they is no determined outcome as yet. I'm sure you can find someone to pay to test you and then charge you for quarantine.

P.S. I shared news reports that these arrival tests are voluntary only, but those posts were deleted by the admin. I'm not sure why...

I did a quick search, in response to your inquiry, here are two news stories that arrival covid testing is voluntary-not much else, except that its only for those who declare presentation of symptoms and volunteer for testing.

Nueva dinámica de pruebas de COVID-19 en el aeropuerto por la variante ómicron
El Departamento de Salud hará pruebas, de manera voluntaria y aleatoria, ante el avance de esta variante del coronavirus.
https://www.primerahora.com/noticias/puerto-rico/videos/nuev...

Same for Cruise ship arrivals

Será voluntario protocolos contra COVID-19 en cruceros
https://ahoranoticias.com.mx/sera-voluntario-protocolos-cont...

Que pruebas COVID no sean para todos en BCS; solo para quienes tengan síntomas: Salud
https://www.bcsnoticias.mx/que-pruebas-covid-no-sean-para-to...



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[*] posted on 1-16-2022 at 07:57 PM


There was an alternative news story I shared, (also deleted by admin) that Baja California, not Baja California Sur, initiated a recommendation to businesses to work together to voluntarily ask customers for either negative test within 5 days or Covid Vaccination card for service. There are no reports this is actually happening.

The only linked news story relevant left in this thread, not deleted by the admin, is this one noting BC restaurants out to ask customers for vaccination proof, or negative test within 5 days.
https://www.sandiegored.com/es/noticias/217093/Restaurantes-...


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[*] posted on 1-16-2022 at 08:20 PM


I found the original story on Yahoo. Note it refers to Baja California, not Baja California Sur which is the southern state.


These Mexico Destinations Will Require Proof of Vaccination or Negative COVID-19 Test to Enter Bars, Restaurants, and More
https://sports.yahoo.com/mexico-destinations-require-proof-v...

"However, Baja California stopped short of mandating the policy, noting showing proof of vaccination would be at the discretion of individual business owners."

Here is the official GOB announcement

DECIDIRÁN NEGOCIOS DE BC SI SOLICITAN CERTIFICADO DE VACUNACIÓN: COEPRIS
http://www.bajacalifornia.gob.mx/Prensa/Noticia/2635

It would be helpful if the admin would stop deleting important linked articles because it is very unhelpful to readers who would like to read the sourced articles.

Note: These voluntary testing or proof of vaccination in Mexico initiatives came before Supreme Court knocked down Biden's Vaccine mandates for all except health care, which will certainly fall as well. Mexico tends toward reciprocal behavior and likely was parroting the vaccine or test mandate push, but now that has all changed dramatically.

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[*] posted on 1-17-2022 at 05:08 PM


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The end of the pandemic is in sight for Britain, the World Health Organisation’s Covid chief has suggested after cases fell by more than a third in a week.



Oh yeah will it just disappear in the Spring with the warmer weather like it did in 2020??? There have been two deadly variants within 6 months. If anything I would say there will be another mutation due to Omicron being so highly contagious and the extremely high number of cases that it has wrought on the world. Just because you've had enough of Covid 19 doesn't mean it's finished with you.




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[*] posted on 1-17-2022 at 06:10 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajaben  
Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  


The end of the pandemic is in sight for Britain, the World Health Organisation’s Covid chief has suggested after cases fell by more than a third in a week.



Oh yeah will it will just disappear in the Spring with the warmer weather like it did in 2020??? There have been two deadly variants within 6 months. If anything I would say there will be another mutation due to Omicron being so highly contagious and the extremely high number of cases that it has wrought on the world. Just because you've had enough of Covid 19 doesn't mean it's finished with you.




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[*] posted on 1-17-2022 at 06:12 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajaben  
Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  


The end of the pandemic is in sight for Britain, the World Health Organisation’s Covid chief has suggested after cases fell by more than a third in a week.



Oh yeah will it will just disappear in the Spring with the warmer weather like it did in 2020??? There have been two deadly variants within 6 months. If anything I would say there will be another mutation due to Omicron being so highly contagious and the extremely high number of cases that it has wrought on the world. Just because you've had enough of Covid 19 doesn't mean it's finished with you.




A lot of experts disagree with you. The leading experts. Not fringe ones that Gnukid would quote.

As a somewhat related note. Australia has been one of the most locked downed nations in the world. They have totally changed course and have moved from trying to eradicate Covid, to living with Covid.




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[*] posted on 1-17-2022 at 06:51 PM


Schools started back up in BCS...distance learning for January and February. Not a lot of Karens here complaining about it. Most think it's a good idea.

Most people I know are vaccinated and wear a mask. And very few tell me about doing their own research either....:light:




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[*] posted on 1-17-2022 at 07:38 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JZ  

A lot of experts disagree with you. The leading experts. Not fringe ones that Gnukid would quote.



What "fringe" experts did I quote that you disagree with and show the data to disprove? Its much easier to share data than project insults and attacks at someone you disagree with?

Fauci, CDC, FDA? Be specific which link you don't like and why, instead of making personal attacks that are unsubstantiated without any reference to data fallacy and noted correction?

You have the opportunity to present any data, make your point, support it, without making personal attacks versus discussing the issues, the topic, the facts?


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[*] posted on 1-17-2022 at 08:22 PM


Quote: Originally posted by bajaben  
Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  


The end of the pandemic is in sight for Britain, the World Health Organisation’s Covid chief has suggested after cases fell by more than a third in a week.



Oh yeah will it will just disappear in the Spring with the warmer weather like it did in 2020??? There have been two deadly variants within 6 months. If anything I would say there will be another mutation due to Omicron being so highly contagious and the extremely high number of cases that it has wrought on the world. Just because you've had enough of Covid 19 doesn't mean it's finished with you.


You could be very right and the Science wrong...but I'm betting on the Scientists' statements being the more likely scenario.

This is the UK data that leads to those Scientists' predictions:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/17312623/97-per-cent-brits-h...
covid-antibodies/

Quote: "In England, 97.5 per cent of adults have Covid-busting antibodies from getting jabbed or catching the virus, they estimate.

In Wales, the figure is 96.8 per cent, in Scotland it is 97.7 per cent and in Northern Ireland it is 97.4 per cent.

The figures were calculated using blood tests up to December 23.

The NHS’s bumper booster rollout" (90 percent of over age 60 boosted) "and high case rates through the summer and autumn mean almost every person in the UK has now been vaccinated or infected.

And these antibodies – which seek and destroy the virus if it gets into the body – is helping to stave off an Omicron crisis.

They don’t prevent infections but stop most people from getting seriously ill or dying."


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[*] posted on 1-17-2022 at 09:18 PM


Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  

The end of the pandemic is in sight for Britain, the World Health Organisation’s Covid chief has suggested after cases fell by more than a third in a week.


Have you looked at the charts? Omicron is just one of several peaks on chart over 2 years. Nothing says omicron is last peak in the time continuum…

Just because current peak is ending does not mean there won’t be another peak in your future.







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[*] posted on 1-17-2022 at 09:29 PM


Imagine that, Goat and others are no longer listening to the scientists or following the science.

They are just warming up their pom-poms to cheer the virus on.





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[*] posted on 1-17-2022 at 09:42 PM


Hi MTGoat: Yes, I looked at all the charts, including rapid creation and the global distribution of the Operation Warpspeed Vaccines, the emergence of this very easily spread but milder variant, the combined build of antibodies in various countries, and how those events combined have led to this drastic decrease in Case fatality rates:

https://ourworldindata.org/mortality-risk-covid





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[*] posted on 1-17-2022 at 09:56 PM


I am looking forward to the time that the leaders of countries producing the Operation Warpspeed Vaccines finally follow what WHO has been saying constantly and begin sharing those vaccines with the countries that can't obtain them because of hoarding until they expire and are wasted uselessly.

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[*] posted on 1-17-2022 at 10:29 PM


This is what Doctors Without Borders were saying just before Omicron hit:

https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/what-we-do/news-storie...

China responds:
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-01-17/China-to-provide-anoth...




A century later and it's still just as applicable: Desiderata: http://mwkworks.com/desiderata.html
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[*] posted on 1-18-2022 at 01:30 AM


Interesting trend here. Those that poohpoohed the virus from the beginning, the antivaxers, those that refused to wear masks and even ridiculed Fauci for requesting that we wear them, those that insisted that the economy was more important than vanquishing the pandemic. Those people are now declaring that the pandemic is over. Should we be surprised?
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[*] posted on 1-18-2022 at 08:37 AM


I heard someone say “We will know the pandemic is over when we fear a positive test result more than the actual illness”.

Not sure I completely agree but as a triple vaccinated 40 year old I no longer seriously fear dying from this virus. It could happen but that’s rare.

Meanwhile, I, like many of you living in the United States, have seen around 50% (bad estimate!) of everybody I know recently get Omicron and the results are no different than a little cold. Life goes on with no repercussions. That’s good. But I know others aren’t so lucky if they’re unvaccinated or older or have co-morbidities, which I why I still try to keep my distance from others and still wear a mask.
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[*] posted on 1-18-2022 at 09:37 AM


Quote: Originally posted by Cancamo  
There is no test for arriving passengers to Mexico?


Last I'd checked, there wasn't a requirement - although it seems like a good idea. My wife and I will be taking rapid tests a few days before our departure to make sure we're not positive before boarding a plane from Boston to Los Cabos.




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[*] posted on 1-18-2022 at 10:43 AM


Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck  
This is what Doctors Without Borders were saying just before Omicron hit:

https://www.doctorswithoutborders.org/what-we-do/news-storie...

China responds:
https://news.cgtn.com/news/2022-01-17/China-to-provide-anoth...



https://it.usembassy.gov/u-s-covid-19-vaccine-donations-span...

Quote:
President Biden said America would be the world’s “arsenal of vaccines” and pledged to donate more than 1.2 billion COVID-19 vaccine doses to other countries.

“We know how to beat this pandemic: vaccines, public health measures, and collective action,” Biden said at a global COVID-19 summit September 22. A second summit is planned for early 2022.


(State Dept./B. Insley)
U.S. vaccine donations come with no political strings attached. Most are delivered through COVAX, the international partnership dedicated to equitably distributing COVID-19 vaccine doses.

Since March 2020, the United States has provided more than $19.6 billion worldwide to produce and deliver vaccines, strengthen supply chains and spur global economic recovery. The funding includes a $4 billion U.S. contribution to Gavi, the Vaccine Alliance in support of COVAX.

“The majority of vaccines donated to COVAX so far have been donated by the United States,” World Health Organization (WHO) Director-General Dr. Tedros Adhanom Ghebreyesus said December 6.
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[*] posted on 1-18-2022 at 11:23 AM


Hi PurdyD: Thanks for that response. Good to see these pledges as this is presently where the battle to win influence in Africa is being fought. China as usual likes to point to their commitment to the wellbeing of Africa and any lacking from G7 countries to do likewise comes at a significant cost.



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