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digcolnagos
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Proof of residency
Will be moving down on Oct. 1. House lease secured. Utilities are included in rent, so how do I prove my address when I go for a resident card, and
IMSS? Everything I've found online says "utility bill or equivalent," but I'm stumped for "equivalent." I'll be getting a lease contract, but not sure
how much force that might have--it'll probably be a piece of paper signed by me and the landlord.
Just looking for a way to get proof of residency without a utility bill.
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it is best to use a facilitator in your area to get your resident card. It may have to be started at your home Mex consulate though. Once you have
that card, it will have a CURP number on it. With that number you can sign up for IMSS etc. Without the CURP you will not get anything in Mexico.
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Good council from 4x4
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In the case mentioned by the original post, the landlord would have to provide a recent bill. If you are using it to register a car, you will need him
a to attest that you are able to use that address as your own.
We recently registered a vehicle and the daughter and residing family member of the owner who temporarily resided elsewhere was not initially accepted
as the attesting owner of the residence we have always used as our permanent address.
After she argued vehemently with the Clerk, she was finally approved and we could use that address. I should note...the three prior stamping clerks
had no issues with that address. Good luck.
Using a facilitator at INM and SAT, everything went very fast and no issues, tho I suspect given we were rushed to the front of the line, there was
some money changing hands.
[Edited on 8-4-2024 by JDCanuck]
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digcolnagos
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Quote: Originally posted by 4x4abc  | | it is best to use a facilitator in your area to get your resident card. It may have to be started at your home Mex consulate though. Once you have
that card, it will have a CURP number on it. With that number you can sign up for IMSS etc. Without the CURP you will not get anything in Mexico.
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Expat I talked with whose temporary is up for renewal told me he was quoted $1,200 USD to handle a renewal, which struck me as a lot of money, given
he already has a residency card. If I have to pay it, I'll have to pay it. As I understand it, IMSS will still require proof of address, so the
residency card alone wouldn't suffice. If there's a "going rate" for facilitators, would love to hear it. I'm confident I have the part in the U.S.
under control.
And thanks for the help. I have a zillion questions and am trying to figure stuff out as much as possible without asking stupid questions. The plan is
to stay a year and if I like it as much as I think I will, stay a lot longer. And learn Spanish ASAP.
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There's no reason to hire a facilitator to renew a temporary residency or complete the original residency process at INM Mexico offices, unless you
have no interest in learning how to do things in Mexico and want others to do things for you- the processes are quite straightforward.
Yes, you might have to wait in line-ups, although most government offices operate on the 'take a number, sit down and wait your turn ' system, so
bring a book and relax- most people applying for residency or renewals are retired and don't have some busy schedule Preventing them from doing this.
And $1200 US sounds like an outrageous rip-off.
As far as proving residency, as others have said, just bring a recent utility bill with the address, and some verification from the landlord that he
is renting to you. A notarized letter would be good- bureaucrats love official-looking paperwork with stamps on them.
[Edited on 8-3-2024 by surabi]
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Yes, they do. Never used it for immigration purposes, but 20 years ago the car I originally drove into Mexico died- it wasn't going anywhere under its
own steam ever again. It was in Mexico under my temp resident TIP. I gave it to one of my workers to use for parts, (he towed it away) as he had a
similar car.
I went to a notary with a copy of my worker's ID and a letter from him stating I had given him the non-functional car for free for parts, and had it
notarized.
I also got a letter from my mechanic stating the car was dead and couldn't be fixed, and photos of it being towed away. I wanted to bring another
vehicle in, so my idea was tohave proof that I hadn't sold it in Mexico.
As it turned out, the old car never came on the computer when I drove another vehicle in on a new TIP, so I never presented any of that paperwork.
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Yes Notarios do provide this service
i got my permanent residency About a year ago. Super simple.
Don't understand why one would apply for a temporary resident card that you have to renew and pay for the renewal
Permanent is for life and you don't pay to renew it
Just saying 
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digcolnagos
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| Quote: Originally posted by ligui | Yes Notarios do provide this service
i got my permanent residency About a year ago. Super simple.
Don't understand why one would apply for a temporary resident card that you have to renew and pay for the renewal
Permanent is for life and you don't pay to renew it
Just saying
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I'm doing temporary because I don't want to replace my car. As a temporary resident, I can use it for four years and be legal. By then, I'll,
hopefully, know enough Spanish and have the lay of the land so I can buy a Mexican-plated car.
Maybe the best way to start out is spring for a translator as opposed to a facilitator to get the card and IMSS.
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I'm sure everyone's experience in working on this will be different then my own.
I made an appointment with the Mexican consultant in Denver and filled out all of the information that they required.
Went to my appointment and met the person in charge of interviews. Had a nice conversation about why I wanted to get temporary residency and be a
part of Mexican community
She said that with a permanent residency card I would not have to renew.
Because i was purchasing some property I would be an asset to helping bring more work and Outside investment to the area .
She said she would approve a permanent residency card
Quick trip to immigration in Loreto
Finger prints / photo. Week later fresh card in hand.
Done for life.
Was pretty happy. Way to Mexico !!!
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Some people can't meet the financial requirements for permanente, is another reason some go for temporary.
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"Maybe the best way to start out is spring for a translator as opposed to a facilitator to get the card and IMSS."
We paid the facilitator 700, they interpreted at each stage, arranged to have us bring all the necessary documents, did everything in La Paz INM the
following day in 1/2 hour including pictures and fingerprints and we were done. Without the facilitator it would have required appointments at the
Embassy in Canada with necessary required financial supporting info, an extra trip to Mexico to finalize and would have actually cost more. Temporary
does have a few advantages over permanent including the use of your foreign registered vehicle.
The RFC was obtained on a second visit to La Paz and she charged us another 200 to translate and facilitate that after making an appointment for us
at the SAT office on the Malecon. This was done 2 years ago, so costs are likely higher now.
I should also mention we were a special case as we did not have a valid FMM and the facilitator was recommended to us if we wanted to apply for
Temporary residence by the clerk at the INM office. They obviously had worked with her in the past and gave us a card with her contact info.
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| Quote: Originally posted by lencho | | Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | I went to a notary with a copy of my worker's ID and a letter from him stating I had given him the non-functional car for free for parts, and had it
notarized. |
Interesting. So what did that even mean, if he didn't actually see the worker sign it?
That's a little different from my concept of a notarized document in the U.S. |
As I recall (it was many years ago) we had a witness to his signature, who also signed it. I was really only concerned at the time with having some
official-looking piece of paper, in case I needed it.
You shoulda seen that car- in addition to being mechanically kaput, it had become a total rust bucket, the back bumper was falling off, and I had
lived in a place where the were lots of land crabs- they are like rats or goats- they eat everything and anything. I had forgotten to close the car
windows one night and the land crabs climbed in and ate all the upholstery.
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Here is a Youtube video interviewing a facilitator in La Paz and the conditions that existed at that time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdDL5er1l1I
Here are the additional costs paid to the Mexican Government for various types of Residency updated as of Jan this year.
https://mexicorelocationguide.com/immigration-fees-in-mexico...
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proof of residency
I really like this post! Does anyone have an EXACT list of what documents are required to complete the CANJE 30 day process at the INM office in La
Paz?
For: a Permanent residency card.
Here is what I have so far. Please let me know if anything is missing.
- Original and photocopies of US passport.
- visa application online and printed
- basic form printed and filled out in blue ink
- e-FMM account set up. print FMM after entrance to Mexico
- Payment form. - pay fees by credit card
- Cover letter petitioning the INM to facilitate a Canje procedure for a permanent residency card.
- Utility Bill
- google map screenshot indicating my local La Paz address.
Can anyone advise if anything else is needed? Or if I am missing anything?
for example: are any other letters required? Notarized or otherwise? Are bank statements needed or proof of income required? Photocopies required?
I do find this project very tedious however, I am a do-it-yourself person and I do enjoy learning about how to get things done on my own.
Any advice or suggestions that would help me get through a smoothe and quick meeting at the INM would be greatly appreciated!!!
Thank you so much!!
BLUE REGENT
| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | There's no reason to hire a facilitator to renew a temporary residency or complete the original residency process at INM Mexico offices, unless you
have no interest in learning how to do things in Mexico and want others to do things for you- the processes are quite straightforward.
Yes, you might have to wait in line-ups, although most government offices operate on the 'take a number, sit down and wait your turn ' system, so
bring a book and relax- most people applying for residency or renewals are retired and don't have some busy schedule Preventing them from doing this.
And $1200 US sounds like an outrageous rip-off.
As far as proving residency, as others have said, just bring a recent utility bill with the address, and some verification from the landlord that he
is renting to you. A notarized letter would be good- bureaucrats love official-looking paperwork with stamps on them.
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| Quote: Originally posted by BlueRegent |
Any advice or suggestions that would help me get through a smoothe and quick meeting at the INM would be greatly appreciated!!!
Thank you so much!!
BLUE REGENT
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Which Mexican Consulate are you going to use to start the process?
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When we contacted the Mexican Consulate in Canada, they referred us to a local facilitator here in Canada to advise us on all the conditions and
paperwork we would need before they would give us an appointment to visit them. Then after we had assured them of having done that, they would give us
a date to travel with everything we needed to see them in person at a date when they were free to meet with us.
What has your local Mexican Consulate provided you with for info on what documentation to prove your financial requirements before your interview?
I do know about 3 years ago, the financial requirements of net worth and steady income were boosted quite significantly, and the average Canadian
retiree would have to provide much more info regarding net worth than they would have needed previously as the steady income was far lower previously.
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| Quote: Originally posted by JDCanuck |
I do know about 3 years ago, the financial requirements of net worth and steady income were boosted quite significantly, and the average Canadian
retiree would have to provide much more info regarding net worth than they would have needed previously as the steady income was far lower previously.
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Approximately how much monthly income and net worth would a potential resident have to have?
If you are not living on the edge, you are taking up too much space!
"Could do better if he tried!" Report card comments from most of my grade school teachers. Sadly, still true!
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Just Google "Financial requirements for Mexican permanent residency 2024".
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| Quote: Originally posted by surabi | | Some people can't meet the financial requirements for permanente, is another reason some go for temporary. |
I think I may have been misinformed/confused. So long as I keep my car in Baja, I think I can keep it as long as I like, so going straight to
permanent would seem the smart move. Hopefully, the consulate will allow me to change when I arrive to apply for the visa.
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