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Ateo
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Will Trump Take On The Cartels?
Well, we all know there will be a lot of ramifications having Trump as the leader of the United States as it relates to Mexico.
Lots of news reports out there talking about him taking on the cartels.
I can’t really imagine American military inside of Mexico but it’s happened before and there’s nothing written in stone that says it can’t
happen again.
No, I didn’t create this topic to see how fast it gets sent to OT so let’s try to keep things reasonably professional here.
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He seems serious about tackling the cartel led fentanyl and human smuggling issues. I hope Sheinbaum realizes if they work together Mexico will
benefit greatly. Hard to argue that Mexico hasnt been hit hard with the violence, corruption.
I am hopeful on this topic.
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Make Baja Great Again
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Think if the bad boys are labeled terrorists by official groups, it's then open season on them. Send in SEALS.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/desi...
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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The news has reported that one of the many first things President Trump did on day one was to officially designate the Mexican drug cartels terrorist
organizations.
In regards to both the new cartels designation and President Trump's stated intension of mass deportations, I am waiting to see what this ends up
being, and the effect it might have on US-Mexico relations. More specifically, how it might effect my experience in Mexico as a tourist.
[Edited on 1-22-2025 by cupcake]
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So far Sheinbaum seems to be handling cross border negotiations with exceptional diplomacy. She might very well welcome any involvement from the US on
cartels, smuggling etc. She can play the good guy and let Trump take the bad guy side.
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Leave it to JZ to ignore the "No, I didn’t create this topic to see how fast it gets sent to OT so let’s try to keep things reasonably
professional here" and invoke MAGA-based slogans.
[Edited on 1-21-2025 by surabi]
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Tioloco
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surabi- Have you an actual opinion on topic?
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Think JZ is saying the bad boys in Baja suck and MX can't do anything to stop them from making drugs and shipping it to the US. Don't think MX is
capable of stopping the drug activity.
Think the US is fully capable of taking apart the bad boy factories one by one. Obviously not at the border -- but by going in and engaging them.
I could be wrong.
US Marines: providing enemies of America an opportunity to die for their country since 1775.
What I say before any important decision.
F*ck it.
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Tioloco
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Quote: Originally posted by Lee  |
Think JZ is saying the bad boys in Baja suck and MX can't do anything to stop them from making drugs and shipping it to the US. Don't think MX is
capable of stopping the drug activity.
Think the US is fully capable of taking apart the bad boy factories one by one. Obviously not at the border -- but by going in and engaging them.
I could be wrong. |
I think you are right. Will be very interesting to see how this goes.
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| Quote: Originally posted by Lee |
Think JZ is saying the bad boys in Baja suck and MX can't do anything to stop them from making drugs and shipping it to the US. Don't think MX is
capable of stopping the drug activity.
Think the US is fully capable of taking apart the bad boy factories one by one. Obviously not at the border -- but by going in and engaging them.
I could be wrong. |
Bingo.
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Oh, just great, more blood, more murders. A never-ending war....again. If the US military participates, and if it's a success, as soon as victory is
declared and the troops leave, the cartels will be right back at it, feeding American drug users.
I'm totally against having US "boots on the ground" in Mexico, killing Mexicans. Totally. Totally. Totally.
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | Oh, just great, more blood, more murders. A never-ending war....again. If the US military participates, and if it's a success, as soon as victory is
declared and the troops leave, the cartels will be right back at it, feeding American drug users.
I'm totally against having US "boots on the ground" in Mexico, killing Mexicans. Totally. Totally. Totally.
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But you're okay with 100,000 young Americans dying every year from Fentanyl?
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | Oh, just great, more blood, more murders. A never-ending war....again. If the US military participates, and if it's a success, as soon as victory is
declared and the troops leave, the cartels will be right back at it, feeding American drug users.
I'm totally against having US "boots on the ground" in Mexico, killing Mexicans. Totally. Totally. Totally.
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But you're okay with 100,000 young Americans dying every year from Fentanyl?
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No.
Where did you get that idea?
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| Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | Oh, just great, more blood, more murders. A never-ending war....again. If the US military participates, and if it's a success, as soon as victory is
declared and the troops leave, the cartels will be right back at it, feeding American drug users.
I'm totally against having US "boots on the ground" in Mexico, killing Mexicans. Totally. Totally. Totally.
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But you're okay with 100,000 young Americans dying every year from Fentanyl?
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99.999% of the overdoses are in people that choose to take the drug. I don’t see a reason to invade a foreign country because druggies do stupid
stuff at here in usa.
Selling black market drugs is illegal, and gang activities are criminal, but it is not terrorism. Violent crime organizations are guilty of violence
and racketeering, but their crimes are not intended as terrorism, defined as violence against noncombatants to pursue political or ideological goals.
To compare a recent example from the news, the Jan 6 defendants appear more like terrorists than the Mexico-based cartels, eh?
[Edited on 1-21-2025 by mtgoat666]
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Besides, if you take out the Mexican producers, they'll just move to El Salvador or some other place. It will be whack-a-mole and go on forever. It's
billions of dollars a year.
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | Besides, if you take out the Mexican producers, they'll just move to El Salvador or some other place. It will be whack-a-mole and go on forever. It's
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Drug trade transferring to El Salvador will certainly lead to less c-ckroaches killing or robbing tourists camping on Baja beaches. Sounds like a win
win.
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Win-win does not mean sending one's problems somewhere else. Baja does not exist for the entitlement and pleasure of tourists camping on beaches.
And anyone who thinks the "war on drugs" works is incredibly naive. It has never worked and never will as long as there are buyers for drugs. And
there always will be. If it's not fentanyl, it will be something else.
Just like you don't cure obesity by withholding food, but by education, resources for people who want to lose weight, exercise, forming good eating
habits, and the overweight person's own committment to losing weight, you don't get rid of drug addiction by trying to get rid of the drugs. Drug
addictswill always find ways to get their fix and there will always be providers.
Sending American military and law enforcement into Mexico is illegal and a declaration of war.
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| Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | | Quote: Originally posted by JZ | | Quote: Originally posted by SFandH | Oh, just great, more blood, more murders. A never-ending war....again. If the US military participates, and if it's a success, as soon as victory is
declared and the troops leave, the cartels will be right back at it, feeding American drug users.
I'm totally against having US "boots on the ground" in Mexico, killing Mexicans. Totally. Totally. Totally.
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But you're okay with 100,000 young Americans dying every year from Fentanyl?
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No.
Where did you get that idea?
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 don't expect a response, you're in pee-wee's world now.....
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Trump just pardoned an online drug dealer who was sentenced to life in prison for running a darknet site that sold $200 million of illegal narcotics,
which led directly to at least 6 overdose deaths.
But yeah, US, invade Mexico to take out those drug dealers. Brown drug dealers are so much worse than white ones.
https://www.rawstory.com/silk-road/
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