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El Jefe
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Importing Solar Panels
Does it make any difference in the import duty if the solar panels that I purchase in AZ are assembled in Tijuana?
It would be a bummer to have to pay 30% on $13,000+ in solar panels that are hecho en Mexico. But I have a feeling that the NAFTA rules are not going
to favor a little guy like me.
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Bob and Susan
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you'll pay 24%
what is the address of the manufacturer in TJ??
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El Jefe
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Kyocera Mexicana, S.A. de C.V.
Blvd. Buenavista Otay, #2055
Mesa de Otay
Tijuana, BC, Mex
011-52-66-82-0111
I just got an email from the above stating that they do not have a distributor there. They do have one in La Paz, however. They sent the distributor
my email, and I await his contact. Octavio Orozco, anybody know him or his company? All I have is a name so far.
Thanks, Tom
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Bruce R Leech
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try to buy them first in Baja.
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I don't know about Mulege or La Paz but to buy them here in San Felipe they are Really spendy! get a Much better buy out of Victorville Ca. we have
bought several there! Our house is totally solar!
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Bruce R Leech
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try Mexicali
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Bob and Susan
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Bruce,
Do you have a source in Mexicali???
Tom...this info is outstanding...I'm sure the TJ location could sell panels
You would just need to talk to the correct person.
I know, I'll try next week.
We're ready to get some panels too
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Jefe
If you do end up importing the panels would you please post how the experience goes?
Things that would be helpful to know:
- which border crossing you chose,
- Manufacturer vs Dealer or retailer receipts
- if you needed "certifcates of origin" and how you got them.
and any other tips you come up with.
Thanks.
If you had planned to buy the panels from Arizona Wind &
Sun, we've found that it's hard to beat their prices and selection. Their prices on panels and batteries start out at some of the lowest you'll find
for the "good stuff" and the lack of sales tax makes them hard to beat.
Even with the cost of delivery, our experience has been that Wind & Sun will be cheaper than anyone else- even the place in Victorville.
http://www.solar-electric.com/
Let us know if you locate this Kyocera guy in La Paz. Maybe he's a distrubutor for the Shell panels that we like too. But as hard as those panels are
to get, I'm not holding my breath.
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Classic example....
.....of why NAFTA AND CAFTA are nothing but the SHAFTA for the average citizen and a greased skid for corporations.
Oh, but it's so beneficial for the 3rd world country's economy.......bullshirt! It's a one-way street.
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El Jefe
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Yes, Arizona Wind and Sun it is. I had a nice long talk with Pat the business owner today and he told me most of the ins and outs of how he will work
with you to make it as inexpensive as possible. Maybe inexpensive isn't the right term here. It costs a lot! He seems to be a good guy, and took the
time with me on the phone.
As it is, I may go to AZ to pick up as much as I can carry in my truck, and the rest (batteries and framework for rack) will have to be shipped.
It's a shame that we can't get any kind of government rebate of discount because of the ecologicalness of it all like in the states.
I have a good feeling that nobody is going to beat their prices, even when I add the tax at the border. But I do want to check out local suppliers in
Los Cabos and La Paz...just doing my due diligence. If I can net about the same cost locally, I'll go for that. But I can't afford charity right now,
so lowest responsible bidder is going to get my business. Global economy, ya know.
My builder Ian is a really honest and straight forward guy, and his recommendation after doing many of these systems in the houses he has built is to
go through AZ W&S.
Bob, if you can swing it to buy panels direct I'd love to hear about it. Maybe they have seconds or blems that would work just fine. Who knows? We
have a Mexican corporation if that helps.
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Friday I'm importing my tractor...
Every kid wants a tractor!
I'll ask the broker about importing the solar panels...for sure
and I'll look into getting panels in TJ next week.
For me...this is an EXCELLENT string..thanks
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Bruce R Leech
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Bob Please let me know how you do on the tractor?
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This is a a quickie and I do not have any first hand information but I have always heard that certain elements of a solar systems were duty free. It
would certainly be worth looking into.
Jefe...sorry I missed La Jefa...But now you know where I am!
Hasta la proxima
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| Quote: | Originally posted by El Jefe
As it is, I may go to AZ to pick up as much as I can carry in my truck, and the rest (batteries and framework for rack) will have to be shipped.
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We found it to be cheaper the other way around- we would have spent more on gas to go to AZ than it cost to UPS the panels to us (this is for a much
smaller system than it sounds like you're getting tho).
But the battery shipping can be very costly so we made arrangements to purchase the batteries (Concorde "Sun-Xtender" AGM's) through an online source
out of New Mexico, but will pick them up from the distrubutor in Azusa.
Wind -Sun is so busy that they just said "it can't be done" when we asked if we could buy the batteries from them and pick up them up from the
distributor ourselves.
But the smaller Mon-and-Pop operation in New Mexico got on the phone to Condorde and within a few minutes had it all arranged. Every little bit of
savings helps.
Another good resource is www.backwoodssolar.com
They have custom fabricated their own junction and circuit breaker boxes, connectors and other useful solar gadgets that you won't find elsewhere.
Nice and helpful guy there also.
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Importing/ smuggling solar equipment
I'm sure I will get some flak for this, but most of the goods headed southbound come through the lanes marked " Nothing to Declare". I know of one
instance when over $12,000 worth of solar goods came across in this manner. I am not encouraging the practice but simply stating the reality. It is
due in part to the excessive rate of duty that is applied. Of course I would never engage in smuggling. 
Rob
[Edited on 5-26-2005 by BajaRob]
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We learned an interesting lesson recently when we sold our former place in BCS and were trying to scrape together all the "improvements" and
deductions we could come up with in order to reduce the 35% capital gain tax.
All of the items such as solar equipment that we had "smuggled" over the years could not be applied to reduce the amount of tax that we owed on the
sale.
We still have secret compartments and techniques for bringing down some things. But for the big ticket items that will stay with the property when we
sell it, we will now pay the 17-24% Import duty to be able to write off thousands of $ later on.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by latitude26n
We learned an interesting lesson recently when we sold our former place in BCS and were trying to scrape together all the "improvements" and
deductions we could come up with in order to reduce the 35% capital gain tax.
All of the items such as solar equipment that we had "smuggled" over the years could not be applied to reduce the amount of tax that we owed on the
sale.
We still have secret compartments and techniques for bringing down some things. But for the big ticket items that will stay with the property when we
sell it, we will now pay the 17-24% Import duty to be able to write off thousands of $ later on. |
this is a vary good point . on big items like soler systems. you can figure 35% savings on this plus the duty . you should think about buying in
Mexico . this apples to all materials used in construction of your house.save Mexican receipts for everything.
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Mr. Bob, why didn't you buy your tractor in Mexico?
Why importing?
For the Santa Rosalia and Mulege area (Leech : not ara!) you can buy any tractor in Hermosillo.
John Deere, Case, McCormick, Cat, all there.
Mainland? Not a good idea?
CD Constitution, got all as well.
But Gringos don't want making business in Mexico, right?
Stupid enough you pay a lot of tax for any import, but buying in Mexico doesn't come to you.
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Importation
I have a neighbor who just brought down a Used Backhoe and the importation was relatively easy. He contacted a broker in Arizona who handled all of
the paperwork for about $250 and he paid 17 % duty at the border on the purchase price. They were somewhat skeptical of the price written on the
invoice, but finally said OK.
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well, MRBillM
like you explain, that is exactly how Gringos are:
Better cheating with a fake invoice than paying the Mexicans.
Better paying a Gringo Broker the same money the mex.Customs might charge on an invoice with the correct sales price.
GRINGO, dod you know where it comes from?
GREEN GO as it originally was.
GREEN the color of the American soldiers when occupying Mexico in the past.
But it is still valid todday > GRENN GO !
Or learn to live an honest lifestyle in this country.
Gringos want the benefits of Mexico, cheaper living as in the U.S. , better fishing, more friendly people, no street crime in Baja, etc, etc.
But don't want to support the country they are living in.
(See story about fake invoice above)
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