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[*] posted on 8-18-2005 at 10:46 PM
Big money fish


http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2...

A 344-pound blue marlin was worth $224,244 for first- place in Bisbee's East Cape Offshore Tournament in the first weekend of August. The annual tournament has become one of the world's biggest billfish events, and takes place at Buena Vista Resort in southern Baja near Cabo San Lucas.
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[*] posted on 8-19-2005 at 04:55 AM


Tournaments? Good or bad for the Sea of Cortez?
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[*] posted on 8-19-2005 at 06:09 AM


Great for people, bad for animals. People live NEAR the Sea, animals live IN the Sea. Just look at the conservation efforts by millions around the globe to preserve habitat, leave UNMOLESTED wild things roaming freely in that habitat -- then there's the tournaments. Duh!
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[*] posted on 8-19-2005 at 06:26 AM
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From an old tmer: When you would like your Post to be considered as VALID, please use your nmae and give some of the other Posters the curtsey of a Reply.
You should know, unless you are very young, that there are valid Points to be taken on both sides of a Post that seems to be made to start afight between the opposing Points.
Good, Bad, or indeferent, the Human will contuine to catch and Eat fish from the ocean, other people will Cry and whine that they are killing the Planet!

So, if you have some Valid Points, Please Post them, othersise Please leave theSpace for Factual and interesting Posts.

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[*] posted on 8-19-2005 at 06:30 AM


Anonymous? Good or bad for the Nomad forum? :?:



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[*] posted on 8-19-2005 at 08:34 AM


" ...other people will Cry and whine that they are killing the Planet!" Not true. The point is, that with irresponsible fishing techniques, poaching, subverting conservation efforts and general degradation of fish habitat, we are killing ourselves by eradicating a source of food. Mankind cannot be so shortsighted and selfish in their relatively short span of time on earth, to not consider future generations. One only needs to look back one generation to see the results of such shortsightedness and selfishness.
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[*] posted on 8-19-2005 at 08:38 AM
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Speaking for myself , I appreciate your post and as far as I'm concerned I could give a rats a** if you post anon or not. I come to the board to see what's happening in baja when I can't be there. I bet 50% of the posts on this board have nothing to do with the peninsula so info in any form is welcome to me.

What's with the few posters here that have a problem with it , I don't know . Some sort of insecurity or a little too Chilango perhaps?
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[*] posted on 8-19-2005 at 08:57 AM


Couldnt agree more, a name on a post means nothing. Post away anons.
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[*] posted on 8-19-2005 at 09:21 AM
Anonymous Assumptions


The most prevalent problem with Anonymous is when you see a bunch of them on one subject and they seem to be in conflict with each other. The assumption has been that they are DIFFERENT people, but perhaps they are all the same person suffering from multiple-personality disorder and they simply don't know who they are at any given moment. Most of the personalities seem deranged so we should give this possibility consideration.
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[*] posted on 8-19-2005 at 09:49 AM
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i just look at anons all as being deranged that way i can just ignore all of them have a good one:lol:



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[*] posted on 8-19-2005 at 10:35 AM
You said it One!


All you have to do is look back to see the Shortsightness

First; Did away with DDT cost the lives of many People

Second; The "Snail-Darter{ Debackle}

Third: The socalled "Global Warming' Non-truths.

Fourth: The ruining of the nations School Systems

Fifth: Taking away the Paddle in Schools

Sixth: The Sierra club

The Poster can find many good and Bad thngs to Post about, the only thing I was trying to get across is that they could have more Respect/Validity if they would be Proud of their Name in stead of Ashamed of their Generaration. Is it Ashamed or Frightfull?

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[*] posted on 8-19-2005 at 12:27 PM
Bisbees is a good thing....


This is a catch and release tournement and Bisbees has in fact been the front runner in establishing, promoting and implementing the catch and release billfish movement in Mexico.

Without organizations like Bisbees and a concentrated effort from all sport fishermen the old fashioned irrisponsible ways of the mexicans would not have changed and the Quaility of this fishery would have continued to erode.

Tournements and sportsfishermen have in fact saved this precious resource and are partly responsable for the small amount of regulation we are now seeing in the Sea Of Cortez.




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[*] posted on 8-19-2005 at 01:33 PM


My question still continues: Are tournaments good or bad for the Sea of Cortez? The death rate of all caught and released fish, both freshwater and saltwater is an unknown. Very few tagged fish recaptures occur preportionate to the total amount of fish tagged by conservation officials or sportsmen. Could it be that most of these fish simple die from the increased lactic acid build-up in their muscle tissues brought on by the fight against the rod and sink to the bottom? I am concerned with the dwindling fish stocks in the Sea of Cortez..which is a fact that cannot be ignored.

Roses are red, violets are blue, I am schizophrenic..and so am I. Just joking, fer chrissakes. "Levity"
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[*] posted on 8-19-2005 at 02:08 PM
Serious Post comng Tommorrow!


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[*] posted on 8-19-2005 at 02:40 PM
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How do you weigh a 300# fish and release it? Sounds like work.
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[*] posted on 8-19-2005 at 03:44 PM
A little helpful info on releasing fish...


To add a little on fish releases:

IF you catch and release. This is info to bring any novice fishermen 'up to speed' on how to correctly land and release fish. Of course this info is for freshwater species mostly, but can be amended 'somewhat' to saltwater gamefish. Be careful! Use gloves! If any are at hand, let more experienced hands do the job. Just remember the BIG difference between brookies and bills!
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[*] posted on 8-19-2005 at 05:07 PM


'move (344 lb. marlin) gently back and forth in the water, pushing water past the gills, until the fish takes of on its own volition. Don't just just give it a grand toss (!) back into the water.'

I want a picture of that! :biggrin:
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[*] posted on 8-19-2005 at 06:21 PM


Don't know about any other anon-posting fisherman here, but it's quite easy and done fairly often. We have done that many times in the past 35 years of fishing Alijos Rocks, Hurricane Banks, Sam's, and all over the East Cape and up the Cortez. Mostly you don't have to revieve the fish, he does that little trick himself...but if he IS exhausted, then holding the bill with a pair of strong non-slip gloved hands will do the trick..having the boat in forward slooowlly moving ahead passing water over the gill plates. Works for us.
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[*] posted on 8-20-2005 at 08:49 AM
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My question wasn't about the release part, but the weighing. How does the crew/fisherperson weigh the fish?
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[*] posted on 8-20-2005 at 11:48 AM


You can buy the canvas sling scales, or better yet, make your own canvas/rubber weighing sling using pvc piping and either canvas or rubber sheeting. We have made both...rubber for weighing and releasing sharks...mostly makos.
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