jrbaja
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Comitan
I notice there are a number of "Nomads" who seem to consider themselves "something" and wise in the Baja ways.
Except for the fact that they only chime in on other peoples posts rather than contributing anything themselves. Pictures, stories, history ???
Seems like pure drama, false accusations and typical gringo nonsense coming from these enclavical hombres.
Que pasa cavron, got anything to offer other than joining in with the whiners?
Ok pal, lets take it outside! And ps, bite me.
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surfer jim
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What's up with that?.....
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jrbaja
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cascabel 6
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JR,
You were doing so well. Don't start back down that path. Keep the pictures and great stories coming!
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jrbaja
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OK, sorry
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Barry A.
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Starting new threads-----
JR, I can't speak for others, but I seldom start new threads because nothing comes to mind. However, I find that other peoples posts often trigger my
memory, so I respond with my 2 cents worth.
As for pictures, I have no idea how you guys do that, and I do not have a digital camera. (My wife does, tho)
As for stories-----boy, that is a real challenge, and one that I cannot seem to respond to------besides, I know that I cannot equal the ones that are
posted by others.
Other than the lack of civility in some posts, I really enjoy this board, and love Baja California. I just hope that my 53 years of traveling in
Baja enables me to contribute something in response to others comments and questions. I thought that was what this board was all about.
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jrbaja
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Barry
First off, do you have a scanner ?
Second, I would absolutely love to hear about your first trips to Baja 53 years ago. I hear there were some fairly large abalone and lobster in
these waters then!
If Bruce and I can get away with our rambling on here, it should be fairly evident that this ain't no spelling bee or english class!
So please, share some of your history on here. That is what makes this board so fun!
And, if you have old pictures, even better. There are many on here to help you get them posted. It is a bit of work but well worth it in the sharing
dept.! Baja you know!!
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Barry A.
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Jr-------
Thanks, JR for the encouragement.
No, I do not have a scanner----I did have one but it stopped working, and have never replaced it.
I am a little embarrassed to admit that we did a lot of "free diving" between Rosarita Beach and La Mission back in l952 thru 1956 and often came up
from 8 to 15 feet down with a "bug" (lobster) in each hand, they were that plentiful. Abs (abelone) were so plentiful then that we normally did not
even harvest them, except for maybe 3 or 4 a day for personal eating. Undoubtably we were "part of the problem" then, but we honestly did not know
it. There were so many abs and lobster that it never occurred to us that they would "run out". (sound familiar??) Also, there were not that many
"taking" them back then. There were no Mexican laws against it, either, that we knew of. But, we took too many lobster, that is for sure, and I and
my friends got all our "gas and dating money" from the sale of Lobster to our friends and neighbors in the San Diego area. We took a LOT of lobster,
and now I feel badly about it, but of course, it is now too late. (When I say a lot, we dove about twice a month, each time coming home with maybe 30
to 50 lobster. ) During that time, we did not notice any reduction in Lobster-----there always seemed to be plenty.
It is also interesting to note that the abs were very common right off the cliffs at La Jolla then, is less than 12 feet of water. Very few folks
were taking them at that time. There were lobster, also, off La Jolla, but not as many as in the area mentioned above in Mexico.
We never took the big ones, tho, (lobster) as we somehow felt that they were breeders, or something, and even then we vaguely knew that it was not a
good idea to take the big ones, or so we thought. We saw some monsters, but not that often, and like I say we left them alone----(besides, they were
scary).
As for abs, we never took the small ones, vaguely feeling that it was not a good idea. Most of the ones that we "took" were in the 7 to 9 inch
variety. Also, abs were hard to get as this predated "ab irons", I believe, at least we did not have any ab irons until later on in the late 50's and
60's. We used big Marine knives, or some used a small car leaf spring. It was tough getting them off the rocks, so we did not take that many.
Lobsters were much easier, and they brought more money.
At that time I do not remember ever going south of Ensenada diving. We did go onto the San Pedro Martir plateau several times, and the mountains and
desert of the Sierra Juarez, but that is about as far south as we got in those days. Later, I did go to the southern areas but not until the '70's,
and not for diving. We were into exploring and fishing "mode" by then, mostly on the Sea of Cortez side-----San Felipe to Bahia Animas, mostly.
I have not dove for lobsters or abs for probably 30 years, or more.
In the early '80's. we did a lot of exploring of the Colorado River Delta area as there were floods for about 3 years, making the delta "come alive".
We canoed and power-boated the river from the Mex/USA border down to the Sea of Cortez several times, harvesting fresh water clams, and just generally
having a good time. The delta was like an African wildland park during those flood years. Billions of birds, coyotes, and all sorts of wildlife just
came alive during those floods-----it was amazing!!! The local Mexicans thought we were crazy, but they sure helped us launch our boats and in
general seemed to get a kick out of "crazy gringos" heading out into the wilds of the delta. They were always helpful in any way they could, and
occasionally one or two would go with us on day trips in the power-boats (and they really enjoyed it)----but they never went with is when we went in
canoes-----that was just stupid of us, from their point of view. We saw the tidal bores (waves) coming up the river at tide changes a few times, and
that was awesome. They were pretty small---maybe 20 inches tall, but still very impressive. I loved that delta area, especially in the first few
years after the flood, before the mosquitos got so bad. Later, the Mosquitos got so bad that I quit going.
That is about it. Barry
(Now that I think about it, I should have started a new thread with this
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jrbaja
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In this case
Your words are worth 1000 pictures. Thanks for sharing. I loved it. Brought to mind getting abs from Laguna Beach starting 1961 when we moved to Ca.
Good times!!
Thanks again
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bajalou
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Great memories Barry - keep them coming!!!
No Bad Days
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