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MH_Stevens
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Taking a Gun into BC?
I read in the Gringo Gazette that now Mexican gun laws have been somewhat relaxed there are no longer stiff penalties for Gringos caught smuggling
guns into Baja California. The article says that if you just "forgot" that you had left your 45 Magnum in the trunk, the maximum penalty is a $1000
fine.
Has this induced anyone to have considered (just considered - no need to admit to a crime) bringing a personal protection piece into Baja California?
Mike S
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Skeet/Loreto
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Stevens Sir!
Since you ask the Question I will Anwer:
Anyone is a Fool to bring a Gun into Baja Mexico.
With 35 yeas experience in Baja i have accumlated a Barrell of Experience about Guns in Baja{I have been caught with a 38 Pistol in my Truck}{I got
away with taking and Hunting with a Shotgun}
Because of the change of Attitudes after 911 it is a Million times more Dangerous.
Just don't do it.
Skeet/Loreto
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Don Jorge
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BS!
I agree. I just went through the process of applying for a gun permit to hunt in Mexcio. If the gringo gazette really printed that it is 1000 buck
fine for a found handgun they are really, really full of crap!
Although for bringing guns into Mexcio to hunt you no longer need your local police letter of good citizenship you do need permits from the military,
matching serial numbers on permits and guns, amount of ammo brought in, days you will be hunting and with what registered guide, and check in at
Mexcian Customs border with all your paperwork ready before entering and when leaving and much more.
Cost you about 400 bucks for the paperwork to import legally hunting shotguns, 2 per person, into Mexcio. Handguns, forget it!
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I wholeheartedly agree with the last two postings. Besides I would not put much stock on what gets put in the G.G. It does not have a good reputation
or track record.
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hey Don Jorge - when we gonna shoot us some brandts??!!
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yeah, since it's ONLY $1000, bring two!
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The Wonderer
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Do the same rules apply to BB & pellet guns?
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I think that the legal Limit is 18 Calibar for all of Mexico.
An Air Pistol looks very similar to a real Weapon. if a Trigger happy Policman sees that weapon at the wrong time, he just may snuff you thinking it
is a regular Weapon..
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MH_Stevens
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The reference from which I quoted is:Gringo Gazette, Volume 4, Issue 75, October 20, 2005, page3 in an article by A.L.Capone titled "Mexico's Smoking
Gun."
It says, "Mexican law imposes a 5-30 sentence for transporting firearms over the border. The law was relaxed in 1998 for first-time offenders who
"unintentionally" carry a single small caliber firearm (not defined), fining them $1000 with no jail time."
It may be bad advice and a silly thing to do but to me this implies its not too risky to do as long as you stop once caught.
For the record I don't speak good Spanish and have no wish to talk my way out of this sort of situation so I don't think I'll be doing it. I may sneak
my wife's 22 into her handbag and let her deal with it. Surely they will know she is genuinely an unintentional carrier?
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don't believe anything you read in the gringo gazette.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MH_Stevens
Has this induced anyone to have considered (just considered - no need to admit to a crime) bringing a personal protection piece into Baja California?
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Are you nuts?
Put it in your friends car. Have them bring it down.
(Actually, I would be more concerned with getting caught with ammo than an unloaded pistol.)
Any reloaders live down here? 
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If you don't feel secure coming to the Baja without a gun, you shouldn't be coming here. IMHO
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MH_Stevens
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While we are considering being stopped and searched by the federales, has anyone else been through the check point on 1 just north of Santo Tomas that
is half manned by uniformed manikins? I so badly wanted to take a picture but just thought it might not be welcome. My wife and I laughed out loud the
whole time the real soldiers were looking over our wagon.
Mike S
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comitan
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Mike stevens, I don't usually come on this strong, But if you have an attitude wherein you don't respect the soldiers, Mexican people, you bring a gun
you will get yourself killed. Your foregoing statements do not show respect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Have happy day in the good ol USA.
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Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Barry A.
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Comitan-----
I have tremendous respect for both Mexicans and Americans--------what does that have to do with guns???????
I am armed where-ever I go in the USA, so yes, I am slightly uncomfortable when in Mexico without one. So what is the crime here???? and why should I
stay away from Mexico????just because I am slightly uncomfortable????
I don't get it.
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comitan
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Maybe I read something into the stevens thread that wasn't there. I'm not going to get into a discussion about guns that kill so easily, and so
unforgiving.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Barry A.
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Fair enough, Comi-----
but my parting comment is that anything that "Kills" is far from "easy", and always horrible, especially when administered by bad folks against the
defenseless, be it knives, clubs, fists, cars, etc. and yes, guns.------which happens.
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Didn't anyone else catch the name of the author of that GG article?
A.L. Capone! Writing about guns!! Give me a break!!!!
Also, the manikins MS is talking about are just that! Manikins in uniform, and they are about as convincing as the manikin cops some states use. I get
a chuckle seeing them too.
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comitan
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Barry
One more for me, I think it comes to decisions when it comes time to0 possibly use a gun you really may not have the time to make the correct
decision. The police are trained to make the right decision,RIGHT???????????????
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Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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Barry A.
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Comi------that is a very good point----
and I agree that a gun in the hands of untrained folks is bad news, in most cases. Having been in and out of law enforcement for some 35 years
obviously taints my judgement, and opinions.
Mainly, I got rattled when you said that, "if uncomfortable without a firearm, you should stay out of Mexico", or something like that. I am
uncomfortable, but I am not staying out of Mexico------I just "suck up" and deal with it, and respect their laws, but I am not a happy camper doing
it, and yes, it does make me nervous.
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