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Ken Cooke
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Passports in Baja Question
Question: On what date will Passports become mandatory to visit Baja, CA?
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bajalou
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Passports arn't mandatgory to visit Baja, just to return-- Just joking Ken
Check the State Dept website but I thing by land, 2007.
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comitan
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This site is the official site with the info you want:
http://travel.state.gov/travel/cbpmc/cbpmc_2223.html
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Bob and Susan
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Jan 1, 2008 is the date...
Wiley has the site...
It's all about the dollar....
$97 for the passport (get it in 6-8 weeks)
$60 more to expidate it (get it in 2 weeks)
$15 pictures
$13.85 to ExpressMail it at your cost to tract it
Let's do the math for a family of 4....
$743.00 for the good-ole-USA...OUCH!!!
What do you think this will do to the econmy of border towns?????
NOT good for us or them.
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elgatoloco
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
Jan 1, 2008 is the date...
Wiley has the site...
It's all about the dollar....
$97 for the passport (get it in 6-8 weeks)
$60 more to expidate it (get it in 2 weeks)
$15 pictures
$13.85 to ExpressMail it at your cost to tract it
Let's do the math for a family of 4....
$743.00 for the good-ole-USA...OUCH!!!
What do you think this will do to the econmy of border towns?????
NOT good for us or them. |
I think that it will probably have an adverse effect intially. The times they are a changin'.
3 pennies a day for each member of the family over the ten year period the passport is good if you plan ahead. The cost of passport photos could go
up.
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surfer jim
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I sort of like the idea...It will keep the troublemakers out.....like bad roads...
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Sallysouth
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Yep Jim, I agree. A passport just makes life easier and safer.Specially if you need to leave the country in a hurry!!
Happiness is just a Baja memory away...
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Bob and Susan
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There is NO national security in a Passport....
It's too easy to get....
birth certificate (easy)
DL license or picture ID (easy)
application (easy)
pictures (easy)
Money!!!
"if guns were illegal then only criminals would have them"
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
Jan 1, 2008 is the date...
Wiley has the site...
It's all about the dollar....
$97 for the passport (get it in 6-8 weeks)
$60 more to expidate it (get it in 2 weeks)
$15 pictures
$13.85 to ExpressMail it at your cost to tract it
Let's do the math for a family of 4....
$743.00 for the good-ole-USA...OUCH!!!
What do you think this will do to the econmy of border towns?????
NOT good for us or them. |
Puleeze!
Why would you need to expidite if not needed for 2 years?
Cost of a passport is $112. Good for ten years.
That's $11.20 per year.
When was the last time anyone went to TJ and spent less than $12 ?
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Bedman
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My oldest daughter and her 4 kids are planning to spend a couple of weeks with us in Baja next year around Christmas time. I know what they're
gettinng for Christmas!!
doing the math.....it looks like $112 x 5 = $560.......I know they'll fit, Hope they like them!!
Bedman
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Bob and Susan
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Dave....most people don't think ahead....
They wait to the last minute.....
They "NEED" it right away.
The passport is mailed "first class" How safe is THAT???
Bedman...if the kids are under 14 then BOTH parents have to be present when applying for the passport....bring dad.
....and KID passports aren't $97 but only last 5 years....you'll SAVE!!!
Would you be my dad?
Pictures are $6-7 at Costco...SAVE at least $40
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
Dave....most people don't think ahead....
They wait to the last minute.....
They "NEED" it right away. |
Whaa?
Responsible people do.
They plan for their kids education, a home, retirement, vacations, etc.
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Al G
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| Quote: | That's $11.20 per year.
When was the last time anyone went to TJ and spent less than $12 ? |
Nobody minds just another little tax do they?
Albert G
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Taco de Baja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob and Susan
Jan 1, 2008 is the date...
Wiley has the site...
It's all about the dollar....
$97 for the passport (get it in 6-8 weeks)
$60 more to expidate it (get it in 2 weeks)
$15 pictures
$13.85 to ExpressMail it at your cost to tract it
Let's do the math for a family of 4....
$743.00 for the good-ole-USA...OUCH!!!
What do you think this will do to the econmy of border towns?????
NOT good for us or them. |
Don?t forget the other cost of going deep into Baja...The tourist visa...$20 per person for 6 months....So add in another $160 per year for the family
of 4 Or $1,600 for 10 years to good-ole-Mexico!  And that's
if the costs don't go up over the next 10 years.
Makes the pasport seem cheap, especially since you can go to other countries besides Mexico.
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rpleger
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It will help keep the Riff Raff out of Baja.
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*ABROAD*, adj. At war with savages and idiots. To be a Frenchman abroad is to
be miserable; to be an American abroad is to make others miserable.
-- Ambrose Bierce, _The Enlarged Devil\'s Dictionary_
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Hook
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Actually, it may keep......
.... a certain amount of riff-raff firmly planted in Baja. Those that crossed for nefarious reasons will not be able to get back in without one.
Remember, the passport applies to returning to the USA.
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bajajudy
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You are right on with that, Hook
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daveB
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from the other side of the fence
and ( formerly?) the longest unguarded border on the planet, we will also be caught up in your new regulations here in the north.
As somebody mentioned already, a passport is just another piece of picture I.D., of some benefit to security, but not much. Mine, for instance, states
clearly that it is not to be construed as proof of citizenship. A passport may even help an ill-meaning character entry where he's not wanted by the
fact he has one, obtained legally or illegally.
Border towns will possibly become ghost towns. Trade will suffer the most, followed by steep declines in tourism, and in due course, in mistrust (or
worse) by everyone of any one else. All this at a time when most of the world's borders are opening up.
You folks in USA can be greatfull that your passports are good for 10 years. With a shelf life of just 5 years (4 1/2 if you go out of the country for
a long trip when yours is in its declining months of validity) Canada's has about the same price tag, and just because you've had one before means
nothing. You start your application from scratch. At this moment we are waiting for new ones to arrive. With the cold rains hittting us almost daily
we're chomping the bit to be Mexico bound.
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Hook
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DaveB, I think all of us wish
the borders were more transparent. I mean, who really wants the border crossing to me MORE difficult. Not the emigrant, not the receiving country, not
the returning country.
Unfortunately, the world has, as it has before (WWI and WWII) become a dangerous place. AGAIN. And now that we have an enemy that defies
categorization by nationality, we have to put attempts at safety above convenience. It's a damn shame, but it's reality, regardless of which side of
the Iraq War or immigration issue you are on.
Europe, Asia and much of the rest of the world went through hell at one point or another in the 20th Century. Dont they require significant
identification even when members of the E.U. are traveling within the E.U.?
Yeah, just about anything can be counterfeited. Does that mean we should simply stop trying to identify anyone more seriously? I think not. If it's
the fees you object to, then maybe your populace (and mine) shuld take steps to try and reduce the fees as onerous. That's what our legislative bodies
are for. But meaningful identification needs to happen.
We do not live in a Lewis Carroll world......haven't for some time now, as much as we had hoped otherwise.
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hook
Yeah, just about anything can be counterfeited. |
Passports have numbers. And the new ones are scanned. A counterfeit passport will get you busted fer sure.
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