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djh
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Attorney for property purchase??
Hola Nomad Amigos y amigas.
I'm trying to purchase a small lot in Loreto.
I need to locate an attorney in Loreto or LaPaz who can ethically and reasonnably represent me. I've contacted two... one in LaPaz didn't want to be
bothered, and the other in CSL was prohibitively expensive... (as in waaaaay worse than ANY US atty. I've ever hired.)
A recommendation of a reputable, ethical, dependable, and fair atty. who deals with real estate would be appreciated! (some of those terms seem
mutually exclusive with "atty.", I know, I know....  )
Oh yea... and HAPPY THANKSGIVING!! Even in a world as conflicted and wierd as this one is... happiness = being thankful for what you have (misery =
constantlywanting what you don't have).
Please Email me direct! davidjameshunt@hotmail.com
Its all just stuff and some numbers.
A day spent sailing isn\'t deducted from one\'s life.
Peace, Love, and Music
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djh
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Attorney for property purchase??
Hola Nomad Amigos y amigas.
I'm trying to purchase a small lot in Loreto.
I need to locate an attorney in Loreto or LaPaz who can ethically and reasonnably represent me. I've contacted two... one in LaPaz didn't want to be
bothered, and the other in CSL was prohibitively expensive... (as in waaaaay worse than ANY US atty. I've ever hired.)
A recommendation of a reputable, ethical, dependable, and fair atty. who deals with real estate would be appreciated! (some of those terms seem
mutually exclusive with "atty.", I know, I know.... )
Oh yea... and HAPPY THANKSGIVING!! Even in a world as conflicted and wierd as this one is... happiness = being thankful for what you have (misery =
constantlywanting what you don't have).
Please Email me direct! davidjameshunt@hotmail.com
Its all just stuff and some numbers.
A day spent sailing isn\'t deducted from one\'s life.
Peace, Love, and Music
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djh
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Posts: 936
Registered: 1-2-2005
Location: Earth mostly. Loreto, N. ID, Big Island
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Mood: Mellow fellow, plays a yellow cello...
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Attorney for property purchase??
Hola Nomad Amigos y amigas.
I'm trying to purchase a small lot in Loreto.
I need to locate an attorney in Loreto or LaPaz who can ethically and reasonnably represent me. I've contacted two... one in LaPaz didn't want to be
bothered, and the other in CSL was prohibitively expensive... (as in waaaaay worse than ANY US atty. I've ever hired.)
A recommendation of a reputable, ethical, dependable, and fair atty. who deals with real estate would be appreciated! (some of those terms seem
mutually exclusive with "atty.", I know, I know.... )
Oh yea... and HAPPY THANKSGIVING!! Even in a world as conflicted and wierd as this one is... happiness = being thankful for what you have (misery =
constantlywanting what you don't have).
Please Email me direct! davidjameshunt@hotmail.com
Its all just stuff and some numbers.
A day spent sailing isn\'t deducted from one\'s life.
Peace, Love, and Music
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dawkid
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Beware of the snakes!
Just like in the U.S., most attorneys in Mexico are CROOKS but your best bet is to contact someone that has done the same transaction and hired a
trustworthy atty., there are a lot more oportunities for people to scam you south of the border, for instance; some of the transactions that a
citizen can do on it's own in the U.S. can't be done in Mexico unless you hire an atty. and a notary and there always seems to be "hidden" charges
also there isn't seem to be goverment regulations in some of these professions thus the abuses and scams...I'm mexican living in CA for about 25 years
and a couple of years ago I had to go back and help my mom with some properties and the whole thing was a nightmare, one of the things I had to do
was to change the title on a house ,
I went to consult 2 different attys. and got 2 different answers and prices, I then went to another atty. and again got a different answer, finally
thru a friend a consulted with his atty. friend and he told me something different and also said that there isn't an established percentage by law as
to what an atty. can charge for any one transaction, all this running around left me angry, confused and frustrated, later on I hooked up with one and
he wanted to charge me about
$ 7000 to change the title from one family member to another, it wasn't even a sale but a simple transfer of ownership from my mom to her brother, I
was so angry I told my uncle that I wasn't about to pay this snake 7 grand for him to simply stamp a seal on a piece of paper, the property in
question was worth only about $40,000 and I left without doing it, many of these transactions can be done by the owner here but in Mexico the system
is geared to feed scumbags and maggots like attys., the only thing they produce is gridlock and massive red tape, be careful who you hire and good
luck finding an honest one.
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comitan
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dawkid
In my opinion you could have just taken the title to a notario and gotten it changed for a small amount of money.
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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dawkid
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I didn't know who to believe
None of these people told me it was that simple and since a got very different answers I couldn't trust any of them, I had been gone a lot of years
and didn't have any contacts in town.
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comitan
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There can be many people ahead but in the end its the notario that does the title work. Remember this is just one dummies opinion.
[Edited on 11-23-2005 by comitan]
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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comitan
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Larry
Are you bored in Moscow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Strive For The Ideal, But Deal With What\'s Real.
Every day is a new day, better than the day before.(from some song)
Lord, Keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.
“The sincere pursuit of truth requires you to entertain the possibility that everything you believe to be true may in fact be false”
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dawkid
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Lencho Are you a croo... I mean a lawyer?
On my post I said "most" not "all' attys., if you're an honest one , you should agree with me...if the good attys. made an effort to clean up their
profession, I'm sure the public's opinion would change, I always said that the luckiest person in the world is the one that has 3 brothers and one
brother is a doctor, one is a mechanic and one is an atty., me ,I would be happy just to have a distant cousin that's an atty.
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dawkid
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I agree Lencho,
and I wasn't trying to discourage anybody from buying land in Baja, it seems that in Baja there are more reputable realtors , and it has to do with
the fact that mostly non-natives are buying the land, scamming them would be economic suicide, still, be very careful who you do business with.
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djh
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Hello? Did anyone have an actual recommendation (besides sending all attys. to da moon...?) 
Its all just stuff and some numbers.
A day spent sailing isn\'t deducted from one\'s life.
Peace, Love, and Music
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Skeet/Loreto
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I would suggest Alex at Baja Realty. He will set you up with Miguel izquerido in La Paz. both are very trustworthy/Honest and fair in Priceing.
Skeet/Loreto
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Bruce R Leech
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Miguel izquerido in La Paz. you get what you pay for.
Bruce R Leech
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Bruce R Leech
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Miguel izquerido in La Paz. you get what you pay for.
Bruce R Leech
Ensenada
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vandenberg
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David
Give Alex Ogilvie at realtybaja@prodigy.net.mx a buzz and I'm sure that he'll be able to guide you in the right direction.
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longlegsinlapaz
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DJH
In my personal experience & opinion, unless there's a KNOWN problem going into the deal, using a lawyer to purchase property in Mexico simply adds
another level of confusion & makes mucho dinero for the lawyer! I've purchased 2 properties in the past 6 years...just using a notario....Notario
#7, Castro/Castro in La Paz...without any major problems.
And an update for those who haven't dealt with Miguel Izequrido lately, he recently switched professions...he's no longer a lawyer...he's now a
Notatio! So DJH, if you choose to use Miguel, you'd get the benefit of his legal knowledge while just paying the notario fees! 
Edit typo
[Edited on 7-19-2010 by longlegsinlapaz]
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Capt. George
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DAVID
MY NOTARIO IN SR IS ALL YOU NEED...YOU'RE CREATING ANOTHER LAYER OF HAVOC FOR YOURSELF....ALSO SR IS A LOT CLOSER TO LORETO.
I WOULD NOT GO BACK TO LA PAZ FOR A NOTARIO EVER AGAIN! e ME AND i WILL EXPLAIN.
GEORGE
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Capt. George
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notario allll youuu neeeeed
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Skeet/Loreto
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There is one very inportant thng to remember about when dealing in Legal Matters in Baja.
Always go to the Capital City to do business, that is where the Power Lies.
Alex in Loreto, Miguel in La Paz have always been very good to deal with. I dealt in Real Estate in Loreto for nearly 12 years. i would use them
anytime in the future. Skeet/Loreto
Please u2u me if you have private Questions.
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Marinero
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Wow! This is not a lawyer-friendly discussion. I do agree that in Mexico using an attorney for routine land matters generally is not necessary and
the combined experience of a good local real estate agent and a Notorio Publico will yield good results mostly. I would remind everyone that American
title insurance is available in baja, at least in some areas, and should be obtained if available. As far as changing existing titles, between family
members, usually title insurance is not necessary. Still the Notorio is your best bet. Seek one of good reputaion.
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