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Ken Cooke
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Corrupt Police in Tijuana
I was stopped near the border in pristine Tijuana, Mexico for CUTTING OFF ANOTHER CAR. A concerned motorcycle police officer cited me after reviewing
my DL and Auto Registration.
I told the police officer that I knew I could mail the ticket back to Mexico with the fine ($30) and surprise! He told me I could not do this!
So, I gave him the $30 knowing full well that this money was going to line his pockets. Suzanne saw me cut off the car that nearly hit my Jeep, but
the car was accellerating so fast that it was his fault for driving so recklessly. Regardless, I got home w/o any further incident, and am crying
over spilled milk. Any suggestions for ways of dealing with corrupt cops in the future?
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BAJACAT
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police in tj
What I do Ken is .,"You ither give me the ticket or take me to the police station" wich they don't want because that way they can get any money for
themselves and they don't want to waste time taking you to the station so I get a ticket to mail or to go to the station next time and pay it myself.
I hope that little incident doesn't leave you with a bad memory of mexico, they stop me to and Im mexican they are afther the money thats all...
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Ken Cooke
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I was pressed for time as it was Sunday evening and we had some friends in a Jeep following behind us. I had to get up for work the next day at 5
a.m., and there was absolutely no way I could go to the Police Station with spending 1 extra day in Mexico (wife's idea) over the Turkey week
vacation.
Trust me, I have plenty of great memories of Tijuana, and with my Nortec Collective Vol.3 CD playing on the stereo, I still made the best of it, and
realized what the experience is like for the Mexican people who have to deal with their own police force day in and day out.
Nortec Collective - Tijuana Sessions Vol. 3
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Bedman
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Look at it this way Ken. You now have a TJ cop story to tell. You'll be able to embellish it with subtle nuances to add a little "Excitement" to the
tale. Like, "He had this really BIG gun." You'll get way more than $30 bucks out of the potential possibilities.
Bedman
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bedman
Look at it this way Ken. You now have a TJ cop story to tell. You'll be able to embellish it with subtle nuances to add a little "Excitement" to the
tale. Like, "He had this really BIG gun." You'll get way more than $30 bucks out of the potential possibilities.
Bedman |
I can say the cop is the same guy on the album cover and that he is a musican on the side. 
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Bruce R Leech
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Corrupt Police in Tijuana how can that be?
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fdt
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
I told the police officer that I knew I could mail the ticket back to Mexico with the fine ($30) and surprise! He told me I could not do this!
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Sorry to hear about your encounter with that cop, but Yes, you can pay the ticket in the US
http://www.tijuana.gob.mx/turismo/TouristGuide/English/pag6....
read the bottom part. As a recomendation why dont all you guys carry a copy of this with you. Yes there are p-nche policias corruptos in Tijuana, but
not all of them, same as anywere else. Don't give in because that is the root of the p-inche problema. Once again sorry, and I will post later the
toll free number were you can place a formal complaint. I hope you took his name or number, if not, he did make an easy $30.
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David K
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Gracias Ferna!
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jrbaja
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Chances are very good
that we will be seeing more of this in the next few weeks before Christmas. It's against the law for them to accept your money unless it's at the
station.
When you give them your license and they want you to follow them there, 9 times out of 10 they will get another call and give your license back.
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JESSE
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
I was stopped near the border in pristine Tijuana, Mexico for CUTTING OFF ANOTHER CAR. A concerned motorcycle police officer cited me after reviewing
my DL and Auto Registration.
I told the police officer that I knew I could mail the ticket back to Mexico with the fine ($30) and surprise! He told me I could not do this!
So, I gave him the $30 knowing full well that this money was going to line his pockets. Suzanne saw me cut off the car that nearly hit my Jeep, but
the car was accellerating so fast that it was his fault for driving so recklessly. Regardless, I got home w/o any further incident, and am crying
over spilled milk. Any suggestions for ways of dealing with corrupt cops in the future? |
1.-Don't bribe them
2.-Tell them you have sindicaturas phone number and yes you can pay by mail.
3.- If he refuses, tell him you want to go to the police station so you can call sindicatura.
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ArvadaGeorge
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The link is on Tijuana .Does this pay by mail apply to the rest of Baja ?
Mexacalli ? San Felipe ?
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MrBillM
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I'm Shocked !
Shocked to find out that Bribery and Corruption is going on in a place like Tijuana. Things just aren't the way they used to be
(and never were).
Seriously, forget all of the advice and do whatever you think works best. Just ignore all of this Sanctimonious advice from people on the PROPER way
to handle this and do whatever is comfortable to you. Pay the Mordida or not, go to the police station or not. Whatever is reasonable and the most
expedient. Nobody cares, including God.
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Hook
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
Shocked to find out that Bribery and Corruption is going on in a place like Tijuana. Things just aren't the way they used to be
(and never were).
Seriously, forget all of the advice and do whatever you think works best. Just ignore all of this Sanctimonious advice from people on the PROPER way
to handle this and do whatever is comfortable to you. Pay the Mordida or not, go to the police station or not. Whatever is reasonable and the most
expedient. Nobody cares, including God. |
So your advice, Mr. Rains, is to ignore advice of those who have been there before? 
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Cincodemayo
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Mr Bill is a Silly putty character.
Don\'t get mad...
Get EVEN.
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JZ
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bedman
Look at it this way Ken. You now have a TJ cop story to tell. You'll be able to embellish it with subtle nuances to add a little "Excitement" to the
tale. Like, "He had this really BIG gun." You'll get way more than $30 bucks out of the potential possibilities.
Bedman |
That's funny and true. About three months ago we had a cop shake us down pretty hard in TJ. He had us up against the wall with our hands and legs
out. The whole nine yards. I was pretty nervous. I had a finger nail file in my pocket I just bought to cut a lime. I was paranoid he was going to
say it was a weapon!
It was Sunday afternoon and we were drinking a beer on the stoop of a little market. Just sitting there. It was a pretty stupid thing to do, but I'm
so use to being in the small towns where they don't care.
Of course the embellished version will be that he had his gun drawn, and didn't find the 10" knife I had swapped to my ankle!
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eetdrt88
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i completely agree with Mr.Bill...
use common sense in these situations and do whatever is necessary...anybody who thinks they are going to change the world by playing good cop/bad cop
is a little naive...these type of things have been going on forever and most likely they always will
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by eetdrt88
use common sense in these situations and do whatever is necessary... |
Personally, I belive the system should change to the Mordida in this country. Here's why:
* Gun drawn in my face w/cop threatening to pull trigger.
* Cop asking my wife if I was a suspect who robbed her.
* Cop asking me, "Are you having a bad day?" as he gets in my face wanting me to go hand-to-hand w/him.
If the 3 above police had just asked me for $30 each, I would have been much happier. But, that is how it goes for minorities in the US of A.
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Ken Cooke
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| Quote: | Originally posted by lenchoMinority? Hmmm, if you're in Riverside, that must make you an Anglo. ;>
--Larry |
Me and my old pickup truck I sold 2 yrs. ago...
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MrBillM
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That reminds Me........................
About ten years back, I walked into Pepito's Fish Market in San Felipe and standing there at the counter was a very close friend of mine (Black) from
the U.S. There were a number of Mexicans standing around. When I walked in, I said "Damn, it's getting so they'll let just anybody come into town".
Things got really tense. The Mexicans expecting all Heck to break loose, until Charlie (my friend) laughed and grabbed me.
There was a time when Distrust and Discrimination towards Blacks was very prevalent in Mexico and I'm sure it's still to be found, but thankfully
things have improved.
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BajaNomad
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Ken Cooke
I was pressed for time... |
To me, that's key here... that you ended up paying out to save time.
As grover noted, patiently outwaiting them is a successful tactic. So, it becomes an issue of who has more time to kill, you - or the officer(s).
And that may be the way to view it when it happens - and help with the decision on how you want to handle it, since all of us have different thoughts
and priorities about it.
btw... Jesse's notes are to the point, and may save you some time - only if you can remember what was suggested.
--
Doug
[Edited on 12-2-2005 by BajaNomad]
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