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gonetobaja
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Pavement to Puertecitos
Just got back today. There are several survey crews working on the road and the news is that the pavement will reach puertecitos in a few months. It
will bypass puertecitos inland and then go to gonzaga from there.
You heard it here first.....
Now it will be smooth road, I think Im sad....
GTB
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Mexray
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It's a good news/bad news kinda thing...
I know those affected in that area have a love/hate relationship with a good, paved road...but lets face facts, a quick look at a Baja map will
certainly show how bad a good paved road between San Felipe - Puertecitos - Gonzaga - Chapala/Hwy 1 is needed to improve 'tourist flows' throughout
Baja & Baja Sur. This new, improved route would be a 'boon' for those travelers coming from the Central U.S., saving many road miles, not having
to drive clear over to Ensenada, before heading south.
And lets be honest, I'll bet there won't be many Casa Owners below San Felipe, along the coast, that won't welcome a nice paved strip to cut down on
their transit times and the wear and tear on the equipment!
Another glance at a Baja map, might also reveal the need for a good paved road between San Ignacio (approximate) - La Purisima - Ciudad Insurgentes.
This new route would divert the majority of the commercial traffic bound for La Paz & Cabo and remove the heavy vehicle 'pressure' along the Gulf
between Santa Rosalia and Loreto.
I realize new paved roads mean more vehicles, tourists, etc. But if the Mexican Govt. wants to realize more tourist $'s, it's almost inevitable that
they would do this sort of thing at some point in time...what ya' goin' to do? They're paving paradise, and making it a parking lot...ough, wap, wap
wap...sings Joni Mitchell...
[Edited on 2-20-2006 by Mexray]
According to my clock...anytime is \'BAJA TIME\' & as Jimmy Buffett says,
\"It doesn\'t use numbers or moving hands It always just says now...\"
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wornout
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Mexray: I know what you mean about the Love/Hate relationship of the growth. I live in San Felipe and we are experiencing rapid growth now. The new
road means we can get from here to GN, to watch the whales, in half a day and with all the nuts and bolts still on the truck.
This Space Available, E-Mail Me If Interested.
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mcgyver
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MexRay, You are right of course but for the present it is sort of a badge of honor! " I drove to Punta Bufeo when the pot holes were XXXXXXX" type of
thing. As a 6 to 7 months a year resident of the area I am torn between being happy to have good pavement to my Campo at KM 54 S and all the increases
in traffic that will come with all good road. Not to say that the curves and drop offs in the Cuestas S of Puertecitos will not continue to claim
victims as will the vados S of Rancho Grande, indeed they may claim more after paving! With paving on Highway 5 completed all the way through to
Highway 1 S of Guerrero Negro through San Francisquito/El Arco, I could leave my house and be at Las Animas by noon! Of course when I got there it
would be to take a number and sit at a gate like it is now in the US at a lot of places.
The paving equipment is still sitting in wait at KM 51 S.
There is no doubt that this will happen , there are 3 houses in my sight being built on the beach right now where there has been all most no new
construction for 10 years, there are 7 new roads to the beach from the highway, I counted them today. There are 5 houses in this Campo that have been
empty and for sale for over 3 or more years with little interest, all have had lookers this past 6 weeks, one is sold------Going-----Going -----gone!!
The old Baja!!
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surfer jim
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I will not miss the washboard road at all.....
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BAJACAT
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Puertecitos road
Remember progress comes with a price. on this instance it will bring all kinds of people..
BAJA IS WHAT YOU WANTED TO BE, FUN,DANGEROUS,INCREDIBLE, REMOTE, EXOTIC..JUST GO AND HAVE FUN.....
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mcgyver
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Latest on the road!
A contractor from Ensenada moved into Puertecitos and built a barracks style housing for the road workers. According to the locals he did not get paid
so everyone went back to Esenada. I drove out to the paving machinery stowage area this afternoon, the watchman tells the same story as always
""Manana" or "Posibily Pasado manana".
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BajaDave
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| Quote: | | And lets be honest, I'll bet there won't be many Casa Owners below San Felipe, along the coast, that won't welcome a nice paved strip to cut down on
their transit times and the wear and tear on the equipment! |
You can put me down as one of those owners who'd prefer it remain unpaved. Occasionally graded, yes. Paved, no. But as you suggest, it's not all
bad, as we'll benefit by decreased drive times and wear and tear. It's just that for me, that benefit is offset by the increased traffic and all that
it brings to this remote stretch of highway.
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bufeo
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As a resident well below Puertecitos, I would prefer the road to remain dirt, and I agree with BajaDave that occasionally graded would be nice.
I have spoken with many of the Mexican business persons in our area and their responses to this proposed paving have been mixed.
We just returned from a month in South Africa and Namibia where we traveled over 3000km in a Toyota LC over dirt roads. In Namibia the roads were
graded on a regular basis and that country is no where near as wealthy as Mexico. Mind you, there were hundreds of 'wash aways' (Namibian equivalent
of vados) and 'rough' spots, but we saw road-grading crews (two men with a grader and trailer) on many of the back tracks.
We forded streams, literally crawled (4WD low range) up some grades, and still we saw evidence of recent grading. I'm convinced that the government
of BCN could put in an all-weather dirt road south from Puertecitos to Chapala that would be superior to the existing road, require less money to
build than pavement, and in the long run be easier to maintain since dirt requires less man and machinery than pavement....but...
most likely I won't be consulted. 
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Desertbull
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I'm envisioning this...
Bufeo's Cafe - Featuring Starbucks coffee and Baskin-Robbins ice cream. Situated convienently on the highway to Gonzaga at The Baja Mall in Punta
Bufeo, Baja California.
Air-conditioning and parking for large motorhomes...Snow Birds & Canadians welcomed!
(i could go on..but i'm laughing to hard / dang, the days of no more rough road heading south...i'll believe it when i see it. I just returned from
yet another trip and the road was in horrible condition, huge wash board that will shake your teeth out, massive wash outs in the vados, 5 foot drop
offs, wind and dust storms with low visibility, bands of roaming bandidos looting everything in site...anyone thinking about heading south of
Puertocitos should think twice! ROTFLMAO
DREAM IT! PLAN IT! LIVE IT!
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Neal Johns
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Thanks, Desertbull,
Sounds scary, I think I will stay home and watch TV. 
My motto:
Never let a Dragon pass by without pulling its tail!
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Mexray
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I think my new Baja 'Ride' is going to be...
...a customized Caterpillar Road Grader with a large self-contained camper mounted on back! I'll be able to explore Baja's interior at will. I can
visualize other intrepid Baja travelers following behind our new 'rig' like Arctic vessels behind an icebreaker as it plows through an ice field...
According to my clock...anytime is \'BAJA TIME\' & as Jimmy Buffett says,
\"It doesn\'t use numbers or moving hands It always just says now...\"
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Ruben
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The Pavement, where does it end?
Hey all,
Driving from San Diego to Calexico, crossing at Mexicali and heading down the 5 to San Felipe. Then hoping to drive on Saturday down to Coco's
corner. We'll be taking my 2WD Toyota 4Runner. Any idea how long of a drive it is down to where we are going? Where does the pavment end? Am I in
for a rude awakening as far as road conditions?
Thanks,
Ruben Leon
| Quote: | Originally posted by gonetobaja
Just got back today. There are several survey crews working on the road and the news is that the pavement will reach puertecitos in a few months. It
will bypass puertecitos inland and then go to gonzaga from there.
You heard it here first.....
Now it will be smooth road, I think Im sad....
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beercan
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The pavement ends 12 miles North of Puertecitos !!
After that --brace yourself and slow down !!
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bbbait
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And that's a good spot to let your air down!
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Packoderm
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Do you think that once the road is done and smooth they will start fencing off the federal areas?
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Taco de Baja
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What is the latest
condition of the pavement?
Have they reached Puertocitos yet?
What is the dirt road like south of Puertocitos?
Thanks
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bancoduo
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yes
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David K
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In my latest report (see Baja Trip Reports Forum), last Sunday the new pavement ended not far past El Coloradito... maybe 15 miles from Puertecitos...
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beercan
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Pavement still ends 12 miles from Puertecitos--
However they have (again) started work on that 12 mile portion. I saw one large grader building detours around the larger culverts that have
collasped.
Latest rumor is that the road will be paved only to Puertecitos and no more ???
* libs, all about choice until you choose different
* B. Hussein Obama - an Empty Suit for Empty Minds.
* Annoy a liberal - Work hard and be happy!
* Arguing facts & truth to libs is like bringing a warm smile to a gun fight.
* Lets win the War on Terror
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