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Bob H
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What's your idea? huh?
OK, this ship has been stuck in Enesenada since what, December 26th? A friend of mine says they should dig a trench around the entire ship so that it
LOWERS into the water and floats out. What's your take on this, and/or what's your idea to get the darn thing un-stuck?
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Dave
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Accelerate global warming or:
Wait for the next Tsunami.
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Bruce R Leech
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Dave
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If whoever was guarding it took an extra long lunch...
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Bruce R Leech
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Dave
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Hose A
Yep leave it unguarded for 24 hours and it will be so light it will float off the beach. |
What makes you think there would be a ship left to float? 
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Offer a life time supply of beer to any one that will get it off the beach.
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what about the chinese hidden in the containers? they may be able to figure a way for a lifetime supply of Tsing-Tao!!!  
[Edited on 2-2-2006 by woody in ob]
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Sharksbaja
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Inertia should do it
Take three lashed together container ships and hook em up with huge ropes then play out a miles worth.
Put the pedal to the metal! When they hit the end of the rope.....something will give!
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BajaDanD
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If they leave it unguarded it will be stripped then turned upside down and stripped some more. That's what happens to any vehicle left unattended in
baja there will be a lot of new houses between TJ and Ensenada, long rectangular houses and one realy big fan or does that ship have more then one
prop.
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Santiago
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I know ziltch re salvage law but maybe this would work:
1. Eventually the insurance companies will pay the consinees for their lost goods and then have title to them.
2. Ditto for the containers.
The City of Ensedada buys the whole thing from the insurance company at pennies on the peso. Said City goes to eBay, negotiates favorable rates and
opens up a store-front online. Starts a drop-shipment operation. All the profit would go toward stopping all gillnetting operations, everywhere, for
all time.
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bajalera
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When we passed by a couple of weeks ago, a helo was transporting a container to land somewhere [couldn't see where it was set down].
Why not get a squadron or three of helos and lift the whole ship over to Mexicali, where it could be converted to a funky hotel that would serve as a
tourist destination for a place that's in need of one?
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DanO
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Ignore it. It'll go away.
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Santiago
I know ziltch re salvage law but maybe this would work:
1. Eventually the insurance companies will pay the consinees for their lost goods and then have title to them.
2. Ditto for the containers.
The City of Ensedada buys the whole thing from the insurance company at pennies on the peso. Said City goes to eBay, negotiates favorable rates and
opens up a store-front online. Starts a drop-shipment operation. All the profit would go toward stopping all gillnetting operations, everywhere, for
all time. |
The ship ownwes declared "General Average" which means the owners of the cargo pay for the salvage operation as well as damage to the ship. If the
cargo owners had "GA" insurance, the their insurance co pays, if not the ship owner and salvage compay comes after the cargo owners.
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Don Alley
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Call in the Floating Nuetrinos to tow it to Isla Angel de la Guarda.
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thebajarunner
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There is a great story about a big rig getting stuck under an overpass, right next to the fence of the local mental institution.
A crew is working to extract it, scratching heads, etc.
One of the inmates leans on the fence and yells, "Hey, let the air down in the tires and drive it out"
They do and it does.
One of the crew looks at the inmate and sez, "Gee, howcome you can come up with solutions like that, yet you are locked up in this place."
and the inmate sez, "Well, I may be crazy, but I'm not stupid!"
soooooooooo,
seems to me like they float a couple barges alongside and just start taking off containers until that baby starts to float again...
duhhhhhhh.......
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Bob H
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bob H
A friend of mine says they should dig a trench around the entire ship so that it LOWERS into the water and floats out. What's your take on this?
Bob H |
Does anyone think this would actually work? My friends idea above...
Bob H
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BajaDanD
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http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=14879&pag...
Its sitting on the beach, even empty it cant float on sand
Empty will only make it easer to drag it off the beach. I bet it will still take all those tugs and the barges that are there now and maybe some more.
If they dig around it it will fall over on its side then they are screwed. they have to turn it so that it's pointed as close to straight out to sea
as possable then dig a channel in front of it for it to slide into. And they havent turned it vary much at this point, and, the highest tides of the
year have already passed, last weekend. I dont think pulling a barge along side of it with a crane on it, is a good idea. might end up stuck there
too.
[Edited on 2-3-2006 by BajaDanD]
[Edited on 2-3-2006 by BajaDanD]
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Mexray
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Bajarunner...
...I saw such a 'big rig' that was stuck in an 'underpass'...it was in San Francisco, where I was working for the Kenworth Truck dealer in the late
60's.
Sheedy Drayage (no pun intended) was hauling a large transformer on a lowbed trailer from the rail yard to a new power co switching station.
They had tied a long bamboo pole to the front of the radiator/hood - so the driver could tell the height of the load on the trailer...well, someone
screwed up with the pole, or it slipped down, because he stuck the whole thing inside an over crossing along their route.
There was much head scratching for several hours, till some passerby made the 'reduce the tire pressure' suggestion, and they were on their way again!
It made a big splash in the SF Chronicle the next day, but I don't remember who the 'bright one' was...
I'm sure this kind of thing has happened several places across the country before and will again...
According to my clock...anytime is \'BAJA TIME\' & as Jimmy Buffett says,
\"It doesn\'t use numbers or moving hands It always just says now...\"
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bajarich
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Give Haliburton a no-bid-cost-plus contract to haul it out. I'm sure that would get the job done, of course it will cost 10 times more than the whole
thing is worth by the time it finally happens 10 years from now.
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bajabound2005
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Get 10,000 labrador retrievers and put harnesses on them. Attach cables to the boat and the labs. Throw one tennis ball out into the water...
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