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tehag
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Kinda Narrow
Caravan on a narrow stretch. Plenty of room.
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Bruce R Leech
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glad I'm not behind them
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Paula
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.... and I'm glad I'm not approaching them from the other direction!! 
It's a long way down if they push you off the edge!
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Diver
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In our entire trip dwon and back we only had one trucker test our trailer's width. Unfortunately, the number of RV/campers that made me move way over
was too high to count.
On a few occasions I tested my 6 liter diesel's muster and passed 'em like cattle. I was very happy that my F350 weighs more than my 24' trailer on
one occasion when I dropped the right-side wheels off the road; actually, there was no road in that particular location of the road. What I felt in
the truck was like hitting a few small potholes; the trailer flew along back onto the road behind us - no problem !
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vgabndo
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Got into a situation like that a few years ago with the cab-over on the F-250
I've never been a CB kind of guy, but I was sure glad to have one. The caravan leader, and the rest of them, hooked up with me on the radio, and we
passed dozens of motorhomes on blind corners, on hill tops, it was an E-ticket ride. Without the radio it would have been suicide. If we hadn't
beaten them all to El Rosario the old Pemex tanks would have been empty by the time they had all filled up.
Haven't really used that radio since!
Undoubtedly, there are people who cannot afford to give the anchor of sanity even the slightest tug. Sam Harris
"The situation is far too dire for pessimism."
Bill Kauth
Carl Sagan said, "We are a way for the cosmos to know itself."
PEACE, LOVE AND FISH TACOS
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Don Alley
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OK, Pompano, on a recent trip from Loreto to La Paz and back we saw three caravans.
I had no problems with them. Because every one was going the other direction.
I just don't want to get stuck behind them. I don't have a CB.
I could care less about any grand social connotations. They probably have a lot of fun traveling and camping with their fellow caravaners. I have no
"size" envy; I miss my little VW GTI Turbo, the best ride I ever took down Highway 1. Drove like a dream. Ya see it's not the size, it's how you drive
it.
But caravaners,
JUST STAY OUT OF MY WAY!
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oladulce
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tehag,
I think I know where this section of road is but
how in the heck did you get up there to take this photo?
I figured your shot of Puerto Escondido ("Where"?) was from a plane, but now I'm thinking there's some cabra in you.
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turtleandtoad
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RV'ers join caravans because;
1) They are afraid of their RV's and need the peer presssure to get behind the wheel every morning!
2) They don't know how to drive, so feel safer behind some other RV'er that also doesn't know how to drive!
3) They don't want to socialize with the locals, just view the scenery through their windshields and get sloshed with like-minded gringos in a walled
RV park every night.
4) They are afraid of Bandido's and actually think the 'tailgunner' really has guns! (hopefully a set of quad 50's on a pop-up mount)
OK, break out the flamethrowers.
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Pompano
'Caravans on the Baja Road' ... Psychology 101
Chapter One: "Theory questions on Baja Road Rages"
I wonder why the bias against fellow travelers traveling in groups?
Is it the 'herd instinct' that we find objectionable?
The fact that one has to wait to safely pass each vehicle?
The assumption that they are like locusts eating up the products ahead..before we can get to them?
Anyone using a CB sounds too comical and rednecky? (used them on 3 continents without a single lynching so far)
Some 'size' envy perhaps?.. ....ahem
Our superior knowledge of where to have fun in Baja..meaning those off-road places that these Goliaths probably will never get to...and we certainly
never want to see there?
Your opinions and/or experiences are solicited. (Duck, Felipa!)
[Edited on 2-25-2006 by Pompano] |
some of them are very old and don't have any business driving a car yet alone a 40 foot overloaded RV puling a car behind. they make you get a special
licence for a motorcycle but any 80 year old man that has never driven anything larger than a cadillac is allowed to get in one of those RVs and go
for it.
most of them are good drivers and are not a problem.
Bruce R Leech
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Paulina
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| Quote: | Originally posted by turtleandtoad
RV'ers join caravans because;
1) They are afraid of their RV's and need the peer presssure to get behind the wheel every morning!
2) They don't know how to drive, so feel safer behind some other RV'er that also doesn't know how to drive!
3) They don't want to socialize with the locals, just view the scenery through their windshields and get sloshed with like-minded gringos in a walled
RV park every night.
4) They are afraid of Bandido's and actually think the 'tailgunner' really has guns! (hopefully a set of quad 50's on a pop-up mount)
OK, break out the flamethrowers. |
Ok, I'm wearing my asbestos thong undies and advancing without fear...
1. unlikely, but you're allowed your opinion.
2.ditto number one.
3.I know COUNTLESS so called locals who fall into the gringo catagory who do just as you claim, even though they don't happen to arrive to their final
destination in an RV following a caravan.
4. silly
5. This one is my number. Give the RV caravaner's a break. We all started out in Baja at one time or another. If it takes 'safety in numbers' for one
to take the first step, so be it. Everyone has a right to enjoy baja how they see fit. Just because one drives an RV and joins a caravan with a smile
on their face and a sense of adventure in their hearts, it doesn't make them any older, more delicate, scared, unable to take sharp corners with a cow
coming in at them point blank any worse off then the rest of us.
I would give anything right now to be trapped behind this group of caravaners. At least I'd be in baja and not here, behind my computer screen
standing up for same.
To each his own.
P.<*)))><
\"Well behaved women rarely make history.\" Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
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rts551
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Paulina
I think the point is that there are some people on hwy 1 that are afraid of the road. They therefore need comefort in numbers... and a lot of
room.... behind them is not as bad as when you are coming at them and they think they need their lane and part of yours. We have all seen them...
They take comfort in knowing that there are others in the same boat... or RV so to speak
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Paulina
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| Quote: | Originally posted by rts551
Paulina
I think the point is that there are some people on hwy 1 that are afraid of the road. They therefore need comefort in numbers... and a lot of
room.... behind them is not as bad as when you are coming at them and they think they need their lane and part of yours. We have all seen them...
They take comfort in knowing that there are others in the same boat... or RV so to speak |
Rts, Ok, I don't have anything else to do for the next half hour, so I'm game. Why do you think that just because one joins an rv caravan they are
"afraid of the road" ?
Do you think that the only reason they choose to join a caravan is for comfort in numbers? More room on the driver's side to run others coming at them
off the road? If they have buddies behind them doing the same, then what the heck?
I've seen many drivers coming at me on my side of the road and not necessarily in an rv as part of a caravan.
They didn't need the security of their fellow traveler behind them to give them the you know whatties to run me to the non existant shoulder. They
only showed the inexperience or the lapse of the attention that is required to drive the narrow highway. Locals do it, rental cars, big rigs. Gringos
and locals alike pulling trailers, boats, trucks beds loaded with cows, etc.
Some people in RVs do take their piece out of the road, but who of us can honestly claim that we haven't done the same at one time or another?
It seems unfair to pin the blame on rv drivers and their caravans. Put the blame where it lies. With those who deserve it.
P<*)))><
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turtleandtoad
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Give me a break, the whole thing was meant to be silly.
Doesn't anyone remember Monty Python? Poke fun at everything, you'll live longer.
If you didn't notice my sig, I'm an RV'er, probably more so than most as it is my lifestyle. I join caravans (mostly Escapee's) in the US when the
mood strikes, but haven't bothered in Mexico, yet.
Maybe I ought to go back to writing tech studies.
To caravan or not to caravan, that is the question.
And the answer should be; Who gives a damn, whatever gets you around is fine by me.
Mike & Robin; Full-Time RV\'ers
37\' Georgetown w/3 slides & 275 Watts of Solar Power
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Paulina
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Thank you T&T. I know what your sig represents and such my surprise and reply to your post. I think I used the word silly myself.
I can just see that Monty Python caravan now, clippity clop, clippy clop with coconut shells and shrubbery along with the fanged attack rabbits
popping out instead of cows.
As you said, who gives a damn, as long as it gets people around...
\"Well behaved women rarely make history.\" Laurel Thatcher Ulrich
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rts551
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Point taken... but my experience has been that most caravans take more of the road than those people traveling alone. Trailers and boats taking too
much of the road or someone going way to fast for the road conditions have been much more of a problem for me than "locals or big rigs". But maybe
thats just my luck.
Sorry you don't have anyhting else to do.. LOL
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Paulina
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| Quote: | .
Sorry you don't have anyhting else to do.. LOL |
Me too, at least for the next 5 minutos. But one has to have down time... Ja ja Ja
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[Edited on 26-2-2006 by Paulina]
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tehag
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Narrow
Picture was taken from a rocky hill south of Ligu?. Didn't mean to stir anything up, just thought it was an interesting shot.
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Bedman
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My Hackles always jump up.....
when I hear "Motorhome" in conjunction with "Old", "Bad Drivers", "Road Hogs", "Fat", "Hen Pecked", "Rich", "Lucky", "Good Looking", "Cradle Robber",
etc.
Only because I fall into some of those categories. You get to pick any of the descriptors EXCEPT "Bad Drivers", "Road Hogs", "Fat" & "Hen
Pecked".
I've seen some pretty bad drivers on Hwy #1. The worst were in cars. Most were Young and Stupid.
You can tell if it's me in front of you. You'll see my picture on the back.
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Barry A.
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THOSE POKEY CARAVANS------------
I agree with everything POMPANO says except one------the caravaners tend to stay to close together, making if very difficult for us in our small rigs,
which are travelling somewhat faster, to pass them. It often takes litterally 30 min. for our 2 or 3 pickup mini-caravan to get by them. And I have
NEVER been able to contact the "caravaners" on my CB----probably because I have no idea what channel they monitor.
So, like others have suggested, we send out the boldest of our group to make the first pass, and he can CB the rest of us around, but even this takes
a very long time, and the "pucker factor" is extreme, since the "bold one" has to remain somewhat safe. If they would just keep more distance
between their rigs, then it would be a lot simpler.
I have never had any problems with caravans when they are going the opposite direction that I am, except to symphathise with the poor blokes stacked
up behind them.
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turtleandtoad
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I think that is because most caravan RV'ers are new to Baja, and just can't get used to the fact that there is only one highway and that they can back
off as far as they want and they aren't going to lose the caravan unless they leave the paved highway. Even though the wagonmasters keep telling them
to spread out! (I listen in  )
Try Ch 13 for most RV'er. Or if that doesn't work, then they are probably on the truckers channel, 19.
I monitor both.
Mike & Robin; Full-Time RV\'ers
37\' Georgetown w/3 slides & 275 Watts of Solar Power
06 Taco TRD
www.turtleandtoad.com
I am here
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