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Malihiniman
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Pepper spray
Hi Nomads! I am traveling (driving) with 3 small children and the wife to Baja Sur. We will be in both populated and not so populated locations. I
thought I had the security issue settled with my bear pepper spray. I have since heard that it is being confiscated at the border. Any information on
the subject would be welcome.
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turtleandtoad
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In Baja Sur, the only thing you need is common sense!
Mike & Robin; Full-Time RV\'ers
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To paraphrase Frank Lloyd Wright; I\'m all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let\'s start with keyboards. --
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Bruce R Leech
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my wife Edith caries one of those giant ones they sell for bears when you are hunting. a couple of weeks ago she came home crying and in general
looking real bad. she did not know why but sed that on her way home from the bank in Santa Rosalia the something started smelling real bad and so she
rolled up the windows. a couple days later when I could get close enough to the car to check it out I found the pepper spray had gone off in her bag
in the car. we had to through away the bag but we were able to save the car and Edith.
Bruce R Leech
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Paula
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I carry pepper spray when I hike in Glacier Park in Montana because of the chance of meeting a grizzly bear on the trail. Is it the gekkos and
iguanas you fear down here?
I wouldn't travel to a place where I felt the need to be armed-- at least not for a vacation.
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Diver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paula
I wouldn't travel to a place where I felt the need to be armed-- at least not for a vacation. |
Very good words !
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Malihiniman
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Thank you all for your input. I will give your opinions on my and my families security appropriate consideration. My primary interest is in the
legality, technically and practically; of transporting capsican spray across the border and at any possible check points. Thank you in advance.
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bajajudy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Diver
| Quote: | Originally posted by Paula
I wouldn't travel to a place where I felt the need to be armed-- at least not for a vacation. |
Very good words ! |
AMEN!
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bajajudy
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Malihiniman
Thank you all for your input. I will give your opinions on my and my families security appropriate consideration. My primary interest is in the
legality, technically and practically; of transporting capsican spray across the border and at any possible check points. Thank you in advance.
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What we are all saying is that you DONT need it. Whether it is legal or not.
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Diver
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I've traveled Baja with kids since mine were born.
Never a problem; in fact, the kids make people more friendly and more likely to approach you.
You almost always get a pass at the checkpoints.
If any of the kids are blond or redhaired even better; they're a rarity in Baja.
Unless you are planning to bushwack into some back-country to camp alone, you will have no problems.
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paula
I carry pepper spray when I hike in Glacier Park in Montana because of the chance of meeting a grizzly bear on the trail. Is it the gekkos and
iguanas you fear down here?
I wouldn't travel to a place where I felt the need to be armed-- at least not for a vacation. |
it depends on how brave you are I guess. since we have be been robed twice while doing our banking I think you might want to be careful around the old
ATM.
Bruce R Leech
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turtleandtoad
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FYI, importing pepper spray into Mexico is illegal.
Mike & Robin; Full-Time RV\'ers
37\' Georgetown w/3 slides & 275 Watts of Solar Power
06 Taco TRD
www.turtleandtoad.com
I am here
To paraphrase Frank Lloyd Wright; I\'m all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let\'s start with keyboards. --
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Bruce R Leech
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I bought mine from a Mexican Policeman. they told Edith she should Cary it. with the proper permit which she has.
don't mess with her three people are in Jail now for trying,
Bruce R Leech
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woody with a view
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Unless you are planning to bushwack into some back-country to camp alone, you will have no problems.
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even then, you will be 1 in 3,000,000 if something bad happens. i feel the farther from the road you get, the cooler the people get....
BTW, machete is also great for chopping driftwood to burn.
FIVE HUNDRED POSTS!!!!!! wow, time flies.
[Edited on 2-26-2006 by woody in ob]
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by woody in ob
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Unless you are planning to bushwack into some back-country to camp alone, you will have no problems.
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even then, you will be 1 in 3,000,000 if something bad happens. i feel the farther from the road you get, the cooler the people get....
BTW, machete is also great for chopping driftwood to burn.
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right on Woody
Bruce R Leech
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Malihiniman
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Yes, remote 4x camping is definitely on the agenda I am self contained and very experienced; Just not outside 2nd amendment protection. I understand
the locals are very friendly. I am not worried about the locals.
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Diver
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FYI: Band operated spear guns and signal flare guns are both legal in Baja.
Signed, Anonymous
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Bruce R Leech
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the pepper spray is only a five hundred peso fine here if you are caught with out a permit. but I would not have a gun without a permit.
Bruce R Leech
Ensenada
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bajajudy
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An Apology
I am only thinking of BCS.
I am assuming that you will "scalded dog" it from the border to a nice campground. There is a good thread on Fred's board about where to camp the
first night in Baja.
If I thought I would have to spend a lot of time in TJ or Ensenada, I would be thinking safety too. Not necessarily pepper spray but being smart
about where you are.
We will be waiting for your trip report.
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Malihiniman
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Accepted Judy. I understand unfamiliar people discussing non-lethal force as an introduction might be uncomfortable. Still it is better to be prepared
and not need it; then otherwise.
Thanks Bruce, 500 Pesos doesn't sound so bad. Last time I was across the border a 12 gauge was standard issue. (Long time ago).
Thanks for the suggestions. I do not like the flair gun idea. What would you do if hit by a flair? Spear gun is slightly better... Machete requires
closeing with the opponent; never a good idea.
I guess Bruces response leads to my next question: Exchange Rate? Thank you all.
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Paula
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Bruce, it is a long held belief of mine that the best defense is no defense. I realize that this is laughable to most people, but it has served me
well over time. And I never go to ATM's in bad neighborhoods after dark.
Malihiniman, as that post about the bears moved me from newbie to junior nomad, my inner snotty teenager snuck out. I am old enough that I should not
allow this to happen. I hope you have a good trip, and follow Judy's good advice about Tijuana and Ensenada.
Happy trails to you!
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