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oladulce
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Caoba wood ?
We've been trying to get 2 large wooden garage doors built for a few months now and our guy said that all the pine he's found has been crappy so he's
decided to use Caoba. I can't find much info on this wood but I asked some Mexicano co-workers and their responses were "ooouuuu, muy bonita !"
Is the Caoba that's available in Mexico a type of Mahogany ? (holy cow !!) Even if it's not, it sounds like it's a beautiful wood and I probably won't
want to apply any stain.
Any suggestions on what to apply to protect the wood from the elements ? I can bring it down to Baja or order the stuff if necessary.
Gracias.
[Edited on 4-8-2006 by oladulce]
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I would suggest Penafin wood treatment, in clear. It is not a sealer like Thompsons, but penetrates. I have had good luck with it on decks and siding
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some times a little stain brings out the grain
or i should say i little tone not too far off the original colors will bring the grain alive the seal it with your best top coat have a good one
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oladulce
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I see what you mean Jerry. Since we have to bring everything down with us, and I don't know exactly what Caoba looks like, maybe I'll get a couple of
reddish and brownish stains to play with.
There's a "translucent" wood treatment product by Sikkens that's highly recommended by a custom carriage door company and I think I'll look in to that
for the protective coat.
Thanks for your experience with Penafin bajaguy, and I'll check that out too.
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the wood is mahagony not teak. it is much softer and needs a good polyurethane finish. Color clear with any tint make sure it is stabilized against
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Johannes. Mahogany or Teak! Would be very happy to have a few board feet of either.
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All of the Caoba iv'e seen here in La Paz is Plywood, very nice looking but soft and will need a finish.
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Cypress
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Caoba? Low grade mahogany?
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The dictionary says African Mahogany.
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Dictionary published in Madrid, maybe? Logical enough, but you'll find little, if any, wood from Africa in Mexico. It would be prohibitively
expensive if you did. A small amount of caoba is harvested in Quintana Roo, but most traditionally comes from Honduras (if they haven't clearcut it
all). Baja's proximity to seaports indicates Philipine mahogany, perhaps. Honduran is better, and more expensive, straighter grained etc.
Phillipine is ok for most applications but a bit more problematic for carving due to unpredictable grain patterns. Anyway you look at it, those are
gonna be some GUCCI garage doors! A slightly reddish stain would bring out the natural color best.
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This is a high end rain Forest lauan. Wood peddlers call it Mahogany, but it is not. Well mahogany is lauan, Caoba is lauan, as there are over 1000
species of lauan. I have some lauan that is as lite as balsa! Honduran mahogany (lauan) on the other end is the densest, a dealer will get upset if
you call it lauan
For a look at Caoba:
http://www2.fpl.fs.fed.us/TechSheets/Chudnoff/TropAmerican/h...
I forgot to say Caoba is a great wood for Baja, but not real durable. Paint it and save some headaches. If you go clear spray 3 coats of clear
exterior latex, you will get 5-7 years in the sun. The first bad spot you see refinish it then. Don't wait or you will really regret it.
[Edited on 9-30-2006 by Al G]
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Al G
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I would add although, no wood in Baja will be cheap this should be the least expensive of all US woods. It should be priced as a lauan, not mahogany.
It should not be an import, because it is a native tree to Mexico.
It also gives me hope for some real cabinet making in Baja.
I will have to find a way to over come all the splintering.
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Paint mahogany! Arrrgh, if you're going to paint it, why not just start with composition board? or metal? To me, that's blasphemy. Reminds me of
an incident when I was an apprentice cabinetmaker in Oregon. We made a complete set of custom cabinets in Red Birch plywood for a homeowner who
changed her (stupid b-tch) mind and decided she wanted them painted in white enamel. I came close to puking on the spot and almost refused but I
needed the job.
Why not just hire some local kid to put a coat of linseed oil on it every six months or year or so?
[Edited on 9-30-2006 by Oso]
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Thank you Al now I know it wasn't me with the splintering on one side cutting, because I have used a lot of it and even used a Rockwell with the
finest blade so said the person I borrowed it from.
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I've had good luck preserving outdoor wood that won't be used as a running / walking surface with a mixture of boiled linseed oil and beeswax. Matter
of fact I have some plywood that I boiled in a vat of the oil / wax mixture close to ten years ago , that's been sitting outside and except for
being a little dusty looks to be in about the same condition as the day I treated it. . You could improvise with a hot , painted on mixture and use a
heat gun to further its penetration. Can be slippery as heck when wet but I wouldn't want to be walking on any thing made of mahogany anyhow.
http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/10881233/Mahogany_Caoba_Wood_...
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Some more doors to check out
http://www.caobadoors.com/Hawaii/hawaii_garage_doors_page1.h...
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Oso
Paint mahogany! Arrrgh, if you're going to paint it, why not just start with composition board? or metal? To me, that's blasphemy. Reminds me of
an incident when I was an apprentice cabinetmaker in Oregon. We made a complete set of custom cabinets in Red Birch plywood for a homeowner who
changed her (stupid b-tch) mind and decided she wanted them painted in white enamel. I came close to puking on the spot and almost refused but I
needed the job.
Why not just hire some local kid to put a coat of linseed oil on it every six months or year or so?
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Oso...if that bother you, the rage in San Francisco will send you screaming.. A hell of alot of the Cabinets sold to be painted are Beautiful Cherry,
and clear white rock hard Maple. Caoba is not a big deal compared to them. Just for reference I prefer Natural finishes.
Albert G
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Al G
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Bajalero
I've had good luck preserving outdoor wood that won't be used as a running / walking surface with a mixture of boiled linseed oil and beeswax. Matter
of fact I have some plywood that I boiled in a vat of the oil / wax mixture close to ten years ago , that's been sitting outside and except for
being a little dusty looks to be in about the same condition as the day I treated it. . You could improvise with a hot , painted on mixture and use a
heat gun to further its penetration. Can be slippery as heck when wet but I wouldn't want to be walking on any thing made of mahogany anyhow.
http://www.alibaba.com/catalog/10881233/Mahogany_Caoba_Wood_... |
Bajalero...The finish you are describing is century's old, but still relevant and effective today.
[Edited on 9-30-2006 by Al G]
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oladulce
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Caoba wood doors
Since this post came back to life, here's a photo of the garage doors which were hung a couple of weeks go.
The doors are about 2" thick, beefier than heck, and muy hermosa.
I used a "wood treatment" product by Sikkens which is a stain and protectant and was recommended by a custom Carriage door company. It's supposed to
last about 5 years before needing a touch-up coat, but we'll see if that's true in the desert. The doors will only need a good cleaning or pressure
washing before I renew the Sikkens.
Hallelujah- the days of sanding and sanding before re-varnishing are over !
The doors, hinges, and other hardware were all made in Cd. Constitución.
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oladulce
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I agree Bajalero, that site's at the top of my favorites bookmarked for design ideas.
Well, ideas in my dreams mostly. Some of those doors would be very pricey and the landscaping, puro tropicál. But there's some unique gates and some
very cool rock work that could be applied in Baja.
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