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jack
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Baja Weather
Over the years all of my trips to the Baja have been between December and April. During the earlier years the weather was excellent, blue skies 95% of
the time, hot, and never more than a couple of raindrops. It seems to me during these last few years the weather has been getting worse. When I was in
Los Barrilles in 2003 the weather was overcast quite a bit and a little cold. In 2005 out at Todos Santos there was a lot of overcast weather and we
had several major rainstorms with cool weather. Is it just me or does it seem like the weather is getting worse. I didn't make it down this year but
I'm curious to know how the weather was during 2005-2006? 
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jerry
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i think weather patterns are changing all over the world??? globle warming??
jerry and judi
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Dianamo
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there were many clouds
I was in BCS three seperate times during the winter, I did notice a several days of overcast weather. It did rain at least one day that I know of.
Someone who lives there full-time could tell us if it is changing.
DianaMo
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Diver
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This was undoubtedly the coldest January and February we have ever experienced in Baja.
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Bruce R Leech
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Mood: A lot cooler than Mulege
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our weather is on a cycle with El nino just like you people to the north. so our weather will vary from year to year.
doesn't have anything to do with global warming which is also on a normal cycle that has little or nothing to due with our wasteful use of fossil
fuels and other chemicals.
how arrogant we humans are to think that we can control mother nature. by burning a little more or less wood on our camp fires
Bruce R Leech
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capt. mike
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just don't take Art Bell or George Noory too seriously............global warming............what a hoot!
listen to what that knumbskull Al Bore has to say about it, talk about a whack job! 
formerly Ordained in Rev. Ewing\'s Church by Mail - busted on tax fraud.......
Now joined L. Ron Hoover\'s church of Appliantology
\"Remember there is a big difference between kneeling down and bending over....\"
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bajajudy
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All I know is that it never got below 50 on my porch this winter and it has in the past 6 years every year.
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Pompano
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In 1973 it hailed 2-3 inches thick in the mountains and beaches of Coyote Bay.
In 1983 it snowed near Sta. Rosalia, leaving the Tres Virgenes snowcapped. The same winter it was below freezing for a week at Punta Chivato. Ice
formed every night in pans and buckets of fresh water.
There have been numerous frosts over the last 30-odd years in the Mulege valley...freezing many tomatoes, oranges, etc.
Cold has been commonplace, it seems...at least for the last half-century.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Paula
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The winters in Loreto seem chillier to me than in my first years down. November2001 was HOT in my memory, as were the winter months of2003-04. Fall
2004 into winter 2005there was a lot of rain, and many jeans and sweatshirt days. This past fall/winter has been very dry, exceptionally windy, and
quite cool Nov- early March. This is my very subjective opinion.
Bruce, I hope you are right, and that it is an el nino cycle. They say global warming makes it warmer up north, and cooler farther south, and many
credible scientists say it is a fact. We'll have to wait and see...
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bancoduo
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The record low for Acapulco is 28 degrees
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eetdrt88
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if the weather was the same..
day after day,year after year....seems like it might be kind of a boring world to live in,right now its the hottest its been all year here in So.Cal
but theyre predicting mucho rain and thunderstorms manana...we'll see
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jerry
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I HAVE MY DOUGHT EVEN IF IT IS GLOBLE WARMING WE WILL BE AROUND TO SEE IT
KAY SARA SARA
jerry and judi
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by jerry
I HAVE MY DOUGHT EVEN IF IT IS GLOBLE WARMING WE WILL BE AROUND TO SEE IT
KAY SARA SARA |
Ill second that Jerry
Bruce R Leech
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jack
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Weather
So it seems as if this year was a little cool and rainy, but not as bad as 2005 was. You say it's just a weather pattern, and here I was blaming it on
Golbal Warming.
Now who can I blame?
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Diver
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Paula
They say global warming makes it warmer up north, and cooler farther south, ... |
That doesn't fit this passed winter, it was a pretty cold winter up in the northwest, as well.
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vandenberg
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Hey Jerry
And what do Kay, Sara and Sara think of all this??
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Paula
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I'm feeling a little silly about my previous post. Five years of undocumented perrsonal opinion doesn't really say anything aboutt the weather trends
or reasons for them.But to embarrass myself further I will say that after 30+ winters in Montana, they have been milder for the past 10 or 15. This
also says nothing about weather patterns or reasons for them. I do tend to give some credence to the opinions of scientists who don't work for oil or
power companies on this issue, but haven't looked at the data they use, and if I did I wouldn't know how to interpret it. Interesting topic, and I
hope the scientists are wrong.
Mis felicidades to Kay, Sara and Sara, Jerry!
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jerry
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vandenburg
what ever will be will be the futures not ours to see( ta da)
jerry and judi
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Pompano
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Science Has Spoken: Global Warming is a Myth.
Mankind causing Greenhouse effect?...Global warming? Balderdash and poppyc-ck. Stuff for a Starbuck's coffee clutch of sophomores who can't find
girls to date.
The global-warming hypothesis is no longer tenable. Scientists have been able to test it carefully, and it does not hold up. During the past 50 years,
as atmospheric carbon dioxide levels have risen, scientists have made precise measurements of atmospheric temperature. These measurements have
definitively shown that major atmospheric greenhouse warming of the atmosphere is not occurring and is unlikely ever to occur.
The temperature of the atmosphere fluctuates over a wide range, the result of solar activity and other influences. During the past 3,000 years, there
have been five extended periods when it was distinctly warmer than today. One of the two coldest periods, known as the Little Ice Age, occurred 300
years ago. In New England, colonists called it the Summer That Never Came. Atmospheric temperatures have been rising from that low for the past 300
years, but remain below the 3,000-year average.
Why are temperatures rising? The gradual warming since the Little Ice Age and the large fluctuations during that warming have been caused by changes
in solar activity..our sun.The highest temperatures during this period occurred in about 1940. During the past 20 years, atmospheric temperatures have
actually tended to go down, based on very reliable satellite data, which have been confirmed by measurements from weather balloons.
Consider what this means for the global-warming hypothesis. This hypothesis predicts that global temperatures will rise significantly, indeed
catastrophically, if atmospheric carbon dioxide rises. Most of the increase in atmospheric carbon dioxide has occurred during the past 50 years, and
the increase has continued during the past 20 years. Yet there has been no significant increase in atmospheric temperature during those 50 years, and
during the 20 years with the highest carbon dioxide levels, temperatures have decreased.
In science, the ultimate test is the process of experiment. If a hypothesis fails the experimental test, it must be discarded. Therefore, the
scientific method requires that the global warming hypothesis be rejected.
Why, then, is there continuing scientific interest in "global warming"? There is a field of inquiry in which scientists are using computers to try to
predict the weather--even global weather over very long periods. But global weather is so complicated that current data and computer methods are
insufficient to make such predictions. Although it is reasonable to hope that these methods will eventually become useful, for now computer climate
models are very unreliable.
So we needn't worry about human use of hydrocarbons warming the Earth. We also needn't worry about environmental calamities, even if the current,
natural warming trend continues: After all the Earth has been much warmer during the past 3,000 years without ill effects.
But we should worry about the effects of the hydrocarbon rationing proposed at the Kyoto talks of 1997. A little known, or more importantly..
'acknowledged'.. fact is that hydrocarbon use has MAJOR environmental benefits. A great deal of research has shown that increases in atmospheric
carbon dioxide accelerate the growth rates of plants and also permit plants to grow in drier regions. Animal life, which depends upon plants, also
increases. ( Note: might we possibly see some benefit of this in Baja?...even for those damn golf courses?)
Standing timber in the United States has already increased by 30% since 1950? There are now 60 tons of timber for every American. Tree-ring studies
further confirm this spectacular increase in tree growth rates. It has also been found that mature Amazonian rain forests are increasing in biomass at
about two tons per acre per year. A composite of 279 research studies predicts that overall plant growth rates will ultimately double as carbon
dioxide increases.
Hydrocarbons have always caused a Lush Environment.
What mankind is doing is moving hydrocarbons from below ground and turning them into living things. We are living in an increasingly lush environment
of plants and animals as a result of the carbon dioxide increase. Our children will enjoy an Earth with twice as much plant and animal life as that
with which we now are blessed. This is a wonderful and unexpected gift from the industrial revolution.
Hydrocarbons are needed to feed and lift from poverty vast numbers of people across the globe. This can eventually allow all human beings to live
long, prosperous, healthy, productive lives. No other single technological factor is more important to the increase in the quality, length and
quantity of human life than the continued, expanded and unrationed use of the Earth's hydrocarbons, of which we have proven reserves to last more than
1,000 years. Global warming is a myth. The reality is that global poverty and death would be the result of Kyoto's rationing of hydrocarbons.
"Science Has Spoken: Global Warming Is a Myth"
by Arthur B. Robinson and Zachary W. Robinson
Arthur Robinson and Zachary Robinson are chemists at the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine.
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There you are, nomads, that's one side of the coin from scientists. Believe it...or not? What's your take on global warming? It's a Hot Issue! Me?
I tend to believe in scientific research...boring though it may be at times, it remains our gauge of the world and it's future.
I do what the voices in my tackle box tell me.
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Paula
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Good 'evvins, Pompano
...not only do you listen to the voices at the bottom of your tackle box, you listen to scientists from CAVE JUNCTION OREGON 
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