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Bajabus
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an observation
has anyone else noticed that this used to be a nice mellow board until the amigos board closed up shop and then all hell broke lose here?
"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked of such a thing."
Dwight David Eisenhower
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My observation is that the party moved here when Bajanet.com/Amigos de Baja died and a sleepy forum became alive and interesting. Like all good lively
parties, the neighbors (whose party was dull) got jealous and tried to crash the fun party to spoil it for everyone else! ......... In this example
the neighbors are Baja.net, who don't have a kind word to say about anyone who disagrees with their brand of 'fun' or right wing extremism.... just an
observation from a lurker... (jeff j)
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Mike Humfreville
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In my opinion baja.net has improved. They have mostly contained their criticism of several individuals into a sub-page. But it's our individual
choice. I do agree with Jeff, that it's mostly not the Amigos board joining in here, but it is the disturbances bouncing off baja.net that have
mucked things up. While I can understand some of the issues baja.net raises, I do not personally agree with the silly way it is brought out. There
is still a lot of good info there and a growing number of our friends. But I'm very sensitive to the fact that Bajabus raises about how this influx
from Amigos is bringing down Nomads. I think that lately there have been two specific posters here that are doing everything they can to ingratiate
themselves with baja.net folks and trying to look like heroes to them at the expense of readers here. Their efforts are fed by baja.nets hatred of
several individuals that have chosen to post here. Baja.net now frequently refers to the nomads collectively as "kooks." While I visit there
regularly, even tried to post last night, I finally backed off. It's too agressive for my personal taste. Who cares I guess. We all need a way to
express ourselves in the manner we choose.
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Bajabus
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you guys are right. I too have peeked over at baja.net.....way too aggressive. Seems like a bunch of junior high kids drunk on gasoline fumes and
booze. Very appropriate that most are in Las Vegas.
think I'll stay here and enjoy. You are right Mike "who cares" we do all need a way to express ourselves.
[Edited on 15-11-2003 by Bajabus]
"Preventive war was an invention of Hitler. Frankly I would not even listen to anyone seriously that came and talked of such a thing."
Dwight David Eisenhower
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bajalera
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Well thanks for mentioning baja.net, which I had missed. Now I know where to go when I feel like being nasty.
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Juan
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I too have noticed the nasty comments and generally inappropriate posts on baja.net. Seems some of these people cannot communicate without slamming
others.
Another thing that I noticed was the vast majority of their posts are by the same small group of malcontents. In many cases the threads are opened
and commented on by the same person. They can't last long so look for them on this board when they are done playing with that site.
That would be OK with me if they can leave personalities out of their opinions, lets talk about Baja instead of each other.
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JESSE
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Bajanomad.com
has improved a lot, it just to be kind of lonely here before, not anymore.
[Edited on 11-17-2003 by JESSE]
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Ski Baja
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Isn't that "juiced" ?
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Packoderm
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If it gets any worse, I'll never be able to get any work done. I couldn't wait to hear what was going to be said next. This can't be good, but I can't
help but look.
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Alexa.com stats
Traffic Rank for bajanomad.com: 1,699,702
Traffic Rank for baja.net: 501,438
Ah, the perils of the TKG.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
What is Traffic Rank?
The traffic rank is based on three months of aggregated historical traffic data from millions of Alexa Toolbar users and is a combined measure of page
views and users (reach). Higher traffic is represented by a lower number.
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Another observation
Check out this board's stats page: http://forums.bajanomad.com/stats.php?action=view and ask yourself what this board is about. Baja? I think not.
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Packoderm
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If you look on "Today's Posts," and if you count, you will find that out of 36 threads, 27 of them pertain directly to Baja. That's good enough for
me.
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Desertbull
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Boys...
It ceases to amaze me that although you complain notoriously about our behavior at "thaaaat place" as referred to by DavidK, you still visit us and
look over the fence to see "what's happening."
If you don't like it, then don't visit. It's simple as that. Your facts are sincerely incorrect. You bark about things that you have no idea about and
are without foundation. Again, some of your posts are complete fiction. This is no novel gentlemen, this is real life stuff.... We don't hide behind
19" computer monitors all day and night....we are truly living the life.
The comments made by posters at Baja.net are appropriate for the "kooks" that peek over the fence at Baja.net. We don't cater to anyone person or
business. It's the way we live and how we are...if you don't like it, stay away. As said previously, WE COULD NOT LIVE IN GATED COMMUNITIES BECAUSE
WE DON'T FIT...if you do great, but we don't!!!
Nonetheless, there is not enough drama to keep you busy here, so you feel that you need to delve into our lives. We want you to visit, provide
knowledge and add to the mystic of Baja and this lifestyle, but if you come to play, don't get your feelings hurt when someone doesn't treat you
right. We have a saying at Baja.net that says, "Everything is okay until someone get's their feelings hurt...right?" For pete's sake, Live life and
Face your Fears Amigos. With all the drama you guys are like old women sipping the wine all night long, while popping off on the computer...
Here at Nomad, and at the old Amigos, as well elsewhere, some people partake in situations and behave in manners that I don't necessarily agree with
in their own lives, and yet I don't become involved in their personal business, that's there business. And if you don't like it, stay away and be
happy somewhere else. We never asked you to come over and play anyway...especially knowing that you think one way and we think another way.
You guys/gals act like the neighbor that has no life. You know the one. The guy/gal or retired elder who is always home and tends to think they are
the "Block Captain" who is large and in charge. They watch everyone come and go all the time with their RV's, toys, boats etc...but they never leave
their home. And soon enough they start to feel jealous and envious of all their neighbors who are living life to the fullest...Man, we don't need any
neighbors like that...we got a big party going most of the time at Baja.net, we are on the run heading to the desert, the river, the mountains or Baja
and we don't have time for that Nosey neighbor to be in our mix as we yet prepare for another trip and adventure.
Juan said. "That would be OK with me if they can leave personalities out of their opinions, lets talk about Baja instead of each other."
Juan...Baja.net was developed because that's our lifestyle and the real way we chose to live, not just some Baja electronic fantasy land that many
seem to live in. We REALLY travel and adventure on a regular basis in Baja. Many regulars reside in Baja or have home they visit regularly in Baja. We
have chosen to live this lifestyle, not just fake it for a few days here and there. So it's not just our opinion, it's our life. And we have chosen
that lifestyle, if you don't like it, then don't participate with us. Plain and simple.
BajaBus said, "way too aggressive. Seems like a bunch of junior high kids drunk on gasoline fumes and booze. Very appropriate that most are in Las
Vegas."
Here's ********************* commenting on something he has no factual basis of. Based on known facts, I only know of two posters who reside in Las
Vegas. BajaBlackie and Minnow....I have no idea of any other posters who live in Vegas. So where does ************* come off by making comments
without basis. Typical, ranting before you think.
Jeff J said, " Like all good lively parties, the neighbors (whose party was dull) got jealous and tried to crash the fun party to spoil it for
everyone else!"
I will tell you that our party has NEVER been dull, if so, ask Mike H. if he thinks we throw dull parties. We are not jealous and we would not try to
crash the fun party...no reason to do so since we have our own constant party running full steam ahead. We have a huge party planned for the next few
5 days in Baja as we enjoy the toughest off-road race in the world, the Baja 1000. We understand that the off-road community is not for all, just as
the things you do is not for all of us...that's why we have individual separate boards..that's why generally MOST of us stay at home and play in our
own backyard.
In response to David K *********** and our continued response to his posts, is this. Plain and simple, many of us, including people here have merely
asked him to take the negativity off the boards and to personal email. In many documented occasions, he agrees to do so, only to post it on a "Baja"
board again. Simply, that kind of information does not belong in public or be spread via public BBS. And then to top it all off, he claims, again on
many documented occasions, to be a victim...
Too many people are very tired of his antics...it's truly widespread and we at Baja.net just don't put up with it anymore. So as he has continued, we
continue...and truly it's just for fun. As he's been told many times by many people..."Let it go and they'll let it go." Go figure....we have better
things to do than to create Animated GIF's of David K...but they are humerous.
In closing, Baja.net is more than just a BBS for many of us...it's our way to stay connected to those who willingly participate in our type of
lifestyle.
As you may know, one of our Los Hermanos Locos crew was killed in an off-road motorcycle accident a few weeks ago as he prepared for the race of his
life at the Baja 1000. He won the Baja 500 and the BajaMex 300 during this season and was slated to be conquer the Baja 1000. However, while Facing
his fears and Living Life he succumbed to injuries sustained in the accident. It's part of life, we live that lifestyle and that's the way we are. We
buried our hero last Monday, but he lived life they way he wanted to and not some left wing extremist or some political N-zi who has other agendas.
This guy was a hero. We don't hold anyone to hero status and posters, such as Minnow is not seen as a hero. He's merely tired of the B.S. and the lies
associated with certain people that frequent this board. He's not the only one that thinks that, some of us gave up altogether. He doesn't need to
prove his meddle with us, we've spent many hours with him in personable conversation and he fits the Baja.net lifestyle. You either fit or don't...and
if you do, then you tend to jump into the fun, friendships and sorrows we all share.
We don't have to live by any rules of what is inappropriate or not. Nor do we care what you think is inappropriate or not...it's the way we
live...it's not mainstream, but who is anyone here to condemn us for our lifestyle...if you want to live kooped up in your room hiding behind a
monitor, so be it, but don't blame us because we are living the times of our lives and not afraid to face reality in the face.
Worry about what you have here first and what your trying to build. We are not in competition with you or anyone else...we just are living the
Baja.net lifestyle...if you wake up and want to venture to the "dark side," evaluate if you have what it takes not to get your feelings hurt just in
case someone relates something negative towards you...you only live life once...hang on cuz if you're at Baja.net it'll be a wild ride!!!!!
Desertbull
[Edited on 11-19-2003 by BajaNomad]
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Ski Baja
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Infiltration
Hey DB, welcome to the other side! Actually, both boards have a lot to offer which is what I tell most everyone that isn't aware of the message
boards.
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Desertbull
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Been here done that...
Oh, I've been here even posted early on...but found out it wasn't for me...so I play elsewhere.
Thanks for the welcome...and we'll need to guzzle some race fuel (Tequila) soon.
DB
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Mike Humfreville
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Yes, DB, you guys throw great parties.
As for my peeking over your fence, are you discouraging my visits? I visit baja.net frequently, have, as you know, registered to post there, and
enjoy some of the information baja.net contains. Should I feel bad because I read and don't post?
I hate the garbage that comes across bajanomad when folks go on a rip. Should I enjoy baja.net because they support antigonism with icons of weapons,
and of dudes taking dumps?
No one that I know of has criticized your stuff at baja.net. Some folks just think it's a little too much for some tastes. No one is jumping to tell
you that you shouldn't do whatever you want. DO IT!
As I've already said, many of us that post and read nomads have friends at baja.net. I'm GLAD you have a board that is set up the way you like it. I
have also read significant chatter at baja.net slam dunking nomads in general and I think you should be appreciative that nomads exists so you don't
get all the traffic from folks you don't like.
I don't even want to know where all your hatred comes from with your implications that nomads are block monitors. What business is that of yours?
There's plenty of room for several Baja boards. Go for it. Now fire up that damned blender and lets get on with life.
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You and baja.net spend so much energy on DavidK, why is that? If you have your own life of adventure that keeps you so busy... why is what Davidk does
such a concern? I also noticed bajabus and a couple others disrespected on your board. I never have seen either of them on baja.net, either. Bajabus
and DavidK are maybe too political, but when it comes to Baja stories and details they both have been a great resource. If your goal is to chase
these or other Baja writers off this board by your actions, your popularity can only drop further.... just my dos centavos Sr. Toro del Desierto, paz
por favor.
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Desertbull
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Hiding behind a 19
Anyone who post anonymously doesn't deserve the respect of any reply. If you desire to chat in private...email me at Desertbull@Off-Road.com because
other than that...I don't reply to BS posted by those who hide behind a screen...get real!
Mike, we could debate our positions forever. Honestly, I don't have the time to go back and forth as I'm swamped in my latest business venture along
with the Baja1000 and all...I'll be at Stevo's at Gecko over Christmas/New Years...we can spend a few hours over some cerveza and get down to serious
discussion if you like...but until then...my interpretation of one instance of acting as Block Captain is your post:
"I think that lately there have been two specific posters here that are doing everything they can to ingratiate themselves with baja.net folks and
trying to look like heroes to them at the expense of readers here. Their efforts are fed by baja.nets hatred of several individuals that have chosen
to post here. Baja.net now frequently refers to the nomads collectively as "kooks."
You said a lot in this statement...none of which I believe, in my opinion, you know what the heck you're talking about...heroes???, hatred of several
individuals...trust me...we got no hatred...cuz hatred is really a bad thing and most of anything there is Dibble. You know that....
However, this is a classic example of The Block Captain...telling everyone what is going on at Baja.net in the perception of Mike
Humfreville....Freakin' hell Mike...you're two main points are pure fiction...and I'll discuss it all with you in detail...but let's do it away from
the public cuz half of these people have no idea what we are even talking about and it's friggin' boring to them...the other half are sitting back
amused....We should charge them a buck a piece to read our positions and then see who really cares...no one!
fic-tion - an imaginary statement, story, etc. 2. any literary work with imaginary characters and events, as a novel, play, etc.
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Mike Humfreville
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DB
We can certainly liven up the campfires at Gecko! See you there and please ease up.
[Edited on 11-18-2003 by Mike Humfreville]
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Mike Humfreville
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Once Again Bull
Y'know, I just read more fully what you wrote, wanting to end this mess and see that you can't contain yourself from digging at me personally. If you
think I am writing fiction, be specific. What stories have I posted that were fiction?
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