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frizkie
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Anyone wanna lift down Baja??
I'm not sure if this is the right place for this... I am looking for someone to share expenses with me in my truck and camper for a trip down Baja. I
plan to leave Victoria BC about the beginning of Jan (or?)... Could pick up or meet someone along the way in Canada or US. Must like dogs, as I take
along my little Baja Perros. I have done the trip a bunch of times. Might be fun to have someone share the adventure. I will be stopping (and all
this is open to change) at La Bufadora(La Jolla), San Quintin(Rancho Cielito Lindo), Mulege (El Requeson), Agua Verde, La PAz (Tecolote) and so on,
probably down to Los Cabos (El Tule) and then up the East Cape to Los Frailles(to catch a Dorado or two) then onto Cabo Pulmo for a few days or more.
Do a litte fishin' (Have boat), do a little diving and snorkeling, do alot of exploring etc. Male or female...I am of the latter gender. must like
Carmelita's Tomales I'd prefer a non-smoker
[Edited on 11-21-2003 by frizkie]
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David K
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That sounds like a great trip! Every place you named as a stop is a winner in my book! I hope you find a rider...
Have fun driving down 'the' Baja, eh!
[Edited on 11-19-2003 by David K]
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frizkie
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Drivin down the Baja
Thanx David. I love your site with the pictures posted. Kool of you to take the time to do that!! Thanx alot...and if you hear of anyone needing a
lift lemme know.
By the way we don't say "EH!!" on the West Coast of Canada. Giggle..Ya crazy GRINGO Did you know that Canadians are not refered to as gringos in
Baja? Only you Yanks have the privilege of that one. Tee! Hee!
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Ski Baja
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Eh!
Atta girl Friz ! Dogs eh ? Don't need a ride but sounds like you may be a fun one to run into somewhere along the way.
It's time for a return to Addams Family values!
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David K
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Thanks for the kind words... you're not a hoser, eh?
What you West Canadians do say is 'THE' Baja... as in "driving down the Baja"... it's cool, but I know it bugs some people...
Gringo is definately for us yanks... Some say it comes from the song sung my our marines during the Mexican War*: "Green Grow the Rushes, O"... 'Green
Grow'... 
* Known as the 'American Invasion', in Mexico.
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frizkie
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Oooooops!! Gotta watch that!!
Well, David, then I'd better be careful with "THE" Baja. Don't wanna bug some people..Tee!! Hee!! Thanx for that tip.
And SKi....That picture of you on skis, could you tell me where it was taken exactly? I heard, a few years ago, of someone doing a bit of a ski
somewhere in Baja. I am an avid skier and an ex-instructor from Whistler ... I would be ecstatic if I could ever get a picture of myself with my ski
gear on and in snow while in "the" (Oooops!! Oh My God!! Typo!! Typo!!) I mean I while in Baja. That would be the best of all worlds!!
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yakfish
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dont forget
to stop at Cabo Pulmo. we drove down to LaPaz. last July stopped at all the places you mentioned and MagBay too. Then drove to Cabo San Lucas
couldnt get out fast enough. The place we liked the most was Cabo Pulmo camped on the beach south end I cant remember the name of the beach. there is
a sign at the turn off about a mile south of town. best snorkeling, coral reef right there 30 yards from shore runs for about a mile and a half
along the beach. " Unbelievable" have fun & Drive safe
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tjgringo
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David:::
you mentioned a variation of one of the two most popular "explanations" for the
origin of the word GRINGO. You wrote: "Gringo is definately for us yanks... Some say it comes from the song sung my our marines during the Mexican
War*: "Green Grow the Rushes, O"... 'Green Grow'... " THIS Explanation (WHICH IS INCORRECT,  incidentally, see below) has two other variations I have heard of, "green coat" and "green go" referring to either Texas ranger or U.S.
army coats, or commands shouted out while soldiers marched in green uniforms. Time placement in these green stories is usually the war in 1846-1848,
the chasing after Pancho Villa in 1915(?), or the bombardment and occupation of Veracruz in 1914(?) watch out I am quoting those dates from Memory
which is ALWAYS dangerous 
PERSONALLY I much prefer your mentioned version of green grow the rushes, o... it is Magnificently Poetic....
UNFORTUNATELY the word "gringo" already had existed for a hundred years or more before the U.S. invasion in 1846, and was even published in a Spanish
dictionary of the 1700s, according to authorities who have searched for it in old books etc., and then been quoted on http://www.snopes.com/language/stories/gringo.htm, http://ask.yahoo.com/ask/20000821.html, http://www.marrder.com/htw/jan97/editorial.htm
sorry
But of course this does not mean the US soldiers did not sing that song, oh no, they probably did sing the song, and maybe even some of THEM believed
that was why the Mexicans called them gringos, eh?
And just as much of course, the story about green grow or green go or green coat will NEVER die... it is already a blurban legend (I just now made up
the word, Bluban heh heh...
behold the birth of another legend.......
thanks you to
oh... yeh....
from GRIEGO for people who cannot speak the language and are foreigners
it's all greek to me
like that
whazamatta? doncha think words get respelled by da' peoples? oh yeh. griego can E.Z.ly change to gringo
varrio barrio vato bato
Chevy Suburban is a Very SuperVan hehehehe
okei bai
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Debra
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David.....
you might also want to know that Northwesteners are not refered to as "Yanks" that is reserved for Northeners east of the Mississippi.
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frizkie
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Debra
Don't blame David for the "Yanks" remark that was me, Frizkie, the "Canuck" And I realize Northwesterners are not really "Yanks" ...I just didn't
know how to spell "Confederates" Tee! Hee! Anyways, they're both pretty special in my books...especially the Baja bound ones.
The origins of the term Gringo is very interesting...Thanx for that guys!!
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Neal Cox
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Interesting post, and at the risk of offending an new member (frizkie), I live in the extreme NW corner of the good old USA and in my first hand
experience, West Coast Canadians are very liberal in their use of the term "eh", pronounced as a long "a". Having said that, I don't know what
difference it makes as we all have regional and cultural idioms we use. Right now I wish I was in "the Baja".
Cheers
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Debra
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Frizkie.....
Quote from David "Gringo is definately for us Yanks"
I had to razz him, (he's a pal) I'll wait until I get to know your before I tease you. Have a great trip!
BTW, David check your spelling of definitely....
[Edited on 11-21-2003 by Debra]
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frizkie
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Yakfish
Yes, Thanx for mentioning Cabo Pulmo. I think I know the beach you mean. Is it the last road on the left as you're heading towards LosFrailles from
Cabo Pulmo? And you drive in and pass the little rancho on the left just before you hit the beach?? When you're standing on the beach you are
actually looking up the shoreline towards Cabo Pulmo and the sand banks are on your left? I love that spot..hear there's a few langosta around there
too. Just to observe of course Yes I will definitely spend a few days there as
well. And then on to "Mayor Vern's Camp", Los Frailles. Gotta git' me another Dorado this year. Will we see ya there?
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bajalera
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Hey, Debra, I'm from Whidbey Island (practically your neighbor), but didn't know I wasn't a Yank. What are we, then? Puget Sounders? Don't like the
sound of that!
\"Very few things happen at the right time, and the rest never happen at all. The conscientious historian will correct these defects.\" -
Mark Twain
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daveB
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Eh, Frizkie - isn't Los Frailles great, or what?
We miss it a lot, visited a few times but not for three years. I think the well has been taken out by huricanes at least twice since then. Did you
ever meet Don Raphael, sadly gone now for more than three years, at the Ranchero? What a great dinner they could provide, with Big Verne doing the
arrangements in camp. And we always came back home with the Ranch's honey - simply out of this world. Have a good trip, and happy trails!
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frizkie
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Wellll Dave, that's a deep subject
Actually the well was flowing just fine last January..mucho agua. Not drinkable by my standards but apparently some people were drinking it, and it
was fine for the ol' shower bag.
Don Raphael ? No, I am sad to say that I never got to know him. I met him once though, about four years ago and would've liked to have gotten to
know him better. He sure had a bright twinkle in his eye, didn't he?
Yes, "Big Verne" is still ruling the roost there, a little too heavy handed for my liking.. but to each his own. When someone threatens to "BLOW" my
little Mexican perros away just because he has had a previous bad experience with irresponsible dog owners.... to me it kinda taints
the atmosphere somewhat.
At least the "vaca basura" was still roaming around freely. With my plastic garbage bag elegantly hanging off his horn for awhile.
Caught my first Dorado there last year tho' so I'll be back for another this year. And just maybe the Mayor will give me another ride on HIS quad...
if I'm a good little girl and keep Julio, Jose and PePe tied up on a five foot chain with muzzels on so they don't make a peep!! Tee!! Hee!! We'll
see.
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Bajalera
Yep......seens that we neighibors.......I'm at a loss for a "Name" LOL! seems I'm at a loss..........How about., nice to meet you?
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gil
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baja trip
What dates in January are you thinking of going?? I lived down in La Paz 7 years, love playa tecolote, todos, barrilles, never been to san quentin or
requeson, hmm.. curious about those two. check out the islands in the sea of cortez, isla espiritu santo especially, there is no place like it in the
universe. I plan to go next year but only for a 4 days to the islands. i hope you find someone to go with. 
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frizkie
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Actually Gil
I sent you a U2U when I meant to post my reply so, whatever, here goes...again.... I plan on leaving around January 4th but that's not written in
stone. I will return somewhere near the end of March.
I will be spending alot of my time in the LaPaz area, mostly camped out at Tecolote. One of my main destinations this year is Isla
Espiritu Santo. I have a little Porta-Bote and a good little Honda 4 Stroke that should be able to transport me there. Maybe I'll take along the
tent and spend a day or two over there. I recently read that you have to check in and register at an office in LaPaz where they give you a bracelet
to wear as ID when you go on the island. So I'll have to do that I suppose. Thanx for your reply, you've inspired me even more. That's what these
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share ride
how long is your trip planning to be? My friend and I are flying into San Diego on the first. We fly back soon after but would love a ride if it is
feasible. Let me know. Matt
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