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[*] posted on 6-10-2006 at 02:26 PM
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Didn't I read somewhere in Baja Sur they grow Sugar Cane? I think Todos Santos did years ago, but are there others?




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[*] posted on 6-10-2006 at 02:53 PM


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Although I have never seen it growing, I have seen it in the grocery stores from time to time. Also in the municipal mercado so my guess is that it is grown around here.
I guess that is a definite maybe.




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[*] posted on 6-10-2006 at 04:06 PM


I don't think so. It comes from the mainland. there are no places to proses it here in Baja sur.



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[*] posted on 6-10-2006 at 04:10 PM


Not enough rain or water for sugarcane and the winters are too harsh.



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[*] posted on 6-10-2006 at 05:10 PM


Well Al is right about Todos Santos...it was their main industry at one time. I am pretty sure that what I have seen was grown locally. It was just the cane...unprocessed. I will ask around.



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[*] posted on 6-10-2006 at 05:46 PM


Thanks Judy!
Its of great interest and was thinking bamboo is a cane without the sugar so maybe if they grow Bamboo maybe they grow Sugar cane.
I think a new industry may come knocking.




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[*] posted on 6-10-2006 at 06:00 PM


Lots of little ranchos in the Lagunas grow sugar cane just for the fun of it, for the kids, for sugar for the table. Grows great in the mountains around here.
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[*] posted on 6-10-2006 at 06:51 PM


we get it in the stores here all the time but it is from Mexico



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[*] posted on 6-10-2006 at 07:08 PM


Isn't that was it was all about at the "Old Mill"? when I was there in March I swear I could still smell sugar in the walls......yes I know, the question was about Baja Sur............
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Lots of little ranchos in the Lagunas grow sugar cane just for the fun of it, for the kids, for sugar for the table. Grows great in the mountains around here.

If this area produces sugar cane for fun can we think the general area can sustain production? New Resource?




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[*] posted on 6-10-2006 at 08:18 PM
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Todos Santos had a big cane pressing sugar plant. It was still there in the early 70s but out of production.

The Old Mill in San Quintin was about wheat, not sugar.
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[*] posted on 6-10-2006 at 11:32 PM


there is not enough water. that is why thy don't grow it anymore.



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[*] posted on 6-11-2006 at 06:09 AM


There are old relic mills in small villages and ranchos in the southland. Some areas still have tons of water (Santiago por ejemplo). Maybe there's not much market now that sugar from beets and other sources is so cheap.
I think I remember seeing a Sweet and Low mill (now defunct) in one of the little pueblos (wasn't mule or burro driven, just a little hand crank thing cause the plants are real small).
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[*] posted on 6-11-2006 at 06:35 AM


Mexico has been restricting imports of sweeteners, like corn syrup,from the US tp protect its sugar cane industry. Last I heard the issue had been taken to the World Trade Organization and it looked like Mexico would have to open its markets to the cheaper imported sweeteners. Especially for use in soft drinks.

It does not look like the sugar cane industry is ripe for any expansion.




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[*] posted on 6-11-2006 at 06:58 AM


So much for the eficacy and/or power of APEC
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[*] posted on 6-11-2006 at 10:46 AM


My interest is far beyond sweeteners. I wanted to know if there is some capacity and now I will research the possibility of converting cane sugar to E85 ethanol. If I able to determine how much capacity is enough to interest an ethanol plant it might help Baja.



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[*] posted on 6-11-2006 at 11:59 AM


then you will need to convince Pemex that they will need to construct a new refinery so they can make the special blend of gasoline that it is mixed with and to put in more tanks and pumps at all stations. this will be hard to do sense Mexico has no fuel shortage and they are in the business of selling oil.



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then you will need to convince Pemex that they will need to construct a new refinery so they can make the special blend of gasoline that it is mixed with and to put in more tanks and pumps at all stations. this will be hard to do sense Mexico has no fuel shortage and they are in the business of selling oil.

Your right Bruce, Mexico has no need for ethanol, but the US is in the middle of expanding infrastructure to produce billions of gallons of ethanol from corn and admits it will not be able to meet demand and will need to import sugar cane from as far away as Brazil. I wish that I lived in Mulege' I would plant some cane to see if it would grow. How about you Bruce?




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[*] posted on 6-11-2006 at 12:53 PM


Sugar cane, If you take the road from La Paz to Los Planes and pass through at the sharp curve if you look straight ahead ther is an abandoned sugar cane refinery, the farmers in the area were suppose to start growing sugar cane they built the refinery and then gringo's from the north came in and went into parnerships with some of the farmers to grow flowers much more lucrative, others grew peppers and shipped north, others grew corn, melons etc all more money than sugar cane.



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[*] posted on 6-11-2006 at 01:05 PM


I have grown some sugar cane on my ranch and it dose quite well.



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