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PATTON
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UNIDENTIFIED BODY FOUND IN LORETO
In January 2006 the body of a young man, in his late 20s or perhaps 30, was found at El Bajo a few miles north of the town of Loreto. Photographs of
his face and identifying abdominal scars are posted at the police station in Loreto, yet no one has been able to identify him. It has been six months
since his death, and he was long-ago buried in the Loreto pante?n and forgotten. Police say he "probably died of dehydration." There is a HIGH
probability that he was one of the hundreds and hundreds of young men brought to Loreto from mainland Mexico to build Loreto Bay. The police said they
have no further investigating to do. When asked if the photo had been shown to all the construction companies, they said no. Somewhere there is a
mother, or a wife and children, far away, awaiting paychecks and the eventual return of their loved one. Sadly, this young man made a one-way trip to
Loreto. Sadly his family must think he simply abandoned them.
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villadelfin
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PATTON, what are you trying to say?
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jerry
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villadelfin i didnt detect patton studdering?? dont kill the messenger
jerry and judi
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TMW
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I read it as saying the cops were too lazy to investigate who he is, where he's from and/or where he worked if at all. Died of thirst, case closed.
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by TW
I read it as saying the cops were too lazy to investigate who he is, where he's from and/or where he worked if at all. Died of thirst, case closed.
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that is kind of what I got out of it also.
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burro bob
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What's so hard to understand about what this message?
The last sentence tells you why it was posted.
burro bob
[Edited on 6-15-2006 by burro bob]
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villadelfin
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I will rephrase my original question: PATTON, what is the significance of this post?
The man died a year ago.
Police concluded the death was accidental.
Am I, as a reader of your posting, to become emotionally involved? Should I curse development in Loreto bay that lured this man to his death? Do you
question the police findings?
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Stickers
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Here in So Cal we have had many deaths in the construction industry of transient workers (illegals). They were decent hard working and honorable men.
They came here asking for nothing except a days wage to send home to a family in an impoverished village. It is always a great tragedy when this
happens. We can only hope that their families are notified.
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noproblemo2
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Slavery of our olden days?
There is a HIGH probability that he was one of the hundreds and hundreds of young men brought to Loreto from mainland Mexico to build Loreto Bay. This
sadly sounds of our olden days of slavery here in the US, with hundreds of slaves being brought here and sold... Very sad
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villadelfin
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Bringing myself up to speed
http://forums.bajanomad.com/viewthread.php?tid=15432&pag...
I just spent the last three hours reading this thread because I wanted to educate myself on the Loreto Bay project. Okay, so now I get it.
But I still don't understand why PATTON made his/her post, and similar to "friend of Baja" why the original thread poster has sniped and moved on.
PATTON? PA TTON, where are you?
[Edited on 6-16-2006 by villadelfin]
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longlegsinlapaz
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I'd imagine that Patton posted this originally because he's got compassion & cares that there is a family out there somewhere that has no idea of
what happened to their son/husband/father/brother. The fact that the cause of death was established does not, nor should, in my mind, mean the case
should be closed. This is a country that reveres their dead. In my humble opinion, the police should have shown his picture around to construction
companies & the workers to see if anyone could identify him and inform his family rather than bury his as a Juan Doe. There IS someone somewhere
who cares!
Patton cared enough to post this as his FIRST post & and he gets a bunch of flack! Kudos to noproblemo2, Stickers, burro bob, Bruce & Jerry
for speaking up in understanding of this post.
Occasionally there are threads about "lurkers", people who lurk without posting, or post very infrequesntly...the negative comments in this thread are
a prime example of why people lurk. Not everyone has big brass balls, not everyone feels the idea of a good time is to knowingly place their neck on
the verbal chopping block of some of the less considerate people on this site. There are a LOT of thoughtful & considerate people on this
site...that's my observation from a lurkers perspective, because I only personally know one poster! It's one thing for the "old-timers" to harrangue
other "old-timers" (even I can identify those instances); it's a whole nuther thing to harrangue a first-time poster who gives a damn about humanity.
 A few of you are SO FRIGGIN THOUGHTLESS!!
Maybe some of us need a refresher course in the Golden Rule. Put yourself in this position, wouldn't YOU hope that YOUR family would be notified if
it was YOUR body that was found?
Right after the anticipated onslaught of crap, I'll undoubtedly be returning to the anonymous relative safety of the lurker mode!
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Stickers
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Go girl !!!
Thank you Longlegs, well said.
I am sure most Nomad forum readers and posters agree with your comments. Intimidation only diminishes what this forum can ultimately accomplish and
I am sure that is not what Doug (Ultimate Nomad), wanted when he went to all the trouble to put it together.
Living in Baja you have the experience that we all seek and want you to share with us.
Please do not lurk it would be a waste.
Rick
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MrBillM
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Bodies
For years my wife and I have discussed what we would do if we were to run across a dead body in the Baja desert. One thing we are completely in
agreement on. Just keep Driving.
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vandenberg
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
For years my wife and I have discussed what we would do if we were to run across a dead body in the Baja desert. One thing we are completely in
agreement on. Just keep Driving. |
We wouldn't expect anything else from you.
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MrBillM
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No wish to be involved with Mexican Law Enforcement.
That's really the primary reason, but so what. Say you run across a body. Nothing you can do is going to help them. They're still going to be dead
and you're going to be stuck trying to work your way through the system. Not Me !
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MrBillM
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Hmm
Now, that's a thought. I guess that it would depend upon the appearance AND age of the corpse. If it looked like there could be a chance of picking
up a decent payday, well, maybe.
Then again, there's that age thing. There's nothing quite like the smell of a dead body that's aged a little. When I was working down in Hemet and
renting an apartment down there, I came in from YV one monday a.m. and when I got out of my truck, I could smell that unmistakeable aroma coming from
the end apartment. I went in and called the landlord to tell him the tenant had died and to bring a mask.
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| Quote: | .
. When I was working down in Hemet and renting an apartment down there, I came in from YV one monday a.m. and when I got out of my truck, I could
smell that unmistakeable aroma coming from the end apartment. I went in and called the landlord to tell him the tenant had died and to bring a mask.
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You, renting an apartment? And here I was always under the impression that you were American nobility, living like somewhere in Hearst Castle. Wonders
never seeze.
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Debra
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Well said "longlegs"! and welcome to Nomads.
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
That's really the primary reason, but so what. Say you run across a body. Nothing you can do is going to help them. They're still going to be dead
and you're going to be stuck trying to work your way through the system. Not Me ! |
if I came across your dead body I would think about your poor family and report it as soon as possible.
Bruce R Leech
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MrBillM
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Well, I do consider myself a Noble person, but....
I (was) just another worker bee, albeit at a fairly good wage.
I realize that you're being sarcastic, but many of the people working with me thought I was being extravagant to rent an apartment only 60 miles one
way from my home simply to avoid the one-hour drive each way. Luckily, the job paid well enough for me to indulge myself, especially since I was able
to post enough OT (on paper, anyway) to pay for the apartment. When I worked for GTE in Palm Springs I got so fed up with the 80 mile roundtrip each
day, I swore I'd never do it again so I rented an apartment that was 5 minutes from the work location. Money WELL spent, even with the occasional
Dead Body.
[Edited on 6-17-2006 by MrBillM]
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