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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 06:30 PM
orca !


taken on the way in from a stellar day of dorado fishing, these orcas seemed to take an interest in that new diaz panga also. pics taken right off conception point.

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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 06:32 PM
another


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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 06:33 PM
and another


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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 06:34 PM
same


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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 06:34 PM
last one


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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 06:36 PM


Where did you see them Marv?



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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 06:39 PM
its there now


sorry, you were looking at the pics while i was editing



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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 06:40 PM


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Where did you see them Marv?


In Marv's first post in this thread: "...taken right of conception point..."




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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 06:42 PM
WELL, I LEARNED SOMETHING TODAY.


orcas in the SOC! who knew?:?:



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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 07:20 PM


Marv I am almost certain those are Dahl's porpoises, not orcas, but I will await a positive id from one of our marine biologists.
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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 07:36 PM


I'm pretty sure I've seen orcas here in Loreto several times
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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 07:37 PM
I certainly hope you are right, Ken------


I, for one, am not comfortable snorkleing with ORCA's, which would severly limit my enjoyment of the Sea of Cortez.
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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 07:49 PM


Orcas are not that unusual in the Sea of Cortez. I have seen them as far north as Punta San Francisquito, off of Loreto, and in La Paz Bay. I just don't think the animals marv photographed are orcas. Shape of the dorsal fin and the markings suggest Dahl's porpoise but I am not 100% sure. Barry A there has never been a documented attack on a human by an Orca. I have been in the water close to them several times (Galapagos, Solomon Islands) and it is a magnificent experience.
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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 08:09 PM
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Marv I am almost certain those are Dahl's porpoises, not orcas, but I will await a positive id from one of our marine biologists.


well im no marine biologist either, but for the record the pics do not really show their true size. i dont know how big a "dahl's porpoise" gets (never even heard of such an animal) but, i would estimate the length of these @ 12 to 15 feet long and the dorsal on the male in the pod was about 2 to 3 feet tall.

i just looked up Dahl's porpoises on the net and after seeing pictures of them i have to say, i dont think so. these were way to big to be a Dahl's porpoise. take a close look at the picture taken behind the boat where the mammal (for argument sake) is totally under water. the boat kinda gives it some perspective. but, i have been wrong before, ask my wife if you dont believe me ! :yes::yes::yes:




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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 08:20 PM


marv I think Dahl's porpoise only get to about 8 feet in length so if the animals you saw were 12-15 ft long they must have been orcas. Dahl's porpoise are fairly common off of southern california. The thing that bothered me about your orca id was mostly the fourth photo (with the pair in synch). The coloring of the dorsal fin in the outboard animal is very typical of Dahl's porpoise with the white trailing edge. That almost never happens in orcas. Didn't mean to ruffle any feathers, but I have seen both species topside many times and have also been in the water with both several times and these just didn't look to me like orcas.
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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 09:31 PM
Kayaking with Orcas


Check out this video !!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n23_IsU4Uic
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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 10:03 PM
Thanks Ken, and others---------


I made a bad assumption-------I know (?) they take seals, and just assumed that they might take "us" too. It is good to know that there is no documented record of this happening.

I really appreciate being educated. I was totally unaware that Orcas came into the Gulf---------but now I won't worry about it. :yes:
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[*] posted on 8-14-2006 at 10:26 PM
Orcas


I have seen both from the boat diving south of Mulege. The real thing, Orcas, and the other ones I thought were orcas but the mexican guide said they were somthing similar. False killer whales I have heard them called. The mexicans seem frightened by both.
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[*] posted on 8-15-2006 at 12:14 AM
That last one


looks like the Dahls' Porpoise. If you examine the fluke or dorsal fin, you will notice it makes quite a distinct arch backwards. Orcas typically have a fin that is aligned in a more vertical manner. This does not mean that they are not Orcas. The second photo looks more like the fin of an Orca tho????
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[*] posted on 8-15-2006 at 04:47 AM


Ken - i have been told that the SOC can be host to all the whale species that exist - all have been spotted at one time or another. true? if so.....i want to see a blue sometime!!

and a sperm.




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