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edm1
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Baja Travel - caravaning nomads
Would there be a wide interest in a free "matching service" to arrange Baja caravans, e.g. from San Diego into Baja and back. This of course would
meet a new "need" brought about by the recent Baja highway safety incidents.
Conceivably, it would go like this. I'll put up a free website/page where:
1. anyone interested would be able to create a "Baja trip window" (for example: Sept 9-16 2006, Farthest destination: Puertecitos).
2. Then anyone interested in a created trip window would be able to "enlist" in that trip (with no obligation, just a show of interest) with email
address
3. The creator of the trip window would then contact the list of interested people for the purpose of reaching a consensus as to routes, etc. etc.
What do you guys think? Suggestions? Issues? Concerns?
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BajaNomad
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For something that simple, I would think you could just use the Baja Travel Companions forum here.
If you had some more complex thoughts on putting something like this together (and I'm not sure it would be worthwhile for either the short or long
term), then maybe something that was out on its own might be the better choice.
Just my $.02.
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edm1
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Doug
The added feature (that the travel companion forum does not have) would be that the webpage would show the created trips and the number of people who
already enlisted. For example, if I wanted to caravan to Baja in September and I see that sept 23-30 already has a couple vehicles listed, I would
enlist in that trip, instead of creating say a new 9/9-16,2006 trip AND WAIT till someone else enlists.
In the travel companion forum, one posts and wait with uncertainty if someone responds in the affirmative.
Anyway, just a thought.
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shari
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As I suggested in an earlier post, this is something that it seems we need to get organized. Now, I don't have alot of time for alot of internet stuff
and I often just limit my time online to check mail and Nomad Today's Posts so I personally would like to see this as part of this particular Forum if
possible. If not, I shall certainly participate in whatever goes....Having said that, I need to get to the airport on Sept.22 so would like to travel
from say Guerrero Negro to TJ on the 20 or 21st. Anyone going north then? I'm happy I have Mexican plates for sure! Anyone know if Larry and
Raquel(bless her soul) had mexican plates?
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Bajame
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Planning to leave right after Labor Day heading to San Ignacio. Sure would like to caravan down with someone. Let me know if your heading down that
way.
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fandango
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i was planning on a run to bahia de los angeles from ensenada on 23 september, returning a few days later. i don't feel comfortable making that drive
now without a few friends, maybe not even then. i think a serious message was sent to us with raquel and larrys incident. now feel compelled to
caravan back to the US with friends who are visiting. i would definately participate in a forum to caravan for different trips. and drink,er, suffer
in silence if i had to extend my stay by a week to match the plans of my caravan companions.
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Al G
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Doug, can we have a sticky at the top of today's post? Something like "Crossing dates"
Albert G
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BajaNomad
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Al,
Cannot sticky the posts on the today's posts page - that can only be done in the specific forums.
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jimgrms
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I was advised at one time to just wait somewhere safe on hwy 1 for a few gringos to pass and just follow and get a cb and communicate lots of
travelers have them but it is a very good idea also carry a can of bear pepper spray
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Bedman
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Caravan-2 vehicle-3 vehicle-4 vehicle.......whatever
Even after 40 years of travelling across the border, I'd be interested in a caravan.
Bedman "ampersan" aol.com
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surfer jim
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This is an interesting idea even without the "violence" issue.....just having other vehicle(s) traveling together would be good....
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DianaT
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Never thought we would be looking for other cars to follow, but now we might. The idea of a web-page, IMO, is good.
Diane
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kingpin
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This is a great idea! AND, a nice way to meet other Nomads. I am not so sure about advertising departure times though.
Lots of details to work out, but a great start to discussion.
[Edited on 8-25-2006 by kingpin]
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shari
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Perhaps we could U2U departure times then and just give approximate dates on this board. I'm generally not the paranoid type but...it's weird, I find
I'm even questioning the Newbies!!! I feel I can trust many of the super nomads of long standing and I like how you vouch for each other. Is there any
way we could somehow figure out a personal recommendation system...perhaps on our profiles or something like that. I always wonder what people have to
hide when they don't list their home port or anything. I would feel better about contacting someone to caravan if I knew they were OK and some other
Nomad knows them....ya cant' be too careful these days.
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If I may suggest, if you have to go thru TJ go the Free Road and stay off the Toll Road.
As I posted in another Thread, go thru Tecate and then South and in the Daytime, stay in San Quintin at the Los Ciros, depart early and travel to GN
all in Broad Daylight.
If you really want an Adventure go through Guyamas, take the Ferry across to Santa Rosalia then you will be in the Great State of Baja Sur and by Pass
the Crowded Areas of the North. It is not a long trip across Baja to the Pacific.
Skeet/Loreto
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Julie
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caravaning to Loreto
Mike and I traveled from Loreto to Rosarito last Sunday, our only complaint was there were too many trucks and cars, took 15 hours. We were sick to
hear about Larry and Rachel, friends we looked forward to seeing several times a year in Loreto.
We are planning to return in late Sept, early Oct, we are a somewhat flexible,. We reopen the Iguana Inn after a much needed vacation on the 7th of
Oct. Anyone headed down around that time, email us at iguanainn@yahoo.com maybe we can arrange a convoy.
Julie Ramos
Iguana Inn
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edm1
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Thank you all for the warm reception of the idea.
Shari, I can understand your mistrust because it's one of my concerns that need to be dealt with before such an idea can be implemented, for example:
1. Legitimacy/trustworthiness of a person you're caravaning with - what if it's a planned trip where one vehicle is in cahouts with the bad guys? How
do we get legit ID information on participants?
2. What if the bad guys are watching the trip schedules and setup an ambush? How do we "hide" the schedules and yet make it available for people to
enlist for the trips?
3. Do we trust a newbie to host a service and house trip/people's information? (I would not object to let Doug host the service, though; I'm willing
to develop the website application for him).
4. If this free service gets implemented, how does it affect the Nomad forum? its travel advertisers, will this service be competing with them?
I'm sure there are other issues that you guys can come up with. It is not paranoia, they are legit issues that need to be addressed when designing a
system. Let's keep those issues coming out, and the suggestions to deal with such issues.
And Shari, I updated my profile - this newbie is from Southern Ca, if that hepls, and I haven't been to Baja. The only thing that's keeping me from
Baja now is the safety concern raised by the recent violence.
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Al G
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HuH!!
Sounds a little paranoid to me. I know most criminals are not to bright, but I summit that no one would be so stupid to leave so much evidence to hide
for so little reward.
Let us say you want to be very careful to make people feel better.
Require:
1)People to color fax a) Passport or b) D.L. and birth cert.
To a volunteer "known" Nomad. This Nomad would email the I.D.'s (photos only) to lead Nomad.
What do you think? Can you refine it better?
[Edited on 8-26-2006 by Al G]
Albert G
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Ken Cooke
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For $99.00 you can carry a cardboard cut out of me sitting in your front seat. Trust me, noone in their right mind would bother you from TJ to Cabo
and back!
For $119 you can get two for one!
Send the money to: 
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jorgie
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Sounds good but I and many others would like a caravan site east of S D.
A number of Canada types like myself travel through Yuma and would like to pick up a caravan at the best possible crossing. I plan the first week in
November as a crossing and would be interested in meeting up with a caravan in that area .
I couldn't handle a site but would participate and spread the word.
I hope everyone takes good care and has a great day
jorgie
geo@nethop.net
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