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villadelfin
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Early Warning System?
In another thread, Al G suggested: | Quote: | | Mulege's horrible flooding will take a great deal of thought and maybe the only real answer is some kind of early warning system.
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Are there any systems in place to announce emergencies?
Sirens, church bells, flares, semafores?
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QuePasaBaja
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I am in North baja, and we dont really have issues like that here. And the best that I can say, is since you have a puter, and spend time online, make
one of your first stops every time that you log on. Make it the weather.com Then if youe see a storm comming in, even a rain storm, start making
calls, and smoke signals.
Have a Baja Day
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Cypress
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Early Warning? How 'bout 2 days notice that a hurricane is bearing down on you? That's all the warning most folks need.
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Johnny
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warning signal
maybe we could buy the fire department an 'air raid' siren. I'm sure we could find one cheap somewhere. Any one know if they would be able to
utilize one? Anyone want to help?
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Warnings ?
Not trying to be provocative or start an argument, there are a lot of people on this board living in Mulege who all had at least a two day warning
that they would likely be hit dead on. Given their numbers, it would seem that other townspeople could have been informed and I'm sure they all did
their best to do so. Perhaps they could organize some sort of volunteer advisory system with set guidelines ?
However, given human nature, it does seem unlikely that most people would evacuate given that information, especially given the unpredictability of
the track forecasts. I understand that emotion. My inclination would be to stay, but my wife would want to get out along with the dogs. What
percentage of those on this board living in Mulege evacuated ?
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Bruce R Leech
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I think you are right Bill. I don't think anyone did know it was coming. the fire dept went around and told people to leave and they did not one fine
person tried to go back and save his rig and was lost. I cant understand why people act this way I took my family and headed to high ground early on
and said to heck with the belongings. I was already gone when the fire dept. got here got my family to safety and went to work with the firemen. the
firemen literally drug one man out of his house because he wouldn't leave and in the morning his house was gone.
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villadelfin
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originally posted by Mulege | Quote: | | On Saturday night before the flood...we checked the weather forecast and tracked the hurricane...but we was so sure that it wouldn't hit us.
The flood wasn't from the hurricane or the hurricane tidal surge, but from the rain on the mountain that came down and overflowed the river,
broke the dam..which created flash flood. Nobody in the area would expect this to happen. My friend told me that four years ago there was a
hurricane in Mulege and his houses in the Oasis got flooded with 9 inches of water. He thought this time if it flood again, it would only be probably
a foot or two....but it turned out to be way more...about 20-30ft of water. All his houses were under water...all the appliances, furnitures, and
everything else in the house were ruined....luckily all his houses are still standing. |
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MrBillM
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Evacuations
An excellent example of the problem with "Early Warnings" and evacuations is that of Hurricane Ernesto. Sure that the Keys would be heavily
evacuated, the Florida State Government announced a recommended evacuation. Afterwards, there were a multitude of ANGRY complaints that people had
been mislead and evacuated from what turned out to be a heavy rain, increasing the likelihood that fewer people will heed the next "State of
Emergency".
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Skeet/Loreto
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May I refer you to my Post on 8/31/06.
Or is it that I am an "Ole Timer" who forgets how to Spell.
Experience sometimes is overlooked by the Youngsters.
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Bruce R Leech
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| Quote: | Originally posted by Skeet/Loreto
May I refer you to my Post on 8/31/06.
Or is it that I am an "Ole Timer" who forgets how to Spell.
Experience sometimes is overlooked by the Youngsters.
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spelling is important Skeet take it from me
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Skeet/Loreto
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Bruce: I tried my best to Warn people in Loreto and Mulege that the Storm track looked very much like Lisa. Glad to hear that the Kids were taken out
of the Arroyos.
Lisa verred to the West, the only thing that saved more damage in "76". Old Juan just took its time gathering Water for the dumping on Mulege.
My Heart is Happy that most of the People will return and rebuild Mulege.
God Bless them All!!
Anon The Preacher
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QuePasaBaja
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| Quote: | Originally posted by MrBillM
An excellent example of the problem with "Early Warnings" and evacuations is that of Hurricane Ernesto. Sure that the Keys would be heavily
evacuated, the Florida State Government announced a recommended evacuation. Afterwards, there were a multitude of ANGRY complaints that people had
been mislead and evacuated from what turned out to be a heavy rain, increasing the likelihood that fewer people will heed the next "State of
Emergency". |
I have a friend that lives in the keys, and he says that the storm was a joke. that even the news crews were standing in puddles to make it look worse
than it was. So you are very right, that the next storm, less people will leave, and more could get hurt.
It is just one of those things.
Have a Baja Day
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Al G
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First, you are not going to help or warn someone who was born stupid.
This should not keep you from trying to organize an alert system. the big thing now is time. If you wait to long you Will not be able to add the
responsibility to head of households.
That is where the responsibility lies and you should use the importance of the events now to make them feel important and accept the job. If you get
them now the next time they will worry about their family's safety. The fire department notify section head and he reminds the head of household the
importances of them keeping their family safe. If they agree now, they will remember.
This is a warning system, An air raid siren is something people ignore.
Albert G
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Bruce R Leech
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Wow Al G you say it like it is . I couldn't agree with you more. when you live down here in adventure country you had better keep your Head up and not
in the sand. you are responsible for you and yours.
God bless you all
Bruce R Leech
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villadelfin
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SEGOB (civil defense) announced that BCS is on blue alert because of TS Lane. If I remember correctly, the alerts are blue, green, yellow, orange and
red, in order of nearness and ferocity. Ni modo, how does everyday Jose get the news on what alert level we're on?
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The more I thought about it the less I thought it wouldn't be properly utilized. Good points Al.
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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Sharksbaja
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Larry
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All my friends know what's happening, but I run in unusual circles
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Duh!!!
of course were not personal friends but.....
this is a strange circle of friends....so to speak.
[Edited on 9-15-2006 by Sharksbaja]
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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Bruce R Leech
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Corky and Larry are you guys saying I'm strange  
Edith agrees with you
I think you might be on to something
Bruce R Leech
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Sharksbaja
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Yes Bruce all the biggest posters are a bit wierd!!! oops, what am I
sayin'??
DON\'T SQUINT! Give yer eyes a break!
Try holding down [control] key and toggle the [+ and -] keys
Viva Mulege!
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Al G
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I like weird if they drink beer and go fish.
Albert G
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